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Rkc00
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sanchez,
If I make it down this year I will have my equipment with me.

Mike
Long Island, NY
06 XB12X Black of course
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike,

I hope so. Your pictures last year were really cool!

Both of you guys have unbelievable talent!
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Damnut
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While I am a fan of some of the pictures taken last year, it was discouraging to find out people were trying to make a profit from said pictures.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Given the choice between pictures available for purchase or no pictures at all, I'll take the option to buy the pictures if I want them.

If someone wants to take time from their riding enjoyment to take pictures and offer them for sale, I have no problem with that.

You are able to view them for free. Technically, you don't have a right to do anything else unless you pay for them. Taking them and displaying them takes someone else's talent, time, and effort. If they wish to be compensated for these expenditures, I have no problem with it.

If you don't want to support them, don't buy them. I didn't not because I felt buying them was wrong but because I didn't find any that I really liked. Not the talent but the subject. : D
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Damnut
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I found some that I liked and politely asked for the digital photos. I was told that if I wanted them I would have to buy the prints. Those prints were not cheap and I have no need for prints. All of my pictures are digital and have been for many years. Just rubbed me the wrong way. And before something is said, I offered to buy the digital photos and was denied. Not the way business is done or some BS like that.

Hey I have a pretty nice camera and will be taking plenty of pictures. If someone asked me for one or wants on that I took/take, a digital one at that, I wouldn't feel right charging them for it. It doesn't cost me anything but time to email a photo. I'll be more than happy to share.

Sorry but it may be just me, it doesn't seem like the BadWeb way to try and profit from others going to the event, especially when no one asked them to do that.
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Rkc00
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damnut,
Sorry you feel the way you do.

Ft_bstrd,
Thanks for your insight and positive comments.

Mike
Long Island, NY
06 XB12X Black of course
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's just it. Mike did the photos on his own. No one asked him to do it. He didn't have to. He chose to charge for his work (which included sorting, enhancing, and categorizing in addition to just snapping the photos). Were he not theren you wouldn't have the photos to be upset about.

He chose not to sell the digitals. That probably hurt his model a little bit. You made a choice not to buy. Others probably made a similar choice.

Supply and Demand.

If selling the digital versions increases sales, he'll probably do that this time.

Either way, the pictures are his to do with what he wishes. How he sells them and what he decides to do with them is his business.

I hear what you're saying, but the level of work and the time involved brings him to feel that he should charge for his services. If no one buys and he feels the work isn't worth the payoff, he'll stop taking pictures. If he wants to give them away and is willing to do the work for free, he can do that to.

I don't believe that "free" music downloads are fair either.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Metallica supports you!

so do i
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Buellerandy
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Naaaapster baaaaad!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb_jLAisPzk
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Rkc00
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damnut,
Here you go:
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Ulywife
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike - very cool.

My favorite picture is the one you took of Hammer last MB at Gixxer Corner. Great shot.

BTW - Court asked Erik to sign the picture you took of us at Liberty's Open House. He addressed it to my daughter, so you know she thinks that picture is the "bomb".
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I actually liked the action sequence with Saintly. Sucky event but bitchin' photos.

Post again?
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Rkc00
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 06:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ulywife,
Glad she liked the photo.
Here are a few of Hammer71:





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Rkc00
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Rkc00
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 06:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is one of Gentleman_jon:



(Message edited by RKC00 on March 13, 2008)
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Rkc00
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some of my favorites:










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Rkc00
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)














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Rkc00
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is the Ulywife Family Photo:

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Damnut
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the pic Mike.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All those pics of knee drag'n makes me want to bring my leathers.

I just don't want to catch a case of "I can do that"

But I know I would.
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Bcool83
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Awesome pics...I don't have any good riding pics of me, so I'll be excited to have a couple taken...
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Rkc00
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jeremy,
Here you go:
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04buell
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ulywife et al:

My time looks okay.

Mrs 04buell
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Ulywife
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Carol. Looking forward to meeting you in Suches!
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Ratyson
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, so a best guess at a schedule here.
Basically, 2 demo groups, A and B. Each group has two sets of riders, 2 Leads and 2 Sweeps.
I estimated: 25min round trip time, 10 minutes between trips for a particular group, and 10 minute lag between group A and B. I figure the 10 minutes between trips is very optimistic, as there seems to be usually one rider that has to be searched high and low for.
This basically is the same for the PM groups... just change the times.

Demo Group A - AM
9:00-9:25 - Lead A-1 Sweep A-1
9:35-10:00 - Lead A-2 Sweep A-2
10:10-10:35 - Lead A-1 Sweep A-1
10:45-11:05 - Lead A-2 Sweep A-2
11:15-11:40 - Lead A-1 Sweep A-1
11:50-12:15 - Lead A-2 Sweep A-2
12:25 - 12:50 - Lead A-1 Sweep A-1

Demo Group B - AM}
9:10-9:35 - Lead B-1 Sweep B-1
9:45-10:10 - Lead B-2 Sweep B-2
10:20-10:45 - Lead B-1 Sweep B-1
10:55-11:15 - Lead B-2 Sweep B-2
11:25-11:50 - Lead B-1 Sweep B-1
12:00-12:25 - Lead B-2 Sweep B-2
12:35 - 1:00 - Lead B-1 Sweep B-1

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(Message edited by ratyson on March 10, 2008)
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Sanchez
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

> I don't have any good riding pics of me

Sure you do!



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New12r
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is a great pic!
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm feeling the need to sell a motorcycle off and buy me a decent DSLR and a lens or three. Nice pics.
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Bcool83
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I almost look like I fit on that bike in that picture, haha...

Mikej, I hear ya! I always thought my Canon point-and-shoot took good digi pics...but whenever I see any taken with a DSLR, I drool...
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