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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So all they said at HC was "HANG ON, THERE'S BOLD NEW GRAPHICS" and didn't show anything??? That's lame.
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Barker
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

is it going to be this bike?


erewrt
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Other than missing seeing other BadWebbers, I'm glad I didn't make the effort to get to the 25th Anniversary Homecoming.

I find it a vast marketing oversight to not use Homecoming as part of the central marketing effort for Buell. I can't tell you the last time I saw a Buell commercial on TV. I don't see Buell in any major AMA events. I don't receive any marketing from my local Buell dealer regarding any new models.

You know where I come to find out about new models?

BadWeb.

The information regarding new models will be conveyed more quickly and more accurately via Buell enthusiasts than Buell dealers.

Why would you not release information to the small rabid family of Buell enthusiasts first? A dealer is going to be upset that there are hordes of people beating their door down before, during, and after their dealer meeting?

How completely short sighted.

I can't even tell you how disappointed I am that nothing was released at Homecoming and how relieved I am that I didn't waste my time and money making the effort in hopes of seeing a pre-release of something new.

Shame on you Buell marketing. You completely missed the boat.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>So all they said at HC was "HANG ON, THERE'S BOLD NEW GRAPHICS

Who from Buell said that at Homecoming?
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Other than missing seeing other BadWebbers, I'm glad I didn't make the effort to get to the 25th Anniversary Homecoming.

I find it a vast marketing oversight to not use Homecoming as part of the central marketing effort for Buell. I can't tell you the last time I saw a Buell commercial on TV. I don't see Buell in any major AMA events. I don't receive any marketing from my local Buell dealer regarding any new models.

You know where I come to find out about new models?

BadWeb.

The information regarding new models will be conveyed more quickly and more accurately via Buell enthusiasts than Buell dealers.

Why would you not release information to the small rabid family of Buell enthusiasts first? A dealer is going to be upset that there are hordes of people beating their door down before, during, and after their dealer meeting?

How completely short sighted.

I can't even tell you how disappointed I am that nothing was released at Homecoming and how relieved I am that I didn't waste my time and money making the effort in hopes of seeing a pre-release of something new.

Shame on you Buell marketing. You completely missed the boat.


Exactly. Homecoming goer's care so much more about the Buell brand than the Beer swilling HD dealers it can't even be measured. Very disappointing.

Like I said before, the 1125r might be built from the rider down, but what ever is coming out this year weather it be a new bike or BOLD NEW GRAPHICS must have been built from the dealer down. It's a shame.

Another thing regarding Homecoming, they need to stop having it around the fourth. Makes it impossible for those of us that don't come from a Buell or even riding family to get to it. So IMO it makes sense to have HC and the dealer show at the same time, in mid July. Wonder if anyone is listening???
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have no doubt new things are coming (not just "bold new graphics").

I am supremely disappointed that Buell missed the opportunity to create the groundswell possible by releasing it during the 25TH ANNIVERSARY HOMECOMING!

25 years and NOTHING! NO SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS?

WTF?


If there were EVER a time and a place for a special announcement, it was this Homecoming.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Who from Buell said that at Homecoming?"

That's my question. BadLions relayed that message. I'm asking for verification of who said it at HC and what these new "bold Graphics" are.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ft_bstrd...+1 regarding the no "news" at this years homecoming - it is the best place to introduce something. However, what if there is in fact nothing new for next year? If all they did was get rid of the XB12S, then there would be no big news.

Badlionsfan... +1 as well regarding the date. It's a totally time to have it for a lot of people I'm guessing. July 4th is big family holiday for us and doing anything but going to to the cottage in Mass is just unacceptable. As such, there is no foreseeable way for me to ever attend this event.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's my question. BadLions relayed that message. I'm asking for verification of who said it at HC and what these new "bold Graphics" are

I wasn't at Homecoming. My BOLD NEW GRAPHICS prediction is in no endorsed or affiliated with the Buell Motorcycle Company or its parent company Harley-Davidson American Motorcycle Company.
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Spiderman
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As such, there is no foreseeable way for me to ever attend this event.

Sweet more beer and brats for me : D

In all seriousness if that is what you guys use to base an event off of that is truley sad.

I got to meet Blake for the first time and scar him for life LOL

See FMJ again, BluzM2 and all my other once a year friends. I got to drink my face off, do some riding and give Erik a pretty bitchen guitar.

But I guess all of our Ideas of "fun" vary...
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...isn't Buell Marketing *actually* H-D Marketing? As in, Buell does not have their own specific marketing department?

As to thinking that a lack of new bike information was a 'good reason' to have missed Homecoming, well, I'm sorry you feel that way and very strongly disagree.

Would it have been nice to have that kind of thing announced there, maybe at the dinner with the brass? Of course, but that isn't why I went.

I went to be with and ride with the people that love these awesome machines.

I was lucky enough to catch Erik rambling down pit lane at Road America and chat with him for a few minutes, and reiterate once again that he's got me hooked for life.

The Blast, Firebolt, and Ulysses all parked together is sight enough to make a grown man weep.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spidey,

What you describe is what I feel would be the main reasons I would want to attend Homecoming, the people.

My issue is that Buell has been around for 25 years and there was NOTHING NEW in the area of MOTORCYCLES?

If the removal of the 12s was the only news, how sucky. You'd think someone somewhere would get the idea "Hey this is a quarter century of Buell being in existence. Maybe we should release something new at the celebration of that existence."

I understand that the 1125R is a 25th anniversary edition, but its release was one year ago.

I sincerely hope that something great comes out of the dealer meeting.

Otherwise, someone somewhere should be kicked squarely in the sack for very bad planning.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Darthane,

What, other than an announcement of something "new" would have made this, the 25th Anniversary, different than any OTHER Homecoming?

Homecoming is fantastic! I hope to be able to attend someday.

I was just hoping for something special to separate this event from the 23rd or the 26th (the 24th was special because of the surprise release of the 1125R).

(Message edited by ft_bstrd on July 08, 2008)
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"and give Erik a pretty bitchen guitar. "

Got a pic? Sorry I missed that too, but other plans took priority due to the 4th of July holiday and family (direct and indirect families) schedule coordinations.

Mixing the Buell Homecoming up with the H-D & H.O.G. anniversary and rally isn't such a great idea either, even though it would put the Homecoming _after_ the dealer's meeting and allow publicity of any new accessories or items or products.
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Spiderman
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Heh...other than being at a much nicer hotel and there being many more Buellers involved, I can't say what made or makes it different - sadly I haven't made it since 2001 and don't know if I'll be able to make it next year. ; )

We don't KNOW that there's nothing new, all we know is that they didn't tell us of anything at Homecoming (other than all the new race parts for the 1125R). I'm sure H-D Marketing put the kibosh on anything like that happening. Were it up to Erik and Henry and the rest of the guys there, I'm sure they'd have loved to have given us SOMETHING, but, well, marketing people are a wierd breed all around.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the racing schedule at Road America kinda dictates when Homecoming is going to be.
Or at least its a big influence...

Either way, I had a great time!
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Neat. I assume that there is a small spidey sticker hidden away on it someplace. ; )
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It has been before the AMA races in early June and at the same time at the HOG rally. I think they get about the same number of people regardless (200-500 which since HOG brings 100,000+ is pretty small potatos)
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Isn't it just a little bit arrogant to be DEMANDING that Buell consider Homecoming to be more important than their dealer show?

Yeah, I know, we're enthusiasts, etc, etc, etc - but if I were a dealer who was just upstaged by an owner's group announcement, I'd be more than a little bit pissed...

...but that's just me
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, I know, we're enthusiasts, etc, etc, etc - but if I were a dealer who was just upstaged by an owner's group announcement, I'd be more than a little bit pissed...

...but that's just me


Well, if you were a typical dealer, you wouldn't care because you wouldn't like Buells anyway.

That's why I suggested having them at the same time, so neither the laze fare dealers or the rabid fans would feel slighted. Also, as I and others have stated, having it on a holiday weekend makes it hard if not impossible for some of us to get away.
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Agreed - if they could have held it at a SEPARATE venue - but it could NOT be held AT or WITH the Dealer Show. Realize that HD is HUGE by comparison.

Yeah, I'm sounding like I'm grateful for the crumbs thrown our way but it's hard for me to see how they could accommodate the Buellers actually AT the HD Dealer shows... though it's worth doing some brainstorming on it and maybe doing some letter writing and maybe even some direct visiting (NOT worthless E-mailing)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope they keep it during the races so I might have a chance at racing Road America.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Steve,

I hope my posts don't come across as arrogant. I'm supremely disappointed more than anything.

Buell isn't a brand driven by dealers. BMC is driven by owners and riders.

We had to FIND Buell
We had to crawl into a Harley dealership to buy a sportbike.
We had to convince the sales guy that we actually wanted the Buell stored in the corner next to the women's restroom instead of a Sportster.
We had to diagnose our own problems and document problem trends in order to help the service departments service our bikes.


This has been 25 years of hard core Buell fanaticism IN SPITE of the dealers.

If anything, I feel Buell owes us, as these fanatics, for the support we have shown and continue to show.

Were it not for BadWeb and our insistence and hunger for everything Buell, how long do you think it would take for word about new Buell models to get out to us were dealers the single source of information?

Were Buell a cold corporate entity, I would feel differently. We are family.
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Spiderman
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We are family.

And your sounding like the drunk Uncle who hasn't got the coolest present at the Christmas party.

You think you got it bad FB? I know you have a XB but did you own a tuber? Did you have to deal with the recals and dealer service a million times worse than what you have now?

Did you and three others have to organize an event cause H-D was too busy with the 100th to give two rice cakes about you, the Buell owner?

You didn't even go, how can you be disapointed at anything Buell did for an event? If anything Erik should be disapointed at you for not showing up.
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

........
(never leave your keyboard unattended during lunch or breaktimes)

(Message edited by mikej on July 08, 2008)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry. Didn't realize I had to have owned a tuber to count.

Carry on.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"We had to crawl into a Harley dealership to buy a sportbike."

Just buy a chrome HD license plate bracket, they'll love you then.
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Crashcourse411
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My dealer has the same problem. Last fall 3 months after the 1125r release, I went to the local Buell shop and they said, and I quote.

"yeah, I heard they were bringing out a new one at Mid-Ohio, for a track day or something. I think one of the techs that rides a Buell is going."

That was 3 months later. I went there for a test ride last month, and they had no clue as about the new tech in the 1125r but he did read some of the brochure to me! Then after the test ride, the credit check, and the salesman that could barely handle his NightRod, they told me "we gave all the camel packs away at the Spring opening, here have a bandana" That was the same weekend that the packs were for test riders, the first week of May.

I am willing to bet that same thing will happen again this year. Release to dealers and 4 months later when the dealer has one on the floor, they realize there is a new model sitting there.

As far as rumors go, how about a 725cc version of the 1125r. Full fairing, available with or without a track pack(lights, mirrors, etc). And we can't leave out the "S" guys either. No scoops for you guys though, rads are under the tailsection. Keep it naked.

All bikes get LED headlights.
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Spiderman
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry. Didn't realize I had to have owned a tuber to count.

You count as a Buell owner I just want you to realize you have yet to have a hard time or really test your limits of Buell ownership.

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