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Socoken
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 06:57 pm: |
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I have a great running 01 M2 with a set of cams in it, and a new 1125r. The other day I went for a ride with my brother, he on the M2, I on the 11. After a hundred miles or so, we swapped, then rode another 75 and stopped for dinner. After dinner, We had to flip a coin to see who rode which, cause neither of us cared. The 11 is so smooth and refined and comfortable (and really fast!), but the M2 is so loud and passionate. I love them both! I try and take turns riding each, so neither of them gets jealous. I think it takes a different type of person to get lit up seeing and riding a tuber. But, the XBs and the 11s are such complete, well made bikes, that you cant argue with the evolution of the make. So, from a guy lucky enough to have both, having a tough decision to make every time I open my garage door isnt such a bad thing! I just made a buy on a nitrous kit for the M2, so that decision is about to get a lot tougher! |
Smoke
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 07:23 pm: |
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the S1(to me) is sex on wheels. the demos i have taken on the xb series at the track have proven to me that the xb in general handles to me much better than the s1's. my issue has been that the power level of the xb series was not much different per se than the tubers. so i waited and now i have the xb based 1125R and i am well satisfied with the power and handling. the only problem now is that my license will soon be in jeopardy since i spend much more time near or in triple digits on my daily commute through the countryside. i may have to back up in the power dept to something slower in the daily commute, but i have something for that. ymmv tim |
Igneroid
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 09:51 pm: |
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Id like to hang one of them 1125 motors in my tuber.... |
Guell
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 10:25 pm: |
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i will never part with my m2, i absolutely love that bike. Its rolling mechanical baddass art. Not many people get it, but i do... |
Hexangler
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 12:17 am: |
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Id like to hang one of them 1125 motors in my tuber.... I think you meant: "Id like to hang my tuber over one of them 1125 motors...." Hex |
Bigdaddy
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 12:28 am: |
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i will never part with my m2, i absolutely love that bike. Its rolling mechanical baddass art. Not many people get it, but i do... Word! I feel you. (Message edited by bigdaddy on April 09, 2008) |
Igneroid
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 02:52 am: |
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I think you meant: "Id like to hang my tuber over one of them 1125 motors...." Hahahahahahaha Ya, Id like to do that too! Hahahahahahahahahah |
Torquemonster
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 03:20 am: |
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Matt, you can add DjKaplan and myself to that list. The only way I'd give up my M2 is for an S1 and ANOTHER M2! |
Court
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 07:16 am: |
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I'd never part with my S2 either . . . kinda cool having the FIRST Buell to set foot in New York City, Blue Ridge Parkway, Deal's Gap, Mt. Palomar, Mt. Whitney, Golden Gate Bridge, Mt. St. Helens and Heartland Park Topeka. Yeah. . . . it's got some history.
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Corporatemonkey
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 07:21 am: |
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Anyone want to be Anonymous is just sitting back laughing at all of this? I am thrilled with the maturity of this group, this thread hasn't taken a nasty tone... yet... |
Ceejay
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 07:54 am: |
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CityX-look up joesbuell(jodie) he's the one who it seems shares the same vision as blake... |
Fujkami78
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:19 am: |
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Thanks for all the great posts in answer to my question. I remember seeing the first S1 on the Boston Harley sales floor and just being awestruck by the raw mechanicality of the thing. Hung out with the first group of ATC guys in Mass. where we had up to 19 tubers in attendance (and my 96 VFR 750 which was very unpaid for). A Buell is making the bike disappear beneath the rider. All said and done, the XB's do it better and that is THE idea behind a Buell. And for us tuber fans, well, they're great in a different way, mechanical, raw, artistic, almost alive as they shake at idle...but let's give new alu framed Buells credit. Engineering is all about evolution, creativity, solving problems and from an engineering perspective, the alu frame solved many problems just like jets replaced prop commercial planes. The ride is sweet in any case and we're better for it that Erik ever put pencil to paper and dreamed up the first one! (Message edited by fujkami78 on April 09, 2008) |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 04:21 pm: |
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What CeeJay said. Here's the link to Jodie's excellent thread(s) documenting his valiant efforts. Jodie is doing God's work on what was an S3. I don't see why there is any impediment to Buell selling a run of high zoot limited production Sport-Customs. I'd gladly pay to have them do the work for me, and they could do it so much more efficiently I'm thinking. If not, I may open up my own Buell customizing shop some day, or invest in Jodie's. |
Paint_shaker
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 04:28 pm: |
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Raw or Refined?? I get to take my pic. |
Torquemonster
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 04:57 pm: |
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That looks like a "win, win" situation, man. |
Buellish
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 06:32 pm: |
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"1125r is not a buell" Is a Brough Superior not a Brough since it has a J A Prestwick motor? Was Erik's first effort not a Buell since it had a Barton motor? Are Aprillias not Aprillias since they have Rotax motors? Hmmmmmm... |
Grancuda
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 08:38 pm: |
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I think he was meaning it isn't a Buell cause its ugly. |
Bikerjim99
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 08:59 pm: |
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Arguably the 1125 may be the the "most" Buell since it's engine was built from the start to Buell specifications. The other Buells had engines that Erik had to modify. I still would not get rid of my S3, even with a modified Sportster engine. |
Danny_h__jesternut
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:04 pm: |
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First Buell "97" M2. Second/current Buell '00" X1. At one time I thought I needed the latest/greatest Buell. I no longer feel that way. I'll stick with old school, back to the tubers. |
Ezblast
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 10:44 am: |
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First motor built to Buell specs - making the bike totally Buell was of course the Buell Blast. EZ |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 11:16 am: |
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Never thought about that. You're right. |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 11:52 am: |
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I disagree with that - the blast engine is still the sportster engine at the core. Loping a cylinder off (and all the things that go with it) are no different than using a specific head and cam design, IMO. |
Badlionsfan
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:08 pm: |
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I disagree with that - the blast engine is still the sportster engine at the core but it was built to buell specs, from the castings up. |
Fester99
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:09 pm: |
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I just picked up a 96 S1, cause it is the bike that made me want a Buell. At that time I could not afford one. Now I have the means i made sure that I put one in the garage. I have been on several XBs and they are a great bikes, but I think it is the attitude of a muscle bike that makes tubers special. At least for me that it. I had to put a pic of the new ride up too. (Message edited by fester99 on April 10, 2008) |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:12 pm: |
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The Blast engine is truly Buell-specific. No other bike uses it. |
Fester99
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:12 pm: |
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Drummer
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:42 pm: |
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Fester99--Love the look of that bike! Does it look as good close up? Is the tank modified some? Steve |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 01:05 pm: |
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but it was built to buell specs, from the castings up. And the XB motor is near the same - built to Buell specs for the Buell bikes. I see no difference (and before anyone makes a stink about the new Sporters, those - in general terms - are using Buell engines more than Buell is using Sportster engines). The Blast engine is truly Buell-specific. No other bike uses it. And no other bike uses the XB engine in the XB state of tune. Again, what's the difference. A number of Bimotas use Ducati engines - does that make the engines any less Ducati? All I'm trying to say is this: The Blast engine was built to Buell's specs by mother Harley using the resources HD had. The XB engine was built to Buell's specs by mother Harley using the resources HD had. The 1125R engine was built to Buell's specs by Rotax using the resources Rotax had. I see no significant difference among any of these. (Message edited by xl1200r on April 10, 2008) |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 01:31 pm: |
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I like crunchy peanutbutter. I think people that eat the smooth stuff should be killed. |
Guell
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 01:45 pm: |
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I like crunchy peanutbutter. I think people that eat the smooth stuff should be killed. UNIBIKER! |
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