| Author | Message | ||
     Aaomy |
ok guys im was searching for info on synthetic oils and all i can find are a bunch of argument and opinions.. i want to switch and would really appreciate all your help,, please let me know what you are running in your engine and primary. also any facts you may have on the products such as if they contain friction modifiers, "damage alternators", and if they are pure synthetics or blends. thanks guys,, aaron | ||
| Mikej |
I'm slowing switching my bikes over to synthetic, one now has it in the primary/trans. Just do it. There was some speculation that one of the color blends might have had a relationship with stator failures, or some other failure. It might have been something else and the color blend just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and got the blame instead, or maybe it did cause the failure and the blame is justified, or not, don't know, don't care, don't use it in either case, never did, can't say I never will, just never seen it on a local store shelf which might have made it a candidate, but never seen it in person so it's a mute point. My recommendation would be to start your switch with the Harley stuff. Then as you become more accustomed to it you can expand your choices and options and opinions. You did of course realize this thread would be quickly hijaacked, so with that in mind I would really like to see a pic of your XLCH (right side profile if you have one), thanks. Hope this helps in some way.  | ||
| Impulse_101 |
I use Redline 20W50 in the primary and engine. It's pure synthetic, not a blend and it has smoothed the bike out very nicely. Can't say much else about it except that the Buell race team from Hal's use it in their bikes. JT | ||
| Glitch |
I'm using fully half organic fully half synthetic can o' worms.  | ||
| Rick_a |
That's all it really boils down to. Any synthetic in the proper formulation from any reputable manufacturer will do. I've used Castrol, Mobil 1, and Screaming Eagle SYN3 and have no preference. | ||
| Jeremyh |
just take into consideration that if the stuff didn't work there would NOT be so many people that DO use it. I prefer it mainly because of the number of 100 plus degree days we have here. 15 thousand rpm's 100+ ambient temps and a constant 200-225 degree engine temp make me use synthetics even more. | ||
| Steve_mackay |
I also use Redline in my primary, and "normal" Mobile 1 in the oil tank. Shifting is noticably smoother after switching to Redline. | ||
| Light_keeper |
Primary = Mobile 1 Tank = HD 20-50 As above switch to synthetic in primary I did not much smoother operation. | ||
| Lake_bueller |
I use Mobil 1 gear lube in the primary and Mobil 15/50 in the motor. | ||
| Bomber |
Aaomy -- arguments and opinions is all there is -- the research papers have been done by oil companies, the claims of long life are made by individuals, and the snake oil sellers are busy squeezing snakes my Y2K MaDeuece runs about 10 degrees f cooler with Mobile 1 15-50 than it does with HD dyno-oil, but I did NOT perform double blind testing -- my shifting "seems" smoother with the Mobil 1 75-90 than sport trans, but that's opinion too | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Can't really go wrong with Mobil 1. 15w50 in the Motor 75w95 gear oil in the transmission. I change when I change rear tires:-), however that interval has doubled since I went to Michelin Pilot Power tires. Fortunately, Mobil 1 doubled their mileage rating at the same time:-) I buy my Mobil 1 at Walmart, and while I am there, I get the ST 4967 oil filters which cost two bucks and look just like the Buell part that cost 4 times as much. Pretty much everyone has reported cooler running and smoother shifting with these lubricants. | ||
| Light_keeper |
Thats note, not not.  | ||
| Tramp |
"ok guys im was searching for info on synthetic oils and all i can find are a bunch of argument and opinions.. " wellllll...with a thread title asking what synthetic oils are you using", you sort of assume that we are all using synthetics, so it sounds like an argument already. when jeremyh says: "just take into consideration that if the stuff didn't work there would NOT be so many people that DO use it. " the same can be said with absolute certaintly about organic oil, so it's an empty statement. there are also a LOT of whiners on these boards whimpering about engine failures, etc., which I've never experienced in my decade of beating the sh*t outta my S2. all original engine parts, no problems at all, and I run the organic lubes that the factory manual says to run what a rebel i am | ||
| Bomber |
knot? | ||
| Tramp |
incidentally, why do you want to switch? | ||
| Light_keeper |
not knot, note | ||
| Jackbequick |
I'm using Mobil 1, 75w90 in the primary and 15w50 in the engine. My M2 did about 2,000 miles on dinosaur oil and was then switched to synthetics. It will stay on synthetics while I have it. Simply because I've used both and prefer the synthetic. I like working on and taking apart engines that were run on synthetics. They are much cleaner, less sludge and baked on varnish. Professional mechanics, who see more engines that were used with both oils, often comment on parts appearing visibly less worn on engines run on synthetics. Jack | ||
| Tramp |
um.... THIS professional mechanic has no idea what you're talking about.... | ||
| Jeremyh |
ok to clear things up a bit...........i never said anything about Dino oil. Hey if the shat works for you use it otherwise dont ask for an opinion because you are going to get more than you eveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr wanted from a forum that serves the entire globe. TRY IT AND LIKE IT OR HATE IT AND STOP USING IT. i do not in any way shape or form think that dino oil doesnt serve its purpose. I JUST PREFER THE OVER PRICED SUPER JUICE!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Tramp |
"Professional mechanics, who see more engines that were used with both oils, often comment on parts appearing visibly less worn on engines run on synthetics" ummm...not to pick nits, jeremiah, but when you refer to "both" oils, which two types do you mean? country and western? when you state that parts appear "visibly LESS worn on...synthetics", do you mean less than country, or western? for ya see, stating that there's LESS wear on one of two types certainly states that there's more on the OTHER type. i'm sure you can appreciate my confusion, here. how do you feel about bluegrass? (Message edited by tramp on August 10, 2005) | ||
| Jeremyh |
who the hell is jeremiah? | ||
| Tramp |
" Hey if the shat works for you use it otherwise dont ask for an opinion " jeremiah- i think aomy has no idea if it works for him or not, being he's never yet used it. i think he was looking to find opinions to help guide him in his search for a sexier lube. I think he has every right to ask for an opinion. the second rule regarding opinions, however, is to be careful what you ask for, as you just might get it.... be it, of course, country OR western... | ||
| Tramp |
jeremiah's a bluegrass fan, of course... why does this have to be so confusing? | ||
| Tramp |
i kid. he's actually a bullfrog, according to hoyt axton, as retold by three dog night, who were named after the lapp gradient for cold, which is based on how many samoyeds it takes to stay warm at night. a really cold night takes three, so they used a lighter oil, often whale-based, but i do feel they'd be better woith a wider-spectrum synthetic, at those temps... | ||
| Bomber |
did he ever listen to a word you said? | ||
| Tramp |
tell you THIS, bummer- I never understood a single word HE said, regardless.... | ||
| Bomber |
prolly the wine | ||
| Tramp |
mighty fine wine | ||
| Newfie_buell |
I am using 15w-50 Mobil 1 in the motor. 75w-90 Motomaster (Canadian Tire brand) in the primary. Two years and 30,000km later and all is good in tractor engine land. | ||
| Road_thing |
Naught. |
