| Author | Message | ||
     Slaughter |
Now - if we start talking aftermarket... I'm really curious about suspension - if Max is going to put a set of AK20 cartridges out for the bikes? I would wonder if Richie Morris Racing will come up with some really innovative stuff in their MotoST machine(s) that will be picked up by Hal's Racing and made available in the aftermarket? Can't wait to see whazzup in the MotoST opener in Daytona in March! | ||
| Slaughter |
As has been posted by others here, the chassis (built in Illinois, NOT Italy) is made by a TOTALLY different process: Ablation Casting. I was curious when I first saw it posted on Badweb (thanks Hughlysses!) and had our metallurgists in our other facility chase it down - at first without looking into it, they told me that it sounded like "hype" - but on further investigation, they found that the process itself enabled dramatic improvements in the physical and mechanical properties of the metals used (aluminum in this case - alloy assumed to be proprietary as far as I know) From my co-worker (metallurgist, non-ferrous metals his specialty) - he is directing our direct-manufacturing (e-beam and laser deposition) Titanium program right now so he tends to know of what he speaks.
Seems that there is MUCH MORE to the 1125R than meets the "eye." | ||
| Slaughter |
So you see - not the FIRST time that Buell technology beats the Aerospace/Defense business! | ||
| Rocketman |
So you see - not the FIRST time that Buell technology beats the Aerospace/Defense business! Buell merely employed the services of an aluminium manufacturer. Buell didn't invent the process nor have any involvement in its technology. And the company in question is in the aerospace business, as well as every other business involving aluminium. And they have a poor track record of looking after the environment too. Facts. Quote facts. Rocket | ||
| Dbird29 |
Slaughter That is some refreshing, interesting information. I would much rather read about new techniques than blathering about TVR engined choppers! Does the ablation casting mean more complex shapes are possible? (thinking of the magnesium piece for the instrument cluster) Cool stuff! | ||
| Rocketman |
A little clarity. The BadWeB is littered with people into their music. Anyone remember the Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows? It's the last track on Revolver. Unashamedly borrowed from Wikipedia........ "Tomorrow Never Knows" is the final track of The Beatles' 1966 studio album Revolver. It is credited as a Lennon/McCartney song, but was written primarily by John Lennon. Although it was the first song that was recorded, it was the last track on the album. The song is significant because it contains the first example of a vocal being put through a Leslie speaker cabinet to obtain a vibrato effect (which was normally used as a loudspeaker for a Hammond organ) and the use of an ADT system (Automatic double-tracking) to double the vocal image. "Tomorrow Never Knows" ends the Revolver album in a more experimental fashion than earlier records, which contributed to Revolver's reputation as one of the group's most influential and expressive albums. What Wikipedia don't mention is another little piece of interesting noise the song contains. The screeching sound that can be heard is McCartney laughing, speeded up, and played backwards. Such information is wonderful don't y'all think? Now if only a motorcycle company were so open about their own brand of magic. If I knew of such a company building magic into their motorcycles, I'd be sure to ask for the ingredients. But then I always enjoyed advancing the pool of knowledge that is my brain. Rocket | ||
| Crusty |
Did you know that Immodium can help with diarrhea? | ||
| Buellnuts |
Thread sucks. Rocket really Sucks. Who asked me? That question just sucks! They are what they are and nothing else. I couldnt get through reading all of this thread. It is just allways the same.....It Sucks! All hail the all knowing Rocket! Bob  | ||
| Blake |
"Buell merely employed " "Merely"? Your arrogance and ignorance still run amuck. And the belittling commentary against Buell is not appreciated. Try to be wise enough to realize what you don't know. | ||
| Hdbobwithabuell |
No, really... just get rid of this ••••••• (Rocketman in case you didn't guess) This guy is a f'ing cry baby bitch with nothing better to do than sit on this board all day and try to make trouble. Good thing is all virtual because someone would surly kick the living $hit out of him. One more time. IF YOU DONT LIKE BUELL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE or at least STFU. If you really need it, we can all chip in and get you some therapy if your mommy and daddy didnt show you enough love. | ||
| Dbird29 |
Again Rocket is current with 40 year old information.  Now Slaughter's info was cutting edge and cool.  See the difference? | ||
| Rocketman |
How is it belittling to Buell to correct someone for posting inaccurate information about Buell? Rocket | ||
| Gregtonn |
Damn it Sean!! I keep trying to give you a chance to make some sense! Is your best response to blather on with an obscure story about some drug impaired musicians? Granted they sold plenty of records to drug impaired fans but in my opinion they sucked! Your posts of late has been extremely disappointing and have had damn little to contribute to the advancement of motorcycle design! Perhaps you are a lost cause. I hope not. If you are, it truly is a shame. Rant mode off. Greg | ||
| Crusty |
Gregtonn; When you feed a troll, he doesn't go away, and he doesn't get any better. Trolls get their kicks by ruining as many people's enjoyment of a forum as they possibly can. Trying to be sensible or logical will not help a bit. Ignore him. Don't rise to his bait, and eventually, he'll go away. | ||
| Dbird29 |
Will Ablation Casting react different to impacts? What will repair involve? | ||
| Rocketman |
Actually Gregg, I thought I'd made a great deal of sense in this thread  despite the personal insults, trolling and animosity thrown at me. Which leads me to wonder about your own comments. How condescending of you to give me a chance? Then you completely miss the point about the Beatles' analogy, whether on purpose or not I can't tell, as you seem to want to put down me rather than the analogy itself by pointing out the Beatles', and their fans, were into drugs. Why would you behave in such a manner if you really are looking for a technical based discussion? Your mannerisms toward that debate look a lot different at my end than you claim. So my posts of late????? have been a little disappointing? You mean the ones where I defended myself against those out to discredit me, simply because I love motorcycles, but refuse to swallow the Buell line when clearly there's stark evidence to support Buells bold claims of superior to R1 performance, best aerodynamics on a semi naked bike ever, and a restricted to 116rwhp 1125 clocking 171mph at a Daytona tyre test? Then just early today we have someone implying Buell came up with a new way of casting aluminium to make an 1125 frame. Then they go on to say the technology Buell used to do so beats that of the US aerospace and military. That is ridiculously inaccurate and misleading information and I don't see the point of it. I much prefer that I know the facts, and not one mans dreamy aspirations for a company he appears to worship. But because I'm not the Buell fan some are, I'm standing on dangerous ground every time I make a comment about Buell when I ask that the truth be told, or I correct the inaccuracies of some information posted. That I do so makes me arrogant and ignorant apparently, and I fear to continue will surely see my account on BadWeB suspended. Rocket - keeping it real | ||
| Rocketman |
Will Ablation Casting react different to impacts? What will repair involve? A thinly veiled and pathetic attempt to disguise the amount of trolling you're doing in this thread  Strangely, a good question though, but perhaps one best answered by Alcoa and not Buell, would be my guess. Rocket | ||
| Dbird29 |
Rocket You going to bring your drugs to Bonneville again? 'Cause you must be doing something to make you so paranoid that everyone is a liar.  What a sad man. | ||
| Rocketman |
I gave up smoking hash at least 4 years ago. But thanks for asking. Next time I go to Bonneville, I hope to do so as a 'doer' and bring along my V8 contraption. I might even drop by your place and say hello on the way. If it's some good hash you're enquiring about, for you I could make an exception and smuggle a little in. Rocket | ||
| Mainstreamer |
Ya gotta hand it to Sean, he is the master debater, and you guys continue to walk in with your fly open. Either enjoy the experience or walk away. Seems simple enough to me. | ||
| Dbird29 |
I doubt you will be "do"ing Bonneville. No thanks on the offer of drugs but it would be fun to see you attempt to smuggle it thru. I'm thinking something similar to "Midnight Express". But if you were to actually attend Bonneville, I would be obligated to provide lodging and hospitality. You remain a sad trolling old man. | ||
| Rocketman |
But if you were to actually attend Bonneville, I would be obligated to provide lodging and hospitality. Is that a breakthrough in our relationship? Great. About time. Rocket | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
any product publicly sold is open to scrutiny...most buell discussions on any other forum die within a page or two..this is unique as is badweb where as a brand can be looked at somewhat openly .id like to see how that lodging and hospitality thing works out for bird and rocket hahahaha oooh the thought. | ||
| Crusty |
despite the personal insults, trolling and animosity thrown at me. Would you like some cheese to go with that whine? | ||
| Cityxslicker |
You know, despite the bickering here and there, most people are down right hospitable, esp if you help with the cause of some good BBQ , liquor and tales of the road. I havent found that on a couple of the other boards I am on. Lets just say nobody from ADV rider is inviting me to camp in their back yard on my midlife crisis tour. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
true slicker very true...i think rocket is smart enough to know that there are some of the best people in the motorcycling world right here...ive been around a long time and there arent many places especially on the internet where goodwill is a common goal throughout...i also think he's smart enough to know that if u push someone that is loyal to a brand they will get defensive...sometimes very...hell i dont want someone telling me my bike is a pile...they would get it right back in spades....but somewhere in there there is a point to be made...somewhere... maybe instead of banning rocket blake could get some of the other guys to back off a little...we wouldnt love our country so much if we didnt have to fight so hard for it even with all its flaws..ya'll wouldnt love ur bikes so much if u didnt have to fight for what u belive in so hard...let rocket stay. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Heck Cityslicker, I'll let you stay in the guest room in the basement, toss you the keys to the KLR 250, and point you to the neighbors hot tub and beer keg. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
u can stay at my place slicker...i hear those first ten miles are the hardest so feel free ta stop by hahahaha.... | ||
| Crusty |
Rocket is just a troll. He has nothing positive to say about anything Buell related. He claims to be a Buell enthusiast, yet he ceaselessly belittles any accomplishment or advancement the factory makes. The sooner he goes and haunts some other forum, the better. | ||
| Mcgiver |
Went riding this morning, with a British gentleman who works for Kawasaki as a development test rider. He was riding a preproduction zx10r, and he was commenting on my XB12R, and the new 1125. He thought they were very stylish, and liked the way they look. So I guess it's not a British thing!Go figure. Brian  |
