| Author | Message | ||
     Jamhamm |
ok so do i break the $300 out and get a 'real oil cooler' or do i slap the $30 cool collar on my filter and call it a day? s1w | ||
| Bigblock |
real oil cooler | ||
| Jamhamm |
so it's kansas city - spring summer days can range from 80 clear up to 110 what kind of temp diff are we talking with an oil cooler? -sau | ||
| Jayvee |
I can't help but wonder, if they really needed an oil cooler, wouldn't they come with one from the factory? Oh yeah, I guess they do now ! The XBs I mean... | ||
| Oldog |
Jam & Jv I have a temp gage on the return line from the engine, oil temps go up and down with load and speed, the cooler helps, the aluminum collar on the oil filter to my thinking is a waste of your money, jagg designs sells a cooler, I wonder if the XB cooler could be adapted, the jaggs have an adaptor that attaches to the filter mount on the tubers, the filter then attaches to it. check the KV there was a discussion, also I added an oil pressure gage too, if you are interested ask I will post it again or give a link... | ||
| Bigblock |
I have the Jagg cooler, it has made a noticeable difference. The bike runs noticeably cooler, I don't have a temp gauge, but you can notice a difference in temp and the way it runs when you turn that cooler on on a hot day. And a BIG reduction in pinging if you get stuck in traffic on a hot day. Basically cured the rattles on my bike in those situations. I would definitely also recommend switching to synthetic oil, if you haven't done so already. About all those filter covers are good for is falling off at the wrong time and presenting an obstacle to your riding buddy chasing ya!  | ||
| Bigblock |
I also run the tall Dyna filter, you can usually find the black one at the dealer. Adds a little extra oil capacity, if you haven't switched already. | ||
| Loki |
From someone running a JAGG with the bypass switch. I have a temp sender reading the temp at the outlet of the bag before it hits the engine. I like my cooler for those warmer days. makes a noticable difference. Also the biggest difference for me was the XB heads and cyls. Those alone were good for a 15-20 degree drop in the oill temp on my S1. With the cooler I can regulate the inbound temp right around 190 degrees. (Message edited by loki on April 01, 2006) | ||
| Ryker77 |
try using the ford part number f1-a1 oil filter. Its huge. | ||
| Jimincalif |
What about the billet finned cylinders that go under the oil filter, like this: http://www.americansportbike.com/shop/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?usr=51F3761484&rnd=4140 695&rrc=N&affl=&cip=63.226.229.150&act=&aff=&pg=prod&ref=PROD157&cat=&catstr= Seems mechanically simpler and less prone to things like cooler line or connector failure... | ||
| Davefl |
Oldog.. An XB cooler can be adapted.. I have done it.. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/81131.html?1093542951#POST27 5843 | ||
| Aldaytona |
Jagg cooler kit and Dyna long/black filter, bolts right up and looks good too. | ||
| Panic |
"billet finned cylinders that go under the oil filter" That takes the phrase "rip off" to another galaxy. A piece of aluminum stock with 2 threads: $200. You could stack 5 oil filter adapter bases together to the same effect for about $75.00. ...but they wouldn't be billet, would they? | ||
| Panic |
The adapt to the XB looks nice, but you have to be careful with the lines. If the cooler is placed with both lines at the bottom, it may trap an air bubble that won't purge (part of the cooler is full of air). No way to bleed this out unless you tap into the top of the cooler and install a Shrader valve, etc. IDK if it will stay primed after install with the lines below. Normal instructions are "outlet at the highest point". Also important that the scoop is far enough away from the chassis to be exposed to normal airstream - sometimes even 1/2" is enough to make a big change. Just tie a 1" piece of string at a mount point ending in a nut covered with foam or bubble wrap (no marks). Get up to cruising speed. If it floats straight back you're probably good. If it sags or flutters, try another point. Look for more on eBay: http://tinyurl.com/jjfq5 (Message edited by panic on April 03, 2006) | ||
| Davefl |
Ok, how does the XB's fair with the priming of the oil coolers? Mine is mounted in the same orientation as it would be on an xb. | ||
| Chasespeed |
Is there a "generic" small oil cooler like that for Bike somewhere that I cant find?? The smallest one I can find with my rescources, is for a Honda/Acura.. I am not really willin gto spend 130 on a XB cooler,. and the honda cooler is gonna be too big... And as faras bypass..well, moving back to Corpus Christi...adn i really dotnt need to owrry about it NOT warming up... chase | ||
| Sleez |
dr. Steve mounted a universal Power Steering cooler near the oil tank on his S3, works great! | ||
| Oldog |
Davefl: man that Is great! I wanted to add some braided cover hose there, I may have to replace the jagg soon as the clutch cable has been wearing a dimple in the radiator, I like the xb arrangement with the scoop better. great job, by the time I finished with the temp & press gages, Aaomys dash, and the cooler I have 600 or 700$ Your job is sanitary! If I were worried about FOD and the cooler can't you get an adaptor that will allow you to buypass the radiator by connecting the hoses? | ||
| Chevysolid |
BigBlock, what year or part number would that Dyna filter be? I have heard that mentioned before and am thinking about doing that on My X1 along with switching to synthetic | ||
| Bomber |
Chevy -- ya shouldn't need a P/N -- just ask for a Dyna filter -- same OD as the stocker, just longer (available in black, doncha know, as Chrome Don't Get Ya Home) | ||
| Chasespeed |
I run the Ford FL1A or the FL300 equivalent filters... I tend to stick to K&N, but thats my choice(has a hole for safety wiring it already).. and if you know the filter for the ford V8s, ITS HUGE... Chase | ||
| Djkaplan |
I saw a homebrewed oil cooler and a Lockhart thermostat tied into the oil-pump pressure hose on M1a65's 2000 M2. No adaptor necessary. The installation was efficient and made a lot more sense than the way Jagg does it. I may try it myself minus the thermostat for an upcoming trackday. | ||
| Jersey_thunder |
slap the $30 cool collar on my filter and call it a day? I bought the HD alum. collar..slides right over the filter...clean..easy..and it works. JT | ||
| Ara |
Jimincalif and Panic - I've used the BilletCool oil filter on my '97 S3 since 1998. It was prone to overheating in high summer and especially under high traffic conditions. Since I installed the BilletCool the problem has not recurred, not even once. (Message edited by ara on April 09, 2006) | ||
| Djkaplan |
How can you tell when your bike is overheating? | ||
| Panic |
Re: "Since I installed the BilletCool the problem has not recurred, not even once" What I objected to was not the idea, but the outrageous price for something with no moving parts easily made on a lathe. | ||
| Bigblock |
Chevy- What Bomber said, and definitely go synthetic! You'll notice the difference! | ||
| Ara |
Djkaplan, I experienced profound symptoms while I was on TDY in the Washington DC heat and humidity. There was a lot of stop-and-go and it was really horribly hot, and the motor made some unwelcome sounds that it doesn't normally make. Panic, No moving parts is a GOOD thing - there's that much less to fail. How many moving parts do you want in an oil cooler? :-) | ||
| Essthreetee |
With regards to the JAGG cooler...in looking at the website picture http://www.jagg.com/buell.htm It seems like the lines would be in the way for changing the oil...is it? | ||
| Bigblock |
the setup I have, there is no interference from the lines or adapter, it is a very clean setup  |
