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Blackbelt
| Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 04:46 pm: |
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I don't know about you, but i think buell is trying to forget about the tube frame past. Have you seen the website lately? It is rediculous how much they are moving away from the tube frames, i myself just bought a 2002 lightning and it seems like the add-ons are getting fewer and fewer. Don't get me wrong i think the new bikes ROCK! but come on, don't stop the add ons for the other bikes just cause you arn't making them... I KNOW MANY PEOPLE that are upset at the fact that the parts that they were saving for or want for their tube frame bikes are ending up being discontinued.... I MEAN COME ON!!! Let me know if you agree or dissagree... I might be way off base.. but you decide... adam |
Rick_A
| Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 09:06 pm: |
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Last time I looked (a few weeks ago) they still had most of the accessories and all the Pro Series parts for the tubers listed. Has that changed? |
Newfie_Buell
| Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 09:48 pm: |
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I have noticed that the parts ofered on the site are more geared for the New Frame Machines. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 10:51 pm: |
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Be ashamed be very ashamed Just remember where Buell left off in makin stuff some one will pick up. |
Darthane
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 09:53 am: |
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When was the last time they produced anything 'new' add-on wise for the tubers anyways? Of course the only new products they're going to produce are for current production. It makes no sense to invest in new products for obsolete (read - out of production) motorcycles when you already make all the parts for them you're going to. As to what Spidey said - I doubt it. I don't see much in the way of 'new' stuff for the tubers, although I seriously doubt that anyone will simply stop making their aftermarket parts for the bikes anytime soon, seeing as tubers currently make up probably 85% of the Buells out there. Bryan |
Rick_A
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 10:02 am: |
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Yeppers, as long as the aftermarket keeps shelling out trick parts...what's it matter what Buell does? Buell stopped making anything new for tube framers years ago...unless those lame covers count. |
Wruffus
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 10:42 am: |
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My problem is the sudden large jump on parts prices. Anyone know why this happened? Harley ownership? Discontinued bikes? |
Lake_Bueller
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 11:11 am: |
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Wruffus...I was told it's because of the discontinued bikes. I had to replace the front fender on my S3T. The parts guy at the dealer told be a new fender was around $200. About 1 1/2 years ago, that same fender was only around $60. I bought a used one on ebay for $35. I think you'll see more people buying used parts because of this. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 11:27 am: |
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The only thing i am truly pissed about is the total removal of things like Pro Series Plug wires, intakes, general hop up stuff and the saddle bags. WTF!! Also last year they started to sell the whole engine you could get the 91 HP carb or the 101 FI model. Now you can only buy a Blast motor. |
Davegess
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 11:30 am: |
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Buying complete motors from HD has alway been dependent on manufacturing capacity. If they have extra motors than they will sell them complete to the customer. I would think that the only Buell engine they are running on the line these days are XB and Blast motors. |
Mikej
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 11:34 am: |
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Are the items removed from only the public accessable web site, or from dealership accessability as well? Are those parts still listed in the P&A catalog, or gone from there as well. I haven't meandered over to the H-D corporate web site lately, so I don't know what's there for "older" bikes, but web sites tend to focus on the company's latest releases, and last year's stuff tends to either get archived or dumped. It would be nice if Buell.com had some archive pages, sort of like they used to have. They could link to it and not have to really maintain it since old stuff doesn't change much. Anyway, probably just the same old comments many have said hundreds of times before. We're just customers, what do we matter. And if a relative out of state wonders what kind of bike I have I just point them to the DCBRAG pages instead of the Buell.com pages since the history there is so much more complete and user friendly. Just some comments and opinions from an end user. bye. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 12:10 pm: |
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Alot of stuff has been made obselete or unavailable to our dealership |
Mavinwy
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 12:24 pm: |
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Heck, I am not sure some dealerships have their heads on straight in the first place. I bent one of the stock foot pegs on my Blast, I moved the one from the rear to the front and went down to order a new one. The parts guy said it would be ordered. After a copuple of weeks, no part.... I want down to see what the deal was, they told me the bike was discontinued.... I pointed out the 3 BRAND NEW ones on the sales floor to him and the sales manager. Had the part 3 days later..... I know that they are discontinuing the tube framed bikes...OK, but the Normal Breakage parts (footpegs, turn signal stalks, clutch handles etc) are still made SOMEPLACE..... |
Turnagain
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 12:59 pm: |
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Obsolete? Paid for two spare side-stand switches (1 for someone else [I'm not too paranoid]) and then come to find they are now obsolete. Don't know how they can do that on a part so prone to failure. Any dealer-wise folks know of a replacement or what the whole story is? MikeJ, been meaning to update that History page. Let me know if you've got a nice picture of your bike and I'll post it for you & your kin. Into slightly higher-res ones, like the one I posted last night. Steve(2) |
Spiderman
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 01:28 pm: |
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Well Mav I was refering to accesories, alot of stuff has been superceeded IE foot pegs, shifters etc. The Co. it self has to supply those for a nuber of years, but they do not have to supply non conforming parts like the Pro series line or saddle bags. Just parts that the bike will need to run. |
Mikej
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 03:15 pm: |
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Steve, I'll see what I can do. We got a new camera a while back but haven't had time to load the software yet to go with it, so no downloads or uploads. I want to get the camera working for Sunday if I can. "Please wait for the page to load before posting" Okay, okay, 1...2...3...4...go |
Two_Buells
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 03:47 pm: |
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mfg are required to make spare parts for 10 years...... |
Dave
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 04:07 pm: |
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Mike .... gotta reference/law on that? I need it DAve |
Mikej
| Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 04:18 pm: |
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DAve, There's a great big book that some libraries have listing all or most of the requirements at the Federal level for terms of continued manufacture of spare parts for motor vehicles. At least there was many years ago when I was playing around with a car-ish design I was working on on my own. I couldn't afford to build one, let alone several crash specimins, so it went by the wayside. Anyway, you might try starting at the US DOT site and see if you can burrow your way down to the reference you seek. Warning though, there's as many alphabet soup divisions in the DOT as there are in the legislative and legal branches. Leave bread crumbs or a string if you dive in to help find your way back into the light of day. Maybe start here at the NHTSA site. |
Rockbiter1
| Posted on Friday, October 04, 2002 - 12:56 am: |
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I would like to confirm TwoBuell's comment, I asked my dealer (Shreveport/Bossier HD)about parts availablility for the 4 2002 tube frame bikes on the floor, told me that motorcycle manufacturers are required to maintain parts support for 10 years. |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, October 04, 2002 - 03:40 am: |
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Steve, Your parts guy probably tried to order the pre-recall switch which, yes, is obsolete, duh! Tell him to order you the new version. That would be recall number 0813. |
Turnagain
| Posted on Friday, October 04, 2002 - 12:19 pm: |
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Blake, You may be right. The parts guy I dealt with was more interested in giving me my money back rather than digging into the story on an 'obsolete' part. I'll try to work through it. Thanks, Steve(2) |
Court
| Posted on Friday, October 04, 2002 - 12:33 pm: |
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Steve: Say these words..."Dr. David Chall @ 785-234-6174" |
Turnagain
| Posted on Friday, October 04, 2002 - 01:30 pm: |
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Topeka! -- I'd say those words if I had the invoice with the part number they sold me in my hand. If I don't get anywhere tomorrow, I'll say those words soon. thanks, Steve(2)
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Court
| Posted on Friday, October 04, 2002 - 01:49 pm: |
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Let me know if you are seeking a Y.0802.T or a Y.0800.T. Book shows your bike should be a Y.0800.T, but I can't imagine there's any difference. They are both $11.15 each. Court |
Turnagain
| Posted on Friday, October 04, 2002 - 02:21 pm: |
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ah so, they must want to give me my money back (because I paid $16 for two) and then get more in return. their plot thickens..... it's a '97 if that helps. Tx, Steve(2) |
Court
| Posted on Friday, October 04, 2002 - 02:30 pm: |
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>>>it's a '97 if that helps. That may explain the difference....I'd guessed '99. See...that always happens to me! |
Java
| Posted on Saturday, October 05, 2002 - 02:20 am: |
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Hey guys, I'm an auto dealer, and that 10 year thing is an urban myth. They are required by law to make spare parts only until the last unit sold is out of warranty. Now, if they have any brains, they'll make common parts for much longer than that. And if the dealer was smart, he would employ a Parts Mgr smart enought to carry stuff like turn signals, mirrors, and footpegs, instock, for much MUCH longer. |
Y2k01x1
| Posted on Saturday, October 05, 2002 - 03:18 am: |
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Was at the dealers' today inquiring into stock breather bolts for my '01 X1 [PN 29268-94YA]. Parts guy said the computer indicated the part is "obsolete." Ten years? Last unit sold out of warranty? Not even. I wonder what type of breather bolts the Sportster's use. Bet they ain't OBSOLETE! Bob |
Loki
| Posted on Saturday, October 05, 2002 - 05:39 am: |
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Bob, on the computer that so called obsolete part(Buell number) had a new HD part number. Parts guy's eyes were not open..... Case in point, I stopped by the dealer to order the spring loaded peg kits for my S1. I used the numbers from the KV. One parts person(new) looked them up and said they were obsolete. As he was telling me this another(veteran) told him to look closer and there it was. A HD number that had superceded the Buell number. |
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