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Mxer83
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I plan on purchasing a semi-auto handgun soon, a .40 or a .45 cal. looking at sigs, glocks & S.&W. any suggestions or bad experiances with any of these ? thanks in advance!!!!!
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Cowboy
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The weapon that I carry every day is Glock 40 I shoot a 100 rounds per month to stay acuarate and fast I have never had any problem and it is very acuarate I think that most hand guns of today are ok and trust worthy, just stay away from the saturday nite specials.
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Dalton_gang
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a Ruger P89 9mm and was very happy with it. Now have a Ruger P95 9mm and am just as happy. Never had a problem with either.
I`m sure that you will like whatever you decide on. I think that your decision will probably be based on fitment/comfort, looks, and price.
Talk to a couple of your local dealers to find out if there are any known problems or quirks with any model you are considering.
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Trackdad
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the newer springfield DX moddels but have a few older S&W 39 completely modified into ASPS.... my favorite.

Glock are very reliable too!
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Doughnut
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use a .40 Glock at work, love it. 3000 plus rounds through it in less then a year with only one jam that was my fault, (damn weak wrist), and only cleaned it once. Don't know about the others you mentioned, but the Glock is stupid easy and very forgiving.
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Mikej
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I personally don't trust the Glock trigger system, a personal thing.

Look at a Sig P220 in .45ACP, works for me. Euro mag release (spring clip thing on the bottom of the grip, less chance of accidental magazine drop when wearing gloves)(plus I shoot left handed). Most Sigs these days have the more standard button magazine release.

If you plan on shooting it outdoors in the winter then bring your gloves with you when you go check out your options in person.
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Ryker77
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How much $$$ do you want to spend?

Springfield XD45 is around 500 brand new
A custom 1911 type 45 can be from 500-2000.00

Do you want to just burn through ammo or do you want a target accurate pistol? Carry or leave at home?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A long time ago I had bought a newer low end .45acp colt 1911 (1991 A1 or something?). It was OK, but was not the most reliable, OK accuracy but nothing special

Eventually I traced the reliability issues back to using the wrong power for reloading (Herco Unique... had a bunch extra to use up) and slightly oversized cast lead bullets. And by that time I had probably worn out the stock spring.

So all in all its fine, but like an old tuber, you have to meddle with it a bit to make it work right, and each meddle cascades into other meddles. Its satisfying if you enjoy that kind of thing, but annoying if you weren't looking for a hobby with your hobby.

If you get one of the higher end 1911's (Kimber maybe) they probably come pre-sorted out. Its worth the extra money to get the whole package pre-sorted.

Interestingly I also had gotten the chance to spend a lot of time shooting a 1920's vintage 1911, stamped US government and all, nice parkerized finish. Rattly and noisy and well worn, and never failed to fire, and was more then sufficient for combat accurate. 4" groups at 25 yards all day long no matter what you fed it.

I can give you lots of reasons why a .45 in a 1911 setup is a "worse gun" then most other setups. But it would still be my first choice as my favorite caliber round and format of handgun. Like a aircooled pushrod twin versus a watercooled inline four... I know the four is better in most measureable regards, and this has done nothing to change the fact that a 45 degree aircooled twin works better for me.

Cost is the other factor. I think a good sorted .45 1911 is still a $700 gun. You can go to places like aimsurplus (www.aimsurplus.com, not far from me) and get some very neat surplus military sidearms for $150 to $250... I like my 1911, but I am not sure its better then having a CZ-52, a CZ-82, a Walther P-38, and (just for fun) a Mosin M91/30 (get the laminated stock). You could buy all four of those guns, and some ammo, for less then a well sorted 1911. They are all no doubt selling for less then it cost to make them, and they have some cool history.

And don't dismiss a revolver. Cheap and accurate, and half the gun could be gone and it would still go bang.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All the guns you mention are excellent pistols.

The question is, what do you plan on doing with it?

Carry, target, home defense, all have requirements that call for a different weapon.

Handguns are sort of like motor bikes: you just can't have too many of them.

Am I right, my brothers?

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Mxer83
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ryker, I wont carry this gun much at all, I want something accurate and good for home defense plus I want something my other half can shoot. Yes I know thats alot to ask ,kinda like wanting a touring bike & a track bike all in one!!! thanks for all of your input, The springfiels armory is nice too!
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Teeps
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gentleman_jon Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008

The question is, what do you plan on doing with it?

Carry, target, home defense, all have requirements that call for a different weapon.

Handguns are sort of like motor bikes: you just can't have too many of them.

Am I right, my brothers?


Yes, yes you are...
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4cammer
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If your other half is new to handguns you might want to take a look at a good quality revolver. Especially if the gun may be relied upon for home defense.

That being said, if you are set on a semi-auto take a good look at what CZ-USA offers. Excellent reliability and very accurate. The CZ75/85 series are excellent firearms. Made in the Czech Republic. Fifteen rnd mags are standard in non-socialist states.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you get one of the higher end 1911's (Kimber maybe) they probably come pre-sorted out. Its worth the extra money to get the whole package pre-sorted.

Kimber 1911's are excellent. Excellent accuracy and reliability out of the box. I only put about 50 rounds though one, but I shot better groups with it that with my Glock 19 which I've put about 12000 rounds through. The Glock has had a few minor problems, but never any failure to fire issues. Only jams have been limp wrist related (no jokes please). Glock is reliable as a stone axe, and easy to clean.
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Jaydub
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the p89 is a fantastic weapon - have 2 : )

you can't go wrong with a sig or glock

it all depends on your preference and how much you want to spend

edit:

i just re-read - you other half will love almost any sig

(Message edited by jaydub on January 26, 2008)
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Doughnut
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not to make my mom sound bad, but I am anal about making sure that those close to me are able to make me sidearm "safe" just in case, and my mom,(never held a gun, much less fired one, at the age of 50+), after 3 times can unload and remove the chambered round of my sidearm perfectly. Stupid easy.
(Glock 22, 40 cal)
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Odie
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A few years ago I picked up new Taurus PT-145 Millennium at a pawn shop for $325. At the time it was going for around $500 elsewhere. As the Armorer for 10th SFG(A) when I was enlisted I have shot literally hundreds of different weapons from Walthers' to RPG-7's. I was a little leary about Taurus but it seemed like a great deal so I bought it. Great pistol. Composite and stainless, .45 cal. Small enough to conceal and will still stop someone with one half-way well placed shot. It goes with me everywhere. Pistols mentioned above are great also. Like Jon said: What is your primary goal with it? Answer that and go from there.
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Aldaytona
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Be sure to look at the Smith and Wesson 40VE. It's a US made Glock copy in poly and stainless, same easy take down for cleaning. On sale at most dealers for a discounted $300.00, and til the end of the month, $50.00 cash rebate and 2 extra magazines. Where can you find a quality US made 9mm or 40cal auto with a lifetime warranty for approx $250.00? It's almost like Smith and Wesson extended Christmas.
Best deal in autoloaders I have ever seen.
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Kowpow225
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been eyeing either a 9mm or .45. What are some of the benefits and drawbacks of each? I'm leaning towards a Ruger. Still relatively new to the handgun buying process but have a few shotguns and rifles.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kowpow, you might as well have asked which is better, dino oil or synthetic. Grab a seat this'll take a while.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not sure if I can post this here, but I have a Ruger P85 9mm that I'd like to sell. PM me for more info. Please feel free to delete if post is inappropriate.

Thanks,
ar
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Kowpow225
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hahaha! Glad I could help. Sorry for the wormy mess.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've shot a P85, its a great gun. Its a bit wide for my tastes, but thats just a personal taste thing. Aside from that it was great!
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M1combat
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Home defense... Get a 12Ga semi-auto. Benelli M1 preferably.

I like Kimber for a 45. HK USP for a 40 or a 9mm.

What's your price range? Can you stand a DAO trigger? I can't.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Try this



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Just_ziptab
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The worst thing about semi autos is that once you fire it...it's ready to go bang again. Safety is even more important here. I have SA and DA autos.....22 short Minx, 92F, 3 brands of 1911's and a 44 automag. They all scare me just because of the above statement...but fun to shoot none the less and I love guns. When I was heavy into competition, 15,000 rounds a year was the norm and I never had an AD. I haven't looked at my 92F for a long time because it's not very accurate and I seldom shoot it. Tonight I was just checking it out and pulled the clip, jacked the slide to check the chamber(empty) and then pushed the slide latch and the hammer dropped. WTF? Tried many times to repeat the process, but couldn't get it to happen again. This thing is un molested in configuration..........bone stock with like a 10 pound trigger pull. The only thing I can figure is that I didn't fully rack the slide when I checked the chamber and may have just "barely" cocked the hammer on the sear. Yes the safety was off. I rarely use the safety. Either there is a round in the chamber and I'm going to shoot it..........or the gun is empty and the action open...standard procedure in the competition events that I entered.
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Knotrider
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 01:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

S&W 500 or H&K
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Bad_karma
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a Ruger P90Dc in 45APC. Excellent gun. But not sure that a woman would want to shoot and handle a full size 40 cal pistol. I like the stopping power of the large round. But maybe a smaller round might fit your situation better. Not a fan of S&W after they sold out to the Clinton administration. Also Ruger has denied an employee health insurance cover for a motorcycle accident. Good luck, enjoy your guy and learn what deadly force is. Support the second amendment.
Joe
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 05:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Say what you will about the Saturday Night Specials, but that damn hot shot 357/38 has NEVER let me down. And no can of cream corn is safe at 30 ft. Anything more than that really isnt a pistol fight, but thats just me.
Different weapon for different tasks, the Mossy 580 is in the bedroom, The AWOTS is stored securely and quick down stairs, the Springfield 9 is a gun safe near the "entertainment system" and the Tec 9 is the last resort but a fun noise maker none the less. (no I dont have kids in the house, nor plan on any)
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The best things in life are belt fed
why else does every action star use them?
Stallone
Governator
Chuck M.F. Norris
Statham
just to name a few
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For "large stopping calibers", I think the 45 acp is one of the most comfortable to shoot.

It makes a big bang, but its more of a longer slower push then even a 9mm. When you start getting into .40 sw and 10mm, or even some +P 45acp loads, it just stops being fun.

A friend let me shoot his 44 magnum... He offered to let me fire all 6 rounds. I fired two and handed it back to him, it was just un-useful and un-fun. If I need that power I would prefer a carbine.
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