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Justjoe
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As an update, By owner
69 :D (Sorry couldn't help myself) satisfied
31 unsatisfied

31% of respondents are not satisfied with their Buell motorcycle.

If I were in charge of Buell this would concern me greatly. But I'm not, so that doesn't mean anything.

JustJoe
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Newfie_Buell
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with X1glider,

Have two counts with the first one just being a count to determine if the owner is satisfied with the overall Buell product, the second count to show the reliability issues of the bikes. And I am still laughing at that "tallywacker" comment.

Personally I will buy another at some point, however the S1 will never leave my possesssion as it is just way too much fun. Would love to add a S2 to the collection of one.

As for reliability, if my bike breaks tomorrow i will just fix the bloody thing and move on. If I am stranded just push it or get it towed, with minimal tools these bikes are servicable almost anywhere. Thats one of the reasons why I purchased one. Chances are it broke because I was doing something to break it.

X1 my 6 yr old is pretty handy with a keyboard, How much are you paying? Keep in mind the value your getting by hiring a Canadian considering the value of our dollar.

I guess when it come to riding everyone agrees, then again I have only rode with one other Buell as there are only 2 of us here on the island.

Oh yeah, Rocket,(this is way off topic) I am a bit puzzled with the ignition timing on my 89 Saab 900s I will e-mail you as your a bit of an expert on those things.
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Cro13
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1997 S3 very satisfied
2003 XB9R very satisfied

Carter Smith, Bristol PA
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Chibueller
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you get bonus points for being:
'very'
or
'VERY'
Satisfied or Unsatisfied.

Leave them off
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Sarodude
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We're making a dangerous assumption that the respondents of this survey are representative of the general Buell owner / former owner population.

That's the only thing I take issue with here. Do we have more COMPLAINERS on the board? Do we have more die-hard LOVERS / TOLLERATORS?

Let's all keep in mind that this is nothing more than a survey of BadWebers (and maybe SACBORG and LABusas folks). As diverse as we may be, people who expend a great deal of time / energy posting anything on a web site are probably outside the norm.

I'm not discounting this issue. Just hoping it stays in perspective.

-Saro
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Jrh
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2000 M2...unsatisfied...major engine problem at 350 miles,now that i fixxed it i'm having a REAL good time,i knew this was an HD engine when i got it+what kind of relatively low power output i was buying with this type engine.If not for my freak???out of round cylinder problem this bike would be(with all my other $6000 or so mods i've made)my idea of my perfect American hot rod type bike.Nothing but cool.BUT,the question was am i satisfied,no i was not(thanks to this sites K.V. i've made the bike into what i like)when it blows up i might just not fix it,maybe put a glass top on it and use it as a table(seriously,its almost art)
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Do we have more die-hard LOVERS
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That would be me :)
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2001 P3 Blast; 8000 miles - Satisfied
2003 XB9R Firebolt; 5600 miles - Completely Satisfied
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Snail
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake, the topic of discussion was concerned with disatisfied/satisfied owners. Not reliability of the bikes. Even going by the owners and not the bikes this survey is skewed, obviously theres more disatisfied owners that sold, quit, and left the commmunty and rode off into the sunset.

You can extrapolate, or interpolate, or whatever, and if you are happy with your methodolgy so be it, but I for one am not whacking my tally.

Paul
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Ccryder
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sparky 1999 S3T: 25,000 miles (frustrated) satisfied.
Stripe'r 2000 X-1: 30,000 miles Very, Very satisfied.

Neil S. X-3

Time2Ride (lunch)
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Blackbelt
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

quote:

Do we have more die-hard LOVERS

ME TOO!!! there are a bunch of loyal buell fans out there. In anything there will be lovers and haters of a product. that doesn't make it a bad product. Buell is a bike that takes a certain rider, and likes for a bike. I myself fit into that nitch perfectly, just like others that ride with me. Those that are so into their buells, GO BACK TO THE RICE BURNERS! what ever bike you like or dislike ride it cause you love it, or don't.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2000 M2 (new), 17,000 miles = satisfied
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Redstripe
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Neil,

just for the record:

2000 x1 (bought 2001):-riding/satisfied.
-quality control, dealerships/less then unsatisfied.

Jilles-Sicco.

-honest opinion-
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Redstripe
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW, 15.000 mls.
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Ralph
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

'97 S3T 36,000 miles - very satisfied
'96 S1 11,000 miles -very satisfied
'96 S1 8,000 miles - very satisfied
'98 S1 12,000 miles - very satisfied

bighairyralph
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Eeeeek
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blackbelt:


Quote:

ME TOO!!! there are a bunch of loyal buell fans out there. In anything there will be lovers and haters of a product. that doesn't make it a bad product. Buell is a bike that takes a certain rider, and likes for a bike. I myself fit into that nitch perfectly, just like others that ride with me. Those that are so into their buells, GO BACK TO THE RICE BURNERS! what ever bike you like or dislike ride it cause you love it, or don't.




Ahhh, to be young and naive. I once sounded just like you.

Vik
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Mark_In_Ireland
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Newfie, Try http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/bb/900/ and do a search or ask...very knowledgeable site. I use it all the time.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Current tally by bike is 127 satisfied to 34 unsatisfied (I counted Jilles as unsatisfied.)

Current tally by owner is 75 satisfied to 33 unsatisfied

Like Vik said, either way you look at it, the unsatisfieds are way too high.
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Dynarider
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Blake for actually confirming that you agree the numbers are way too high. Now if only Buell saw it the same way & decides to actively do something about it.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


Quote:

Posted by Snail
You can extrapolate, or interpolate, or whatever, and if you are happy with your methodology so be it, but I for one am not whacking my tally.


Paul,
No, you are whacking MY tally!

Besides, I hear that it takes just one cute little BC redhead and you get all whacked.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna,
I think Buell definitely sees it the same way. No more tube frames. Tally the unsatisfied Blast and XB owners. The future is looking MUCH better.
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Dynarider
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree that Buell has done wonders with the new bikes. I just wish they would treat us owners of the old framers with some sympathy. Give us a hell of a deal on a trade in, something, anything.
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Pilk
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2000 X-1(new) 11,000mi SATISFIED

PILK
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Bkw_Bmw
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1995 S2 (used) 14,000mi Dissatisfied
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Newfie_Buell
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake,

Be careful how often you keep posting the numbers, any more than three times and you may be bordering on whacking your tally.

Mark in Ireland - thanks for the tip.
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Jst
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

'99 Em Too 12,000
BTW this is my second '99 Em Too

Bike-More than satisfied
Dealer(s)-unsatisfied
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Roc
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

S1 - '97 - Used, Satisfied - Probably 19,000 miles

S2 - '95 - Used, Satified - 9995 miles
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

00 m2 totaled by a drunk driver...very friigin satified....8k
98S1 traded for xb9r...8k loved everyfriggin min..and then some
03 xb9r...4k...love it to death...can't wait to get on it evertime....
but I know there are other bikes out there and I want so many....see I am a motorcyclist....not somebody that rides bikes...they all got somethin special about them and thats the deal...I've owned 25 motorcycles in my life and I have loved every one of them because they got me out on the road....brands be damned like what you will ride it and enjoy....buell is good and someday they may be great...from the inside...if we the dealers don't get our shit together we will fuck it all up....only one or two people in a dealership can not change it all alone the mother company needs to get off their collective asses and listen ...like they did in the late eighteis to there beloved hogs...we are here and were trying...give us time .....
in the immortal words of steve earle...
"well I've got me two good wheels....and the years fall away with every mile....I;m the other kind"
seeya
bubba
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Snail
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake, that cute little nipper could whack my tally any time she wants to. I'm going back to BC next summer so she can run over me again.

Paul
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Rall
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

95 S-2 20,000 Satisfied

96 S-2 12,000 Satisfied
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