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Cochise
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Helen Walton, the founding mother of Wal-Mart (sorry, I said Walton) died the other day and the City of Bentonville, of which I work, had the Police Department stake out her house to keep out Looters (I guess). I also saw a tinted windowed van with a couple guys in suits with the ear buds in their ear, which I am not positive, but I think it was the SS, any thoughts? Do you think they would do that?

(Message edited by cochise on April 24, 2007)
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Kdan
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What's Walton?
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Caféelite
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ummmm walmart, like their kinda big. The daughts are slightly chilling on the most wealthy list.

"Helen died with an estimated net worth of $16.4 billion."

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Ducxl
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What's Walton?

Home of that insidious Big boxmart China outlet store..They're soooo driven by the bottom line that their U.S. suppliers are forced to outsource to third world labor.Walmart is unpatriotic and an embarassment to Capitalism....Like,Capitalism on steroids.
I want them out of buisness..with prejudice.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Look anything like this . . .


USSS 04.24.07
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Djkaplan
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I am not positive, but I think it was the SS"

With 16 bil in the kitty, you can have your own security service... it was the Wal-Mart police.
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Kdan
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oooohhh...That Walton. I am so NOT a consumer.
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I refuse to give Wal-Mart my hard earned money!
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I refuse to give Wal-Mart my hard earned money!

Same here
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No_rice
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I refuse to give Wal-Mart my hard earned money!
i would like to say that, but a good chunk of one side of my family pays their bills because of there jobs there.

also i am more along the lines of... the place that has what i need when i need it gets my money.

i'm not always about price, usually, but not always. i am about having it as fast as i can when it's something i need.
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G234146
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Read somewhere that Wal-Mart is planning to have its own clinics/pharmacies.

Call me crazy, but that sounds like the best use of the high-volume-low-price tactic.
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Ducxl
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Read somewhere that Wal-Mart is planning to have its own clinics/pharmacies.

Yeah BUT,with their constant demand for cost cutting,no AMERICAN doctors would staff it.They will import some sweet Doctors from Guatemala and pharmacists from Bangladesh..WOO-HOO!!!! That's just their style.They despise American labor,and that's their biggest consumer...SUCKERS shop at Wal-Wart
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G234146
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"They will import some sweet Doctors from Guatemala and pharmacists from Bangladesh"

I don't think you can practice medicine in the U.S. without being licensed by the U.S.

But you're right, they're certainly not doing it for the greater good of the working man$$$
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Cochise
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Home of that insidious Big boxmart China outlet store..They're soooo driven by the bottom line that their U.S. suppliers are forced to outsource to third world labor.

You're wrong about the outsource thing, sort of, the main thing WM makes the supplier do is have an office in Bentonville, or the surrounding areas. Not saying that companies that SUPPLY Wal-Mart don't have factories overseas that make their supplies. Take the Company my wife works for after leaving working at the Home Office, their clothes are made in China and Bangladesh and Wal-Mart goes to every factory that the supplier has all over the World and checks them out for Child Labor Law infractions, shortage of fire protection, locked fire doors. Believe it or not, WM has a Code of Ethics that factories HAVE to live by. As a matter of fact, the company she works for has had a couple of infractions.

Walmart is unpatriotic and an embarassment to Capitalism....Like,Capitalism on steroids.

I'll give you that, also they are unfair to women (Hence the lawsuit) and Elderly.

I want them out of buisness..with prejudice.

Yeah, but if they do, I'll be out of a job and so will the owners of the Harley Shop I so desperately want to work for. Wal-Mart is bad for a few parts, but for the most part they do a bit of good

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Instead of re-writing the whole post, I'll just say, I mis-read your post that Wal-Mart doesn't force the companies, the prices WM wants, forces the companies to outsource. WM's new thing is they want stuff "Cheep and deep"
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Cochise
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW, I don't work for Wal-mart, just the city that houses the G.O. and a few of their Warehouses, er, I mean Distribution Centers. The biggest gripes I have are the way they think that THEY own the city and the "Wal-Mart Law" that their utilities are the most important, i.e. their Fiber Optics. We've been told several times by the Brass that we need to respect their Fiber and I can't run my backhoe within 10 feet of it, unless their lackeys, the Wachter Company, babysit us, even though every other utilities is only eighteen inches, and they don't have to babysit us. I also HATE, WITH PREJUDICE is the Associate thing, it is because of those jerks at Wal-Mart with their you're an associate, you're an Administrative Assistant, bull-butter, you're an Employee, you're a secretary. Then you have Target's, we're hiring for Team Members, "would Team Member Joe Frus come to the front desk?".... "NO, not until you call me an employee first, moron"

Wal-Mart does suck, but they will never die, just like on the South Park show
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll go on the record as being a fan and customer of walmart. Remember in the 80's when a VCR cost you more than a couple hundred dollars? Not any more. Walmart makes alot of things affordable.
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Rex
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

too bad that they can not share some of the money, and help out the new norton company in portland, or excelsior henderson, or indian, or chaney motorcycles...ahahahha. rex
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Ducxl
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Remember in the 80's when a VCR cost you more than a couple hundred dollars

That VCR was manufactured by your neighbor across the street.Yeah,you remember him,the one with them 4 cute little kids? Yeah....he lost his job and lives in the projects now thanks to us greedy consumers who demanded lower costs.Now YOU are supporting Sum Yun Guy in Singapore....Stand up and be Patriotic and support your fellow American!!!
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Buellshyter
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court, they only drive around in those big Suburban's when they want to look conspicuous
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Ryker77
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is not Wal-Marts fault. It is your fault.

American's don't vote and are not involved in politics. Thus the massive un-secure open border and the unregulated h1b visa program. And the wide open imports from China.

Wal-Mart is following the laws that we have allowed to be in play. In fact Wal-Mart probably follows the law better than mom-n-pop stores since everybody is watching walmart.

DollarGeneral, Family Dollar, k-mart, Target etc etc all buy from the cheapest supplier. Our government allows it and we the consumer buy it.
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They're probably private security, though the Waltons are probably powerful enough to get the Government to provide protection for them. As if they can't afford to hire good people.
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Tommy_black_shark
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stand up and be Patriotic and support your fellow American!!!

Who'da thunk it? I would have thought that 4 years in the Army, a Purple Heart and a CI badge would have been enough to demonstrate my patriotism. In addition I vote every year and pay my taxes. But wait, I also shop at Wal*Mart, so I guess that undoes everything. I used to think the Wal*Mart bad-mouthing was just frustrated union organizers who'd love to get their hooks into that labor force, but now I think it is deeper.
For my patriotic friends that won't shop at Wal*Mart and encourage me to do the same I just want to know:
1) How much extra are you willing to spend in order to shop somewhere else? Enough to change your standard of living?
2) Are there American made alternatives to the products Wal*Mart sells and they just don't stock them, or has most manufacturing of non-durable retail goods moved overseas? Does Wal*Marts competitors such as Target sell these products?
3)Are you opposed to all foreign products, in other words do you boycott all stores that sell foreign made products?
4) How about buying American made products at Wal*Mart? Groceries, film, etc. Is that OK?



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Iamike
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court-

You keep taking pictures like that and you'll have someone knocking at your door!

Joe-

I don't blame WM for the 10' rule, do you realize how many dollars are flowing through their fiber every second? We have too many bozos who dig first, think later.
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Cochise
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wal-Mart Fiber has three canduits, 1 has the actual fiber, the second has the re-route in case of breakage and the third is a decoy, which is higher that the others. If their conduit is so important, and Wal-Mart is so perfect why can't they tell where the fiber is buried? AH-HAH! Beat that Iowa boy!!!: D : D : D : p
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Cochise
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We have too many bozos who dig first, think later.

You callin' me a Bozo? : D
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Ducxl
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tommy...'ya didn't have to play the military card,but you're an honorable citizen..

1.) Enough to support my fellow American first and foremost

2.)Walmart won't stock ANYTHING American that they can buy cheaper from third world countries...some of which you yourself may have been deployed to

3.) I'm only opposed to foreign products from countries that do not have a fair trade balance with MY country.

4.) NO...Walmart is already guilty..and i wouldn't give them ANY benefit of MY HARD earned American income.


And i'm a member of NO union,although the Teamsters paid for my(and sis's) orthodontics when we were kids..Do the Chinese have that benefit??
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Iamike
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Joe,
Are they in the same trench? That wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. Of course at our main control center we had most of our communications coming in by overhead fiber. I had asked our engineers how smart that was. They ignored me until a car took out the pole and just about shut down communications to over 500 substations. Needless to say they looked at a redundant route after that.
I didn't say all excavators were bozos , just the ones that dig first call later.

p.s. I don't know when we are going to get back down there. The first try two weeks ago was kind of delayed by the storm. Now we can't find a weekend that fits anyone's schedule.
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Tommy_black_shark
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1.) Enough to support my fellow American first and foremost

2.)Walmart won't stock ANYTHING American that they can buy cheaper from third world countries...some of which you yourself may have been deployed to
I picked up a pair of sneakers a few months ago, I was going to buy them and noticed they were made in Viet Nam. I am not sure why, but I just couldn't bring myself to buy them. I put them back on the shelf, but I wouldn't boycott Costco because of it. Do you think that if Wal*Mart wasn't around the low end manufacturing wouldn't have gone overseas? It went because of lower labor costs and looser (read no) environmental regulation.

3.) I'm only opposed to foreign products from countries that do not have a fair trade balance with MY country.
That must make it a little hard to buy gasoline. To say nothing of TV's, personal electronics, and sake. The animosity many Americans feel today for China was aimed at Japan a generation ago. You don't hear as much anti-Japanese sentiment these days because you'd have a hard time buying the previously mentioned electronics equipment or a motorcycle for that matter without Japanese content. The facts of international trade are that with some products and countries you have a surplus, with some you have a deficit. The US runs huge surpluses in services and ag products (food). Huge deficits in consumer level manufactured goods.


4.) NO...Walmart is already guilty..and i wouldn't give them ANY benefit of MY HARD earned American income.
Your prerogative, but since Wal*Mart is the world's largest seller of many American made products, and the exclusive seller of some you may be inadvertently doing a disservice to American workers.


I see from your screen name and your profile that you are Ducati fan. Great bikes, but as I'm sure you know made in Italy. Did you know that the US has a huge trade deficit with Italy? More than $20B in '06. I'm not looking to bust your stones, just show that there are many sides to this story. Ride safe!
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If shopping at walmart brings down union manufacturing in the US than Iam a full supporter. American manufacturing needs an overhaul in alot of areas.
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Cochise
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To tell you the truth, Mike, I haven't seen the fiber optic because they are most usually quite a bit below our Water Lines, but when my supervisor was talking to the Wachter Representative who was babysitting were talking and my boss said, and I'm paraphrasing, he was griping about them being there breathing down our necks because "there is a decoy and two conduits in the ground..." and the Wachter Rep agreed, but it was his job to watch us anyway.
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