| Author | Message | ||
     Lucas70374 |
I thought I would share with you guys     (Message edited by road_thing on October 05, 2005) | ||
| Lucas70374 |
    (Message edited by road_thing on October 05, 2005) | ||
| Seth |
The first picture is cool, the rest seem to get more depressing. In the last picture, what does the yellow paint signify? I've seen on the news officials spray painting markings on houses, I just havn't any idea what it all means. Thank you for posting these pictures. | ||
| Spreadem |
If I remember correctly from all of the news coverage, the paint signifies how many people in that particular home died... It's a sad, sad thing what happened down there, I'm glad they're starting to make a little progress in reopening and rebuilding the city. Prayers to everyone involved, either directly or in the recovery efforts... Wade | ||
| Road_thing |
Thanks, Lucas--I edited your posts to stack the pix vertically. Can you identify the locations of the pictures? Where were the smashed cars? And what is that big building in the third-to-last picture? rt | ||
| Paint_shaker |
The yellow paint/symbol on the house indicates the house has been checked by search and rescue personnel. Amoung the information in the symbol is whether or not a death(s) occured in the house. | ||
| Lucas70374 |
The first pic is right next to the superdome, you can see the ramp to get to the plaza level, Notice the building in back with the windows out. The second pic is fo me across the street from the Superdome, Notice the water line The 3rd and 4th pic of the cars, Thats off Canal Blvd, If I remember correctly thats at the corner of Bourbon street, but on the other side, not where the clubs are at. The 5th pic is going towards the Lake Front on West end Blvd, That pic was taken right next to I-10. Notice the water line The 6th and 7th pics are at the Lake Front, The big building is Joes Crab Shack, The yacht is across the road in a parking lot. All of that area is on the Lake side of the Floodgates. There is a Yacht Club right next to all of that. The last pic is of a Mike (guy with vrod) He is 6'4" and up on 2 steps up, Notice the water lines. Yes the marks mean people found/dead I will post some more pics tonight to so check it out tonight. (Message edited by lucas70374 on October 05, 2005) | ||
| Road_thing |
Thanks, Lucas. I used to live on Lake Ave (on the Jefferson side of the 17th St canal) right down the road from Deanie's Seafood. I guess the Lake Front pix #6&7 are out at West End Park near the NOYC and the SYC? What a tragedy. I hope you and yours are all OK? rt | ||
| Buellgrrrl |
Lucas, did you notice how bad the main Post Office building across from the superdome was damaged? | ||
| Lucas70374 |
yes 6 and 7 was at West End, Well Rita Flooded more then Katrina in My area, But I have gotten very Lucky with both storms. Katrina was a little more towards the East and Rita was a Little more West. You know the new and seeing it in person is totally different. It made me feel how fortunate I was. | ||
| Ryker77 |
what did yuou spend your 2000.00 FEMA gift card on? | ||
| Cajunrph |
Rita flooded more in Houma than Katrina did. But keep in mind that you were on the east side for Rita and the west side for Katrina. In the whole grand picture of things 2 grand is not a lot of money If your house will not be able to be lived in for 3 months. Going on 6 weeks now and the Mayor says only look at the house not to stay. Long long long road ahead. | ||
| 2000m2 |
I just received pictures of my grandparents house and it is pretty disturbing. All kinds of mold up to the ceiling inside...everything ruined. It's been really tough on them, not easy for people almost 80 yrs old to start all over. The lived out in New Orleans East on Morrison Road. Pretty amazing what nature can do... | ||
| Arbalest |
OK, I have a question. I live in a state where we seldom get hurricanes or earthquakes. The last wildfire happened about 75 years ago. I don't think we have ever had a tornado. So.. my perspective may be a little different. I don't mean to make light of the tragedy that has happened to the Gulf states, but please tell me what makes living in a place where the only thing keeping the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ponchartrain(sp?)from becoming one body of water, is a couple of earthen dikes and lots of pumps that must be continually maintained, a good idea?? Something just seems wrong with the concept of looking UP and seeing a ship go by. Pleas explain to me why anyone should be ALLOWED | ||
| Mikej |
It's a choice, and sometimes the culture and ambiance over-ride any geographical encombrances. Home is where the heart is, be it hot or cold, high or low, wet or dry, home is home. I grew up near Seattle and many folks out there call that God's own country. I lived in California for awhile and some folks there say the same thing about their part of California. Oregon, the same. Wisconsin, the same. You don't have your current geographic location noted in your profile Arbalest, but I'm sure folks where you are say the same as well. We don't have to be "allowed" to live someplace, as that would be putting someone else in charge of our freedom of choice. We individually choose where we individually choose to live by our own choosing. No real need to understand someone else's reason, just accept their choice and right to choose. Why would someone live in the Northwest Territories? Because they choose to live there, or because they've never lived any place else that they'd rather live. They do simply because they do, there need be no other reason.  | ||
| Arbalest |
Mikej, but living in the Northwest territories, or California, doesn't require the diligence of the Army Corps of Engineers to keep the population from drowning. | ||
| Mikej |
C'est la vie  | ||
| Road_thing |
Are you suggesting that people should be forbidden to live in low-lying areas? That rules out a lot of ground, Arb. I think most Americans might find the notion that they might not be allowed to choose where they live to be, well, un-American! You might want to look in on the ACoE's website and see what they do for the folks in your area, wherever that is. They're not diligent only in Louisiana. You might find that, even in your quiet part of the country, their diligence improves your life in some way. rt | ||
| Arbalest |
Road_thing, I live in Maine. The A.C. of E. dredges our harbors. They improve shipping. I am not suggesting that people not be permitted to move back. I am just questioning why they would move back. Katrina was a hundred year storm. That got everyone's attention. When things settled down a little, people started to go back. Then Rita hit. ANOTHER hundred year storm. Wasn't that a little like God (for those of you who believe) saying, "HELLOOOOO...isn't anybody paying attention??? | ||
| Road_thing |
Arb, no question, it's been the worst hurricane year in recent memory on the Gulf Coast. But K and R aren't the first devastating storms, even in my lifetime. I rode out Betsy in '65 (I think) and we were without power on the north shore of Pontchartrain for 2 or 3 weeks. Camille hit the Mississippi coast in '69 while I was in boot camp in Maryland. Alicia broke Houston up pretty good in '83. I'm sure there've been others that don't immediately spring to mind. The Gulf Coast will rebound. Some folks will choose to relocate. Others, perhaps with strong ties to the land or with occupations unique to the area (shrimpers and offshore petroleum workers, for example) will choose to stay and rebuild their lives. It may seem irrational to folks who are removed from the situation, but it makes perfect sense to those of us who have lived here most of our lives. rt | ||
| Lucas70374 |
I agree with you Road_thing. If you lived here all your life then you would understand, but the people that dont live here, dont understand. Kinda like riding a buell if you havent ridden one you dont understand. | ||
| Road_thing |
I think most people feel attached to their particular part of the country. I imagine Maine is a pretty nice place, too(at least in the summer time!). rt | ||
| Arbalest |
Road_thing, summer is ok in Maine. Spring absolutely SUCKS. Fall is die and go to heaven weather. Winter is bearable. I drive my sidecar rig three seasons out of the year. The rig gets parked for most of Spring. A Maine humorist once described Summer in Maine as "three months of damn poor skiing". The year Billy Swift pitched in the Word Series, Joe Garagiola, commenting on how cold it was that day, and mentioning that Swift was from Maine, said that he thought "Summer in Maine falls on a Thursday". Neither are far off the mark. As far as I'm concerned you can keep ALL of the 90+ degree days for you Southern boys. I prefer my weather cool. | ||
| Slaughter |
I look at choice of place to live as comparable to helmets. You can ride without one but don't ORDER me through taxation to pick up the cost of the lifestyle choice. That being said, our sister company in Michoud was hammered. Over 40% of the employees there lost their homes. We had a telcon with them yesterday in which we asked how it was going for them. Most of them were calling in elsewhere other than Michoud. They said it's easier for them than folks closer to the water since they had places to go but they also know that this WILL happen again. Hate to break it to everybody but there are going to be storms in the future in that area and there WILL BE storms with Cat5+ strength. Just don't force my cousins in Wisconsin to pay for it - they're having a hard enough time making it as dairy farmers. I fear we're dam*ing those people to the he*l that we are now witnessing - if not them, certainly their children or grandchildren. We'll be having these discussions again within 2 generations. | ||
| Bomber |
slaughter -- good points about Dairy Farmers paying for pumps in the gulf -- the same could be said for musicians in New Orleans paying for farm subsidies, though -- a thorny issue, with no easy (big or small) solution | ||
| Charlieboy6649 |
Arb, I'm with ya. I think the same way when I see houses sliding off the Malibu cliffs. I say why live there in the first place??? Sure the view is great, but then along comes a storm... I don't think that restrictions should be put in place; but I wouldn't live there... Personal choice I guess. A gamble... | ||
| Slaughter |
Bomber - that's EXACTLY why our family is ANTI-Subsidy. Hard to make a living when the market is now defined by the Government. When the Government becomes your primary customer and the market is guaranteed, the people who SHOULD go out of business do not. (ever heard about "Government Cheese?" - they're not kidding) It pains me to talk to a group of a dozen fellow engineers all calling in from different places instead of the same conference room in Louisiana but they're having to suck it up and keep moving forward. We have about 3500 co-workers there - only about 500 able to return. Nearly half have no homes. We're trying to create jobs for those who can temporarily re-locate here in CA so they can help us with our work and pickup some of their engineering. Sure, they'll not be able to MAKE anything here as big as they do there but it's a little help. Between employee donations and corporate matching funds, we've put in over $3Million so far http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms/findPage.do?dsp=fec&ci=15260&rsbci=0&fti=126&t i=0&sc=400 Just dunno...} | ||
| Xbduck |
Mike, I live on the Blue Ridge mountains in Virginia. Sounds fairly safe, these are part of the oldest mountain chain in the world, or so I've been told. However in 1969 when Camille hit Nelson county things happened that people just couldn't believe. Being so far inland every one thought that living next to a river in the valley was the only place that would flood, boy were they wrong. We lost entire mountain sides, and what didn't go with the dirt went with the wall of water that followed. It was bad for many yet they stayed. Will it happen again? Certainly it will. I guess my point is we all try to find ways to feel safe but it is never a 100% given anywhere you live. P.S. If you think your safe in Maine don't forget you get snow in ways that could kill hundreds if they are not prepared. P.P.S. If that doesn't phase you then be careful in the bathroom because that room is a known killer. (Risk is everywhere) | ||
| Ryker77 |
I'm like a few of the other guys. I live in a "safe" part of Georgia. I don't think its the federal government (income taxes) should be used to pay for a FEW people who CHOOSE to live in a KNOWN hazard area. If people want to live there, great. Good for them. Let them pay for there own insurance. Local taxes should be high enough so that when the storms do hit the local people can take care of themselves. Local people, Local hazards, Local money. NOT FEDERAL PROBLEM. not with my tax money. I'm not just hitting on N.O. but all coastal and flood zones. There is a reason why insurance companied don't insure them. ITS NOT COST EFFECTIVE. There is a reason why none of the top 500 companies place there headquartes in such areas. NOT SMART business. | ||
| Road_thing |
Panic: Hateful political commentary. It's outta here. rt |
