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Seth
| | Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 07:51 pm: | 
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Hurricanes, tornados, blizzards, mudslides, earthquakes, etc...
The only "safe" place to live in this country is the Moon! |
Ryker77
| | Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 08:14 pm: |
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don't confuse BILLION dollar damages ever so many years with a tornado that has never been so costly in damages.
Not to mention most home owners insurance covers tornadoes, blizzards. I don't think people in sunny Fla would like there tax dollars spent buying people snow tires for those who choose to live in blizzard areas. Those local governments and residents in the cold areas PLAN for and have ther OWN supplies to handle THERE areas problems. |
Ducxl
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 06:57 am: |
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I thought this was appropriate.....remember it?
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
I guess if not,one could try moving to,uhh,Pakistan? |
Panic
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 07:59 am: |
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This is such a great place!
Only the favored few are permitted to post "controversy"; my posts vanish.
My statements of fact are challenged by people who read magazines as research.
My own questions go completely un-noticed.
Better things to do... |
Road_thing
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 09:11 am: |
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Controversy is fine, but keep it civil.
There were no questions in your post, that I moved.
I'm sure we all have better things to do.
rt |
Road_thing
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 11:51 am: |
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I imagine the lady to whom you referred as Bush's "hag" would probably see it my way.
rt |
Ryker77
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 12:27 pm: |
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""I thought this was appropriate.....remember it?
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." postedby duexl.
I assume you think that the pledge requires 99% of the american tax payers to pay for the 1%.
I'll give you some history lessons.
In February 1887, President Grover Cleveland, upon vetoing a bill appropriating money to aid drought-stricken farmers in Texas, said, "I find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and the duty of the General Government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit."
President Cleveland added, "The friendliness and charity of our countrymen can always be relied upon to relieve their fellow citizens in misfortune. This has been repeatedly and quite lately demonstrated. Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the Government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood."
President Cleveland vetoed hundreds of congressional spending measures during his two-term presidency, often saying, "I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution." But Cleveland wasn't the only president who failed to see charity as a function of the federal government. In 1854, after vetoing a popular appropriation to assist the mentally ill, President Franklin Pierce said, "I cannot find any authority in the Constitution for public charity." To approve such spending, argued Pierce, "would be contrary to the letter and the spirit of the Constitution and subversive to the whole theory upon which the Union of these States is founded."
In 1796, Rep. William Giles of Virginia condemned a relief measure for fire victims, saying that Congress didn't have a right to "attend to what generosity and humanity require, but to what the Constitution and their duty require." A couple of years earlier, James Madison, the father of our Constitution, irate over a $15,000 congressional appropriation to assist some French refugees, said, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
Here's my question: Were the nation's founders, and some of their successors, callous and indifferent to human tragedy? Or, were they stupid and couldn't find the passages in the Constitution that authorized spending "on the objects of benevolence"?
Some people might say, "Aha! They forgot about the Constitution's general welfare clause!" Here's what James Madison said: "With respect to the two words 'general welfare,' I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
I guess if not,one could try moving to,uhh,Pakistan?"" |
Panic
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 06:24 pm: |
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What a sad day for Congress if they were required to limit their spending to their legal authority, as opposed to the current practice, where it is only limited by their power.
I would expect 535 resignations that morning. |
Bigdaddy
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 11:39 pm: |
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RT, Classy civil move.
Panic, Them bums aren't going to resign -- that would force them to go find jobs. Well, excepting the ones that are qualified for their super-duper-retirment plan. Talk to a military retiree about how lucrative our monthly retirement income is :-)
G2 |
Jackbequick
| | Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 08:46 am: |
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Here is a link to a PowerPoint slide show with forty-odd photos of Katrina damage. Some of the aerial shots give you a moving "big picture" on the damage and human suffering there.
The slide show can be saved and played with the M$ app (or a PowerPoint viewer). Or you can download and install the free version of OpenOffice and never have to buy, borrow, or steal another M$ Office Suite application again. It is a great piece of software.
Jack |
Ryker77
| | Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 09:44 am: |
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The two best pictures of "Human Suffering"
out of shopping buggies so the poor hurricane victims had to use a pallet jack for transporting much needed supplies
yea sure I feel sorry for them
after all that BS they got a 2,000 debit card and will get to live rent free for up to 18 months.
A freind has a family member who had just moved into a rented apartment down in th damage area. She got 28,000 for her losses.
(Message edited by ryker77 on October 13, 2005)
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