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Rex
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the new colors..I really like the black and gold. REX Can't wait till 2005. REX
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Dave
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kudos to Buell for having the web site locked and loaded. Good things indeed.

Hell I think it's great that Buell went with a stroked version. Seems that it paves the way for a touring variation (everyone click the ruby red slippers) I like the black/gold combo and I'm warming up to the new red.

I wish the Blast would have got a new twist. Something radical like the Ozzy Pepsi commercial.

I wonder if Nallin Racing had a heads up with this seeing they went towards bore.... I'm glad it all goes together so well...almost like it was planned out. :) Just a random thought.

DAve
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think there a lot of people that have to get of their @$$ and buy a Buell. I should have made a list of all the people that said "I'd buy one if they had more power."
Now, how many of the new go fast goodies will fit one my OLD bike!!!
If the XB9Rs looked like that when I bought my S, I mighta gone home with an R. Love that black and gold.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"still no factory frame slider mounts.........."
ROFLMAO JQ, you are truly incorrigible. ROFLOL
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Jim_witt
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DAve wrote:

...... kudos to Buell for having the web site locked and loaded. Good things indeed ......



Right on, great job. Love the Black/Gold and even the red combo. Looks pretty sweeet to me, just to pricy.

-JW:>;)


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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike J,
Sorry no crates. If there are any out there they will still be at roadway with a sign saying when to deliver. But none as of yet.
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Mzoomora
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would like to know why they didn't go for the 7500 rpm peak with a bigger cam, the 9's rev that high so the valvetrain can take it. That could be 110 horse, maybe more. Either way, I like it.
MZ
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Spooky
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anybody noticed that they changed the primary drive ratio on the XB12?

XB12- 1.500:1 (57/38)

XB9- 1.676:1 (57/34)
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Aaron
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mzoomora: piston speed would be too high for good longevity.
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Spooky
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

somebody, anybody, HELLO. How will the changes in the primary ratio effect performance?
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Mzoomora
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aaron,
Good point, especially now that the warranty is for a longer period. At least we know that the factory parts are capable of it.
MZ
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Mzoomora
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It seems to me it would effect it just like a sprocket change, and the 12 has the torque to pull the taller gearing. More top end?
MZ
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Koz5150
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So I just got into work tonight and started reading all this... Sucks to be a XB9 owner. The improvements are great and the XB12 looks to be everything people were asking for. Being a Tuber guy I am still happy with my M2. Since 75% of my riding is two-up I can't see trading in my bike for the new XB12. I deffinately will test drive on during the 100th.....
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Prof_stack
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No Koz, it does not suck to be an XB9 owner. Its a wonderful machine all by itself with or without the XB12. The motor is a real smoothie.

Not all of us are speed gonzos. :]

But I'm glad the XB12 is out, finally. Maybe it will "put up or shut up" the tubers who still whine about the demise of their (often) unreliable steeds.
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Koz5150
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am not saying the XB9 is a bad bike. I am just saying that you get a lot more this year. Even if you still bought the XB9 you get more warranty and less cost...
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Sucks to be a XB9 owner."
I wish I owned one. I would OWN LW SS in CMRA! :D

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Paroyboy
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$10,995 for an extra year warranty and a "little" extra grunt? $1800 premium over the XB9R? Must be a size matters thing! 9R seems like the bargain especially compared to the $9,995 I paid for the first one a year ago. Come next spring, there will be another 9R in my garage. (yes, I curse the day I sold it)
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Koz5150
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But how long do you think that it will stay at $10,995. Right now you can pick up a '03 XB9 for $7000 and that is only one year after the model was introduced. By this winter you will be able to get a XB12 for under $10,000 and the XB9 will probably be right around $7500. I test drove the XB9s last year and I thought it was cute. I still think the bike is to small, but that's why I bought my M2 at the end of last year.
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Dynarider
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$7000???? havent seen it that low anywhere. Cheapest I have seen was $7400 & that guy only had 2.
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Koz5150
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know it's ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6704&item=2423 767529

But it is a XB9s low with no reserve starting at $6995 (only 2 days left on the auction, no bids) Thing is if you call that dealer, I am sure they would take $7000 cash for the bike right now. How short do you have to be to ride a XB9s low???
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Roc
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well done Buell!
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Jim_witt
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ya right, I can just see Blake on a XB(whatever)!



-JW:>;)
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Koz5150
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 01:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just read this on the Sport Rider website. The article explains how the Interactive exhaust works along with some other good info.

http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/2004/146_04_buell_xb12r/
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 04:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To quote Aaron: This bike is going to be an absolute hoot to ride, you watch.

I am thrilled with what Buell has done. They continue to represent THE leading edge of technology in sportbiking. The power of the XB, in concert with it chassis, renders moot the "but ______(insert whine here)", and the warranty raises the bar in the industry.

I suspect that in the coming days and months we will learn more of the "Buell-Berg", that most of what is new, innovative and adds value is out of sight and concerns systems that insure quality, reliability and generally a satisfying ownership experience.

I am truly excited about the things the good folks at Buell have done.

Court
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Pilot
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 06:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When does the race kit become available?As we in Australia are going to need it,I do not want to be shafted like last time,or does this new exhaust pass our noise laws?Enquiring minds need to know.Can I have mine in BLACK?Counting the days till I get a phone call from the importer informing me that the Bike I wanted is now available.Where I live twisties are few and far between.Power Rules.
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 06:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Sucks to be a XB9 owner."

Spoken like somebody who doesn't own one.

Getting irate over Buell producing a 12 when we just bought 9s a year ago is like me being mad that I got a '02 Ram and they introduced the Hemis in '03. In every industry worldwide, advancements are made every year. You cannot purchase anything without the expectation that something better will come along soon. If you have that kind of mentality, you'd never own anything for fear that it would be superceded the next year!

-=grins=- I love my 'underpowered, ill-handling', perfect little XB9R Firebolt.

edited by darthane on July 15, 2003
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Koz5150
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Sucks to be a XB9 owner."

Seeing as I am taking a beating for that comment, I will try to elaborate. 2003 XB9 comes with one year warranty, cost was $9995. 2004 XB9 comes with two year warranty, improved final drive belt, and cost is $9,195 (which is only suggested, not laid in stone). It just seems like a much better package this year, not to mention you have the option to go big on power that was not available last year.

DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY IF YOU OWN A 2003 XB9!!! It's just an observation. Personally I will miss the white color, I thought it looked great
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY IF YOU OWN A 2003 XB9!!!
I don't, and, I bought mine for just under $9000 OTD in April. I was also offered 1% less interest if I got an extended warranty. So, I got a year added on, and a killer rate on my loan. So I think I came out ok.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can some anon / semi-anon / anyone please post a dyno chart now that the embargo is over? PLEEEEEAAAASSSEEEE? I bet it is a thing of beauty!
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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