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Tommy_2stroke
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MPs have urged the government to carry out a study into the possibility of fitting speed limiters to motorbikes.
The House of Commons Transport Committee said accident rates are far too high and radical action is needed.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6505423.stm

http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idU SL2943157720070329?pageNumber=2}

Have the British people simply lost control of their government, or what?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Like speed limiters couldn't be removed.
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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They could, but I bet the deterent 'fine' for such action would be VERY extreme.
Most AR rifles can be converted to automatic, but if you're caught expect jail time. They could make tampering with a speed limiter a higher class penalty.

I don't think it will go very far. It would devastate the motorcycle and auto industries. Cars would be the next logical step. Why would anybody buy a monte carlo with a speed limiter, why not just buy the cavalier?
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Liquorwhere
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

V for Vendetta.....it is all beginning to happen...hehehe..
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Samiam
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Remember, remember, the Fifth of November...
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Ryker77
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Why would anybody buy a monte carlo with a speed limiter, why not just buy the cavalier?"

I often pass corvettes and other "fast" cars on the highway in my VW Golf diesel at 45mpg.

If they install speed limiters, how will local police departments make up the lost ticket revenue?
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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If they install speed limiters, how will local police departments make up the lost ticket revenue?
In an ideal world they would make up for the lost revenue by cutting their workforce and equipment used to enforce speed limits.
In the real world, they'll just petition for higher taxes. Or they'll actually start ticketing people for talking on cell phones, no seat belts, smoking in the car, etc...
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Jayvee
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a link for you:

http://www.crashprevention.org/index.php?go=donati ons_intro&wish4=y#wish4

They are proposing a law here in the US to have automakers cap the top speed of cars sold in the US.

Wasn't that same proposal already made back in the day of the 55 mph limit?

How many of you actually drove 55 ?
Sure as heck not me.
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Ulendo
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

there's some major flaws in that article, not the least of which has to do with 'speed limiters not currently regulated'. IIRC, US/Canadian spec bases the governor cut-in on the speed rating of the OE tires. I do think N america would benefit from annual mechanical inspections like the British MOT, but thats a whole seperate issue.

as far as speed limiters, they'd do better to slap a surcharge tax on 'high speed' vehicles, payable yearly along with the registration. Probably stop a lot of the new riders from buying into high HP race replicas, too ...

all comes down to the old adage: speed costs money - how fast do you want to go?
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats just what Britain needs! More laws and taxes.
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This story broke in MCN last week. It flies in the face of recent government promises to end the development and testing of their speed controlled motorcycle, which was proved to be dangerous in certain circumstances and further seen to be impossible to make safe given certain scenarios a rider might incur during the course of a journey.

Whatever this government is good or bad for, the motorist has suffered the most since Blair came to power 10 years ago.

Not only are we suffering under speed laws, it is almost certain that road pricing is coming in 2011, and it will be everywhere including rural areas where only satellite tracking can see the movements of your vehicle. That means your vehicle will carry an on board gizmo the satellite can track. There's another intrusion into are privacy, though the government are keen to point out the tracking will not be used for any other purpose. Yeah right. Give it time.

Parking is another huge issue currently. Local governments are now employing private companies to patrol the streets with their own traffic wardens. These companies are supposed to be cost effective, and generate a profit for local government coffers. Instead it is proving the admin costs are way above the costs of the previous long established traffic warden system. Ridiculous.

My wife was issued a parking ticket outside the house, a residential area, on New Years Day at 11 in the morning. I've appealed the ticket twice in the name of common sense given it's a national holiday, and twice the powers that be have ignored my appeals and increased the ticket fee from £30 paid within 14 days of issue to £60. As we have not paid in 28 days it is now £95. I have spoken to the local authority in the highest departments possible, and I'm still some 6 days past waiting for the boss of parking to call me, as I'm reliably informed he is going to.

France is a wonderful country.


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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Parking Wars

Rocket
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Kdan
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Y'all need to find a new land that is inhabited by a mostly peaceful, weaker, aboriginal people and take it over, rape it, pillage it and take it for your own. Then you can establish equal rights and impose new laws. Yeah, that's what you should do!
Your bill of rights sucks.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I'm going to start looking into asphalt and cement colored camoflauge camoflage camoflague camo to paint the car with, maybe the bike and helmet too. This should make them almost invisible to satellite cameras. In the mean time I'll be tuning up the bicycles which already have a functional built-in speed limiter - ME. ;)
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kdan we tried that a number of times, it never worked for long though.History repeats itself.
Kdan we tried that a number of times, it never worked for long though.History repeats itself.
Kdan we tried that a number of times, it never worked for long though.History repeats itself.
Kdan we tried that a number of times, it never worked for long though.History repeats itself.............................
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