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     Barker |
http://www.onewheeldrive.net/index.php?option=cont ent&task=view&id=667&Itemid=   Roehr Motorcycles Introduces American Superbike - the V-roehr 1130 By Roehr Motorcycles Press Sunday, 25 March 2007 With looks that are an amalgam of 999 and R1, the V-roehr 1130 superbike from Roehr Motorcycles is claims to be "a new generation of American motorcycle". The thing is after a market jaded but the Hyosung powered Fischer MRX 650, the Roehr sounds true, powered by the Harley-Davidson* Revolution* engine which currently resides in the V-Rod series of bikes. Finally a bike that dares to be all that Buell could be, namely liquid cooled, smooth and relatively powerful. From Cycle-Magazine.com 2007 V-Roehr 1130 Gallery -- Press Release Follows -- Powered by the Harley-Davidson* Revolution* engine, the V-roehr combines modern state-of-the-art engine technology with a race track inspired chassis design, resulting in a truly modern American sport bike. The design goal for the new superbike was simply to produce the fastest, most powerful, and finest handling machine, using the best American engine available. The Harley-Davidson* Revolution* engine was chosen due to it's superior power potential, modern high tech design and durable construction, allowing reliable high power output potentials. The engine is housed in a composite CrMo steel and aluminum composite beam frame, consisting of large diameter, internally ribbed steel main beams, bonded and bolted to billet machined aluminum swingarm pivot plates. This design uses these two materials in areas of the frame in which their material characteristics are best suited, yielding a stiff, light weight structure that provides excellent feedback and rider feel. This light, compact frame, combined with ideal chassis geometry and mass centralization provides an exceptionally responsive, stable and balanced handling dynamic. Side mounted radiators provide a forward engine position allowing a suitable wheelbase and ideal weight distribution. The V-roehr is also equipped with the finest chassis components available. Ohlins suspension, Brembo brakes, Marchesini wheels and beautiful bodywork in aerospace quality carbon- fiber. Designed and constructed by company founder Walter Roehrich, the V-roehr delivers the power, performance and beauty unmatched by current American sport bikes. Roehr Motorcycles will also offer a full line of high-performance parts and accessories, with engine kits producing up to 180hp. Production of the first 50 units is scheduled to begin in 2008, with pricing estimated at $39,995.00 USD. Escrow deposits to reserve your V-roehr will be accepted starting Aug.1st 2007 for 2008 delivery. Technical Specifications: Engine: Type 2 cylinder, liquid cooled, DOHC, Counterbalanced, 60deg, V-twin Displacement 1130cc Bore X Stroke 100mm X 72mm Compression ratio 11.3 / 1 Transmission 5 speed Clutch Wet, multi-plate, hydraulic actuation HP/Torque 120hp / 75lb/ft Final drive Chain Chassis: Type Steel/aluminum composite beam frame, 4130 steel/ 7075 aluminum Wheelbase 56 inches (1422mm) Rake/trail 23.5deg. / 97mm Seat height 31.5 inches Dry weight 425lbs. (193kg) Front suspension Ohlins 43mm fully adjustable upside-down fork with TiN Rear suspension Ohlins fully adjustable linkless monoshock Front Brakes 2 x 330mm semi-floating discs, radially mounted Brembo monobloc 4 piston calipers. (Production version) Rear brake 245mm single disc, with 2 piston Brembo caliper Frt. Wheel/tire 3.5 x 17 forged aluminum 10 spoke Marchesini, 120/70 ZR17 tire (Production version) Rear wheel/tire 6.0 x 17 forged aluminum 10 spoke Marchesini, 190/55 ZR17 tire (Production version) Fuel tank capacity 3.6 US gallons Specifications are subject to change without notice. Interested parties can visit www.roehrmotorcycles.com for more information and ordering instructions, or contact wroehrich@roehrmotorcycles.com to also inquire about Roehr Motorcycle's investment /partnership opportunities. Roehr Motorcycles LLC is a small volume manufacturer of exclusive American made high performance motorcycles. * "Harley-Davidson" and "Revolution" are registered trade names of the Harley-Davidson Motor Company Roehr Motorcycles LLC is in no way affiliated with the Harley-Davidson Motor Company. | ||
| Barker |
This is my favorite line, "a bike that dares to be all that Buell could be, namely liquid cooled, smooth and relatively powerful." | ||
| Jscott |
Barker you trumped me..  Not nearly as bad looking as his previous effort... One might even say surprisingly good-looking. http://www.roehrmotorcycles.com/ http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=28569 "Finally a bike that dares to be all that Buell could be, namely liquid cooled, smooth and relatively powerful." http://www.onewheeldrive.net/index.php?option=cont ent&task=view&id=667&Itemid= http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/03/25/roehr -motorcycles-v-rod-powered-v-roehr-1130/ | ||
| Jimidan |
hmmm...I thought Buell said that the V-rod motor was inappropriate for a sportbike. Something about it being too heavy, large, etc.. At $40 grand it isn't going to be much of a threat to Buell though. I am curious about HD selling this engine to an upstart company that openly slams Buell in its advertising. jimidan | ||
| Macbuell |
$40,000 for 120 HP at the crank when you can buy a Ducati 1098 with 160 HP at the crank for $15,000. I guess you'd really have to want to buy american to make that choice. Personally, if I wanted to buy a top end American sportbike, I'd wait to see what Buell has in the works before putting $40K down on the Roehr. | ||
| Glitch |
I doubt H-D is selling motors to these guys, although I'm fully prepared to be wrong. | ||
| Liquorwhere |
How else would they get the motors and be able to advertise that as their power plant without HD selling it too them and licensing it? That line about what Buell "could be" oh that's rich isn't it? Well I don't think I am gonna hold my breath until I see one on the street....$39k?? For what? I could have an XBRR for that...two ducati's, four GSXR 1000's, I just don't see it... | ||
| Court |
How'd their first 10 bikes hold up . . . ?  | ||
| Court |
By the way . . . I think it's a glorious looking bike and I wish them well. But . . I grow weary of those who tell us they are tall because others are small. "We don't suck because they do" . . . will never be a persuasive sales pitch. | ||
| Glitch |
How else would they get the motors and be able to advertise that as their power plant without HD selling it too them and licensing it? I can sell custom bikes using H-D engines all day long. I can even tell you they are H-D engines. Once I buy a bike, I can do whatever I want to with it, and tell you where the components came from. It's called "Fair Use" "Harley-Davidson" and "Revolution" are registered trade names of the Harley-Davidson Motor Company Roehr Motorcycles LLC is in no way affiliated with the Harley-Davidson Motor Company. | ||
| Greenlantern |
30 Grand extra for 20 extra ponies and Ohlins suspension?!?. Does a reanimated Abraham Lincoln deliver this sure to be icon of Americana to your door for that price???  I too wish them luck but "holy national debt Batman" with that $$$ tag. | ||
| Bomber |
I bewlieve it's in Germany where the statues preclude one from mentioning another brand in an ad -- while it's strange that the feds get involved in that kinda thing, it would keep silliness like the press release above to a dull roar -- there ARE those who will stand in line to buy this scoot, but I'm thinkin they will be doing so for the exclusivity factor, and not because of any comparison to Buells or other scoots | ||
| M1combat |
"hmmm...I thought Buell said that the V-rod motor was inappropriate for a sportbike. Something about it being too heavy, large, etc.. " They certainly did Jimmi  ... And Roehr says this... "Dry weight 425lbs. (193kg) " I believe both of them  . Also... That geometry is soooo last generation... . (Message edited by M1Combat on March 26, 2007) | ||
| Jaimec |
Dry weight MEANS DRY weight. Once you put in the liquid coolant, suspension fluid, battery acid, oil, transmission fluid AND gasoline that weight goes WAY up... | ||
| Blake |
Also the battery. The difference between "dry weight" and wet weight (fully fueled and ready to ride) is typically 50 pounds or more. | ||
| Glitch |
I'll bet those sneaky bastards used helium instead of air in the tires as well. | ||
| U4euh |
If Buell still has backing from HD, if any at all, could this be a peek at something of the 'Hypersport' that has been rumored? Really hard to beleive that HD would sell to a competing company, if you could call it that, and not incorprate something better into their own deep pockets. | ||
| Bdabuell |
seems odd that someone should get kudos for blatantly ripping off others' styling that tail section is hideous and, as has been said, why spend 39K? I can buy a 1098 or RSVFactory R for less that half and get twice the bike! | ||
| Ironhead1977 |
If a revolution buell became available for a vrod ish price I would be first to sign the credit app. | ||
| Phat_j |
i belive anyone can walk into a dealership and buy a v-rod motor, i know you can with the rest of the motors, sportster, twincam, evo, but only pretty sure on the revo. | ||
| 4cammer |
Hmmmm... looks like a current Duc that did not go to finishing school. I'd rather have my '07 XB9R. | ||
| Firemanjim |
Where have I seen that headlight set-up before?? Take a look at James 50cc Derbi we had at Bonneville 2003--- http://www.teamelves.com/Events/2003_event/galleri es/FMJ/pages/DSCN5737.html | ||
| Rocketman |
One thing Ducati do well from the very start is design. Sorry but I disagree. That does not look like it didn't get to Ducati finishing school. You know, like Ducati need a finishing school, lol. That said, I think it looks bloody good considering its American. No please, don't misinterpret that. Do we know who penned the design? Looks distinctly new style European flavoured to me. Rocket | ||
| Bomber |
I'll not comment on the design or looks of the bike, not being a fan of the oragami, transformer style bikes -- (everyone knows that the apogee of motorcycle styling was the Flying Merkle board trackers, yes?) actually, it DOES llok like an 90% done Ducati design -- course, Ducati wouldn't release it in that state | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
If it was priced at exactly half that price then I think they could do well. I have little doubt that Buell could build a better version of this bike and sell it in the $15-20,000 range. But I'd rather see a redesign of the revolution motor if it's going to be used in a sport bike. Still even with all that, if offered a $20K V-Rod powered 180hp hypersport... I'd rather have a XB12? and $10K to spend on upgrades. | ||
| Jayvee |
This is the kind of bike people buy BECAUSE it costs $40,000, not because it's "worth it". Conspicuous consumption, and all that. The same with a $60,000 chopper, it's not really just about the performance, or even just the looks. It has to cost a lot, too. I guess they're buying exclusivity. | ||
| Liquorwhere |
I like the styling of it just fine, although Flying Merkles are cool..all board trackers are cool to me, it is not the styling that is a turn off, it is the comments about the Buells that turn me off, I like all motorcycles really, just don't want to own all of them, I just think it is a bit rude and I agree with Court, saying we are good cause this products sucks...well that just doesn't seem to be very sound at all, why even put that name in your marketing? The bike is just fine for me, the price is too high, but overall I could ride one, but I just can't seem to like any company that bashes another company to prove they are somehow better....just writing " a smooth, well balanced V-twin powered sportbike" would have been enough for me...personally. all comments are of course are just MHO.... | ||
| Jscott |
Just to be clear, I haven't read anything that Walter Roehrich has said disparaging towards Buell. The above editorial quotes were taken from individual Motorcycle News websites, not from Roehr's press release. | ||
| Macbuell |
Umm, it says by Roehr Motorcycle Press. That sure sounds like it is coming from Roehr. | ||
| Jscott |
Wrong. It was in the preceding paragraph, prior to "-- Press Release Follows --". |
