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     Wolfridgerider |
WASHINGTON - Suspected 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed confessed to the beheading of American journalist Daniel Pearl and a central role in 30 other attacks and plots in the U.S. and worldwide that killed thousands of victims, said a revised transcript released Thursday by the U.S. military. "I decapitated with my blessed right hand the head of the American Jew, Daniel Pearl, in the city of Karachi, Pakistan," Mohammed is quoted as saying in a transcript of a military hearing at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, released by the Pentagon I couldn't remember who or what Daniel Pearl looked like so I did a Yahoo Image search and the first thing I saw was his head laying on the floor. There is a special place for "people" like Khalid and I hope he gets to go there soon. | ||
| Djkaplan |
The guy is slime, that's for sure... but I think he's copping to much more than he actually did. His goose was already cooked, it seems like he's just doing his damnedest to create more confusion with the ongoing investigations. I hope he goes somewhere special, too. Hopefully, the virgins waiting for him there will be 72 male martyrs that came before him. | ||
| Swordsman |
Isn't it sad that these guys do this crap because they think they'll be rewarded with a truckload of inexperienced women? How pathetic and insecure is that? You know the only reason a guy ever wants a virgin is so there's nothing to compare his performance to. And they're willing to murder people over and over for it??? That's pretty f'd up. I admittedly have a Christian view of the whole thing, but I like the image that my belief conjures up for their afterlife. I can see the dude lying there, being surrounded by all these hot young girls, and he's gettin' all excited. But then suddenly, the chicks ain't so hot. Matter o' fact, they're kinda' scary looking, with obscenely sharp teeth. Cue the flames.  ~SM | ||
| Rainman |
He should be summarily shot. Not as in capital punishment but as in protecting the rest of society. They put down vicious dogs, don't they? | ||
| Old_man |
Confessions after torture may or may not be true. If details were included in the confession that only the people involved could know - then there is credence. But without this, I would have much doubt. After torture you may confess to the Lindbergh kidnapping. | ||
| Djkaplan |
I agree with Old_man. I'm not saying the guy deserves any leniency, but he couldn't have been involved in everything he admitted to. I have nothing but news reports to base this on, so take whatever I say with that understanding. | ||
| Old_man |
If someone confesses to something he didn't do - the guilty go free. I don't want to see this happen. I was in charge of a homicide unit for 23 years. Many times people have confessed to murders who had nothing to do with the crime.- They had mental problems that were not always obvious. A coerced confession was never a viable option - not if you want to find the truth. If you convict an innocent person the guilty go free. | ||
| Davegess |
The America I beleive in does not torture people. I am pretty sure torture of one sort or another was involved here. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
The America I believe in does not torture people. I am pretty sure torture of one sort or another was involved here. Don't call it torture then, call it payback. I know if Daniel Pearl was my brother or that 100 year old woman in NYC that got beat up and then mugged was my Grandmother, I could serve up a long dose of "Payback" | ||
| Mortarmanmike120 |
Torture, no torture, open hearings, closed hearings....blah, blah, blah. It doesn't make much difference. If he had turned himself in of his own free will, provided 100 eyewitnesses of multiple nationalities, videotaped himself with the knife... there would still be people who said he was coerced by the evil american torture machine. Much like the people who think the apollo moon landings were conducted on a sound stage. There is no way to reason/argue/debate with those types. There is no way that 100% of the population will believe his confession. It is far easier to blame the government. Easy, pat response that doesn't require much thought. Blame America/government/authority first. To those who would decry his interrogation: what would be your burden of proof? By what standard would you EVER accept that justice was done? Enlighten us to your perfect system of investigation that would allow you to scry the motives and actions of our nations enemies. Don't keep it a secret. How would YOU find and punish the guilty? Ask them politely and if they don't respond ask them politely again. Tell their mother's that they "don't play well with others?" Revoke their Blockbuster card? Grant them immunity for all past and future crimes in exchange for their testimony? I personally don't know what transpired during his incarceration. But neither does anyone else on this site. Maybe he was tortured. I don't know. The point is that those who claim it was coercion have no idea either. Speculation only. And that's how it will always be, because none of us will ever actually know. The America I believe in doesn't sit on it's hands waiting to get F*CKED UP again. The America I believe in doesn't question itself and it's motives so much that it is lulled into inaction. The America I believe in would not be satisfied with "oh well, we tried, I hope we don't get attacked again." The America I believe in says "NEVER AGAIN - you kill one of ours, we kill YOU. PERIOD." The America I believe in seems to be out to lunch. | ||
| Swordsman |
Damn, Mortar, you nearly brought a tear to my eye. After seeing "300" last night and now reading this, I'm feelin' downright patriotic! ~SM | ||
| Bomber |
I'd like to think that my America is better than the people we're fighting this does NOT mean a continual turning of the other cheek, but it DOES mean being sure you are in the right before acting As Mike sez, I have no idea what transpired while the individual in question was being held -- if he's guilty, he should pay the price -- if he's not, he shouldn't star chamber tactics will often call your methods into question, fairly or not -- that is but one benefit of having an open system, in which the steps from arrest to punishement are auditable | ||
| Old_man |
Does anyone really believe that this man is behind EVERY act of terror he confessed to? (for him, it's taking credit!) If so, we can forget about Osama and the rest of them. - We have the one responsible. | ||
| Ryker77 |
Old_man the American people have been brainwashed and are so scared that they need to belive that there is just one or two evil people in the whole world. Scared people can and do talk themselves into anything. | ||
| Bomber |
Old_man -- I don't have the data to have much of an opinion -- good point, though -- he'd have to be a very busy guy to have done all he claims Ryker -- in the very strongest terms, amen | ||
| Ryker77 |
The America I believe in doesn't sit on it's hands waiting to get F*CKED UP again. The America that I know has spent 400,000,000,000.00+ dollars on ANOTHER country. Yes some people did on one day of one year 9/11. But we are siting on our hands as we die everyday from drug abuse, poor medical system, bad roads, no train crossing guards, etc etc. A few hundred thousand Americans could be saved each year with the amount of money we a throwing away in Iraq. The America I believe in doesn't question itself and it's motives so much that it is lulled into inaction. One should question every aspect about spending nearly half-trillion American tax payer dollars. By wasting money in Iraq there is less Amerinca police, firemen, medical, school etc etc I call that INACTION. BTW We had plenty of action when We put Sadaam into power and Helped train Al-Quida. In years to come we will find out that while we thought we were training and equiping Iraq police that we actually trained the new Enemy The America I believe in would not be satisfied with "oh well, we tried, I hope we don't get attacked again." We tried what? What is the weeks goal for Iraq" Becuase I had thought all we were supposed to do is do away with Sadaam and find those WMDS. In the meantime how many other countries now have nukes? The America I believe in says "NEVER AGAIN - you kill one of ours, we kill YOU. PERIOD." I agree lets kill them all. As a prior Marine "blood make grass grow"! But the question is kill WHO? Who should we kill? } The America I believe in seems to be out to lunch. Yes America is out to lunch. The citizens are soo feed up with the current failed Government that they don't vote. Just think about this if you had 400,000,000,000.00 to spend on our country or another country what would you do? How many Cops, Judges, Doctors could America have trained and employeed? How many border patrol agents, how big of a fence, how secure are our ports? | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Ryker, Hate to disillusion you but if all that money had been in the US coffersinstead, the liberals would have squandered it on more failed social programs and the conservatives would have figured out a way to keep it for themselves. Nothing good would have come of it except "pork barrel" politics as usual. BTW, Our current "Failed Government" has kept MANY planned terrorist events from occurring. Both here and abroad. JMHO Brad | ||
| Yttikcat |
Ryker - thank you for posting the view that a lot of us have. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
The president should have him beheaded and the head sent to mahmoud ahmadinejad courtesy of the president himself. | ||
| Ryker77 |
Hate to disillusion you but if all that money had been in the US coffersinstead, the liberals would have squandered it on more failed social programs and the conservatives would have figured out a way to keep it for themselves. Nothing good would have come of it except "pork barrel" politics as usual. Both political parties waste money on BS programs. One could arguee that this was in Iraq is the biggest barrel of Pork in the history of the USA. I am niether a liberal or a conservative. I am an American and tend to think like the founding fathers. Try reading some history books and less main stream media. And even if the money wasn't spent in Iraq it would have been wasted,,, thats a really 2nd grade type playground arguement. Becuase money wasted is money wasted. Wrong is Wrong. But giving money to your enemies is STUPID wrong. . BTW, Our current "Failed Government" has kept MANY planned terrorist events from occurring. Both here and abroad. Here and abroad. ??? Might should look what a terrorist is. Becuase a good majority of the DAILY KILLINGS in Iraq is terrorism. Yes, we have been lucky that we've not been attached on our soil again. But I would wager good money that we are creating alot of enemies in Iraq right now. Every Iraq man we kill in Iraq has family all it takes is one young son to grow up with American hate to carry out the next attach in 10years or even 20 years. For many many years we will be dealing with the enemies we have created. Either kill them all now, let them kill each other, or just protect our borders. | ||
| CJXB |
Does anyone really believe that this man is behind EVERY act of terror he confessed to? No, I too think we tend to want to feel it's one person and we got him so now we can rest easy. Nothing is that simple. | ||
| Rainman |
Going into Iraq is a lot like this woman I dated once. It seemed like such a good idea at the time but within a year or two, it was nothing but fighting and bloodshed. That, too, was hard to get out of without a boiled bunny. | ||
| Eboos |
Rainman, I too have had a boiled bunny or two. | ||
| Jimidan |
"It could take 6 days, or 6 weeks, or 6 months, but no more than that." Donald Rummy in the lead-up to the Iraq invasion. We will never really know if Khalid Sheikh Mohammed had anything to do with any of the atrocities that he has "confessed" to...as those in charge have told us so many lies, who can trust anything they say? One thing that I do know is that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed needs a new head shot...that one looks like a John Belushi/Nick Nolte clone after a few weeks of shooting speedballs up his arm. jimidan | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I've got a head shot for him.........  | ||
| Aesquire |
"It could take 6 days, or 6 weeks, or 6 months, but no more than that." How many days DID it take to defeat the Iraqi army? Not even close to 1/2 of 6 months. How many years before ANYONE admits that since then, we've been fighting the invasion of a freed Iraq by Iran & Syria, backed by the $$$ from China, & oil sales? ( Chinese $$$ from US, mostly, for crappy toys, tools, etc. ) The fact that the allies are eliminating terrorist %^&&'s by the dozens in Iraq, ( as opposed to New York, or your home town ) still doesn't mean we are doing the job as it should be done. We should never torture. Period. The cop out of the Clinton Admin., that they were not, since they sub-contracted it, is contaminated ( not even pure ) B.S. The current admin. should have stopped the practice. I'm very unhappy that they have not. Terrorists should be treated as they were in more enlightened times. As pirates, and slavers, to be destroyed. Period. I loved the snapshot of the scum.... taken at his capture. I thought it looked like a cross between Nolte's mug shot & that porn star. | ||
| Rainman |
Dude, if that guy looks anything like a porn star I'm going celibate! | ||
| Frankfast |
You're still fighting the Iraqi army! | ||
| Jimidan |
US Military estimates indicate that we are currently fighting >10% foreign fighters in Iraq, many of whom are Sunnis who were former Saddam military. Defeat of the military was never the question though, as we knew it was the Flintstones that we were attacking. Irregardless, the point was that it has all been a pack of lies, so how can we trust anything that comes out of these closed tribunals. I think you are referring to Ron Jeremy as the porn star in question. He is the "everyman" of the porn industry. jimidan | ||
| Ryker77 |
"How many years before ANYONE admits that since then, we've been fighting the invasion of a freed Iraq by Iran & Syria, backed by the $$$ from China, & oil sales? " How many years before ANYONE admites that since then, we've been fighting the people we train, supply and give money to? Many of the Iraqi securty forces and Iraqi Army are the ones taking part in the death squads. Current levels of violance are down because we've staffed Americans with them to babysit and ensure they are not running around killing others. Time and time again - study after study shows very few foreign fighters in Iraq. |
