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Got1nut
| Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 09:45 pm: |
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funny http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html |
Madsx
| Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 09:59 pm: |
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just didnt wanna listen...did she?
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Krassh
| Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 10:41 pm: |
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See that is why I could not be a police officer, I would keep giving her a shock with a big smile on my face. |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 10:44 pm: |
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betcha next time she will out otu the smoke, hang up the phone(not htat she shoudl be talking whiel driving), and get teh f**k out of the damn car.... And yes it stings, but only for a minute..... damn drama queen..... "ya'll are racist"... What ever Chase |
Fullpower
| Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 10:56 pm: |
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she was squalling just like my mother in laws cat sounded....with my pit bull attached. |
Phatkidwit1eye
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 01:27 am: |
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hahahahahaha........... |
Rockbiter1
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 07:26 am: |
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He shoulda tagged her again, just for being damn irritating... |
Ray_maines
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 07:46 am: |
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As long as she could stay in the car and run her mouth she was in control of the situation. Make no mistake here; this is a power struggle, or control issue. She wasn't afraid of the police or any other lame BS, she just wanted it to happen on her own terms. She was driving without a valid license because she's so special she doesn't have to play by anybody else's rules. That's the same attitude that allows Jr. High school kids to take their own sweet time strolling across a street in traffic against a red light. They should get tagged too as far as I'm concerned. |
Brucelee
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 09:33 am: |
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How dumb is this woman? How much clearer could the officer have been? Hope the officer got NO GRIEF from this incident! |
Eor
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 12:10 pm: |
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I guess we'll never know if they would have taken the same action had it been a defiant 22 year old blonde girl...or if they would have given her a little more time to finish the call before zapping her? How would you react if it had been a biker? This is essentially a power struggle between two clueless white guys armed with an electric toy and a black woman armed with an attitude....and the outcome is predictable. Allot of needless drama for a simple traffic violation. The woman needs an attitude adjustment and the cops need some training. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 12:20 pm: |
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"The woman needs an attitude adjustment and the cops need some training." I absolutely agree with you on this. The situation could have been handled a lot better on both sides. |
M1combat
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 12:20 pm: |
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The cops did just fine. Exemplary if you ask me. If it was a guy/girl on a bike... That's not the time to make a phone call, it's not the time to be a bitch, it's not the time to be driving w/o a license, it's not the time to have an attitude... Zap 'em. That cop told her to get out of the car (he had good reason to) multiple times. She didn't. She CHOSE to get tazed. People need to learn to live with the consequences of their actions. There's no "give and take" with the police. It's not a 50/50 situation. That lady gave up her right to sit in the driver seat of that vehicle when she lost her license. It's up to fine officers like that to take her out of the seat. Bravo . |
Doughnut
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 01:03 pm: |
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A few people seem to think that the officers did wrong. What should the officers have done? |
Johnnylunchbox
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 02:00 pm: |
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The officers used the appropriate level of force. Life ain't pretty sometimes, but there was no wrongdoing on the part of the officers. The woman obviously had some emotional (or developmental) issues. Why do people think that they have to automatically fight the police? Eor - The woman refused commands that were not unreasonable. She was technically in custody at the time of the stop. Did you want them to sit there and debate with the woman about what she planned to do? What if what she was "talking" on was one of these? http://www.mobidirect.com/cellgun.mpg (Message edited by JohnnyLunchBox on June 07, 2005) |
Blackbelt
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 02:13 pm: |
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Police now a days are always under a microscope for screwtinany (spelled wrong). But the fact remains, they are the ones up-holding the law as it is written. You may get 1 or 2 bad apples in an entire bushel, but that is an extremly rare occasion. When i got my license, my father always said to be curtious and polite, say "yes sir/ma'am" cause they hold your driving privilages in their hot little hands. And remember that is all it is a Privialge nothing else. It can be taken just like everything else in this world. I have the utmost respect for all law enforcement and the difficult job they must endure.. Hats off and keep up the good fight... p.s. that lady just like some of the people in this country need to LISTEN MORE and pay attention.... |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 03:16 pm: |
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I look at it this way, There is a rule, called the "Escalation of Force" (not by the letter on this board) 1. Verbal/Presence 2. Show of Arms/Force(this DOES NOT MEAN BRANDISHING A WEAPON, it means allow your weapon to be seen) 3 Non lethal..used when a suspect is eitehr uncooperative or combative, but does not justify lethal force, i.e Collapsable Baton, Nightstick, Pepper Spray, Tazer... 4 lethal. Nuff said there... There is more to it, but the abridged version gets the point across.... I feel the officer was actually more "polite" than the situation warranted, he asked her several times, when in reality he didnt have to ask, more than ...3 times sounds good...she was warned.... Pepper spray would have been more lasting, the vehcile, sometimes very minor burns to the skin(depending onthe person), A baton or stick just wasnt warranted, nor would have worked well in a vehicle.... And maybe aiming a GUN would have been overboard, BUT, most people know that an officer cant just shoot at will, so they will test, and possibly take off, causing needless danger to others... NOW, I am not a civilian police officer... BUT, I did it for the Navy(9545)(stil do sometimes, still active)..adn the majority of the rules are remarkably similar(we train with the local sherriffs office)... So, I feel he was justified in this situation, though, Iam sure that there will be a civil suit attempted, citing racism(she screamed on scene, so why not in court?), Sorry for the long post, but, I think sometimes people need to understand, that not everyone pulls over and does what they are told, thats why these "tools" come inot deveoplment.... FYI, the tazer is not as bad as 20% oc spray..trust me..only lasts for a minute or 2 where as the spray messes with you sinuses, eyes, throat, adn skin..., but she wil remember it.... Me, I probably would have warned her once, as req'd, zapped her, and had her "cuffed adn stuffed" before she could make anymore argument... Chase |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 04:14 pm: |
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Loki
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 04:31 pm: |
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I could go on about this....... justified action, nuff said. |
Matty
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 05:17 pm: |
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Dj, THX has nothing to do with this... But some more pics would be cool =) |
Matty
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 05:19 pm: |
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oops.
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Matty
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 05:21 pm: |
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Paint_shaker
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 06:08 pm: |
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Every day people make decisions concerning themselves... In this instance the lady chose NOT to follow the officer's instructions... Her actions put her self and the safety of the officers in jeporday... On the side of the road is NOT the time to argue whether or not you committed a violation (that is what court is for)... Now, had the lady chose to get off the phone and comply with the officer's instructions she would have been issued a ticket for a civil infraction and been sent on her way with the option to contest the citation in court... However the decision she made dictated the officer's actions, caused her to be arrested for a misdemeanor and landed her in jail... I am in no way saying not to contest the citation, but again the side of the road is the WRONG place to do that.... |
Ray_maines
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 06:43 pm: |
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You guys that have been paying attention for a while know I have serious issues with about 99% of all Traffic Police and the super crappy way they levy and collect Speed Tax revenues for their districts. Maybe on some other thread we can talk about the reason this woman was pulled over and the circumstances surrounding her arrest. But after she got pulled over she should have got her little fanny out of the car like she was told and have been VERY polite to the nice young man in blue. That super self-centered, self-serving, rebellious, arrogant attitude of distain for authority just drives people crazy and this young woman is lucky the police were as well trained and professional as they were. If you were to place a school teacher, retail store clerk or bus driver in the policeman's position that woman would have looked like a fried chicken. |
Budo
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 06:48 pm: |
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She got exactly what she asked for. |
Craigster
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 08:15 pm: |
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She was doing 51 in a 35 zone Driving with a suspended licence had a cracked windshield and had a lighting problem She then greets the officer with a statement about how 'it's illegal to use radar in a moving vehicle' and wants his 'name and unit number'. She knows so much about the law that she forgot it was illegal to drive without a licence. She also knew so much about the law she decided that the officer should ask a fifth time for her to get out of the car. Some people feel they are entitled. The only abuse here was a citizen abusing a cop. |
Raraf
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 08:28 pm: |
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The problem is not that she got tagged, IMHO. It is that there is no similar action permitted by us civilians. Imagine when one of those cops(God Bless Every Single One of Them) make your Glutes wait for a hour and a half in a car while they are "looking something up" and you had the right to zap their buttocks with a Tazer! I would mount the vid camera now to my truck! |
Got1nut
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 08:45 pm: |
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theres lots of reasons why they make you wait in ur car for a long time. We don't need anymore Trooper Mark Coates incidents. People need to let the cops do their job. I have never had a problem with a LEO. Maybe its because I just let them do their jobs and don't give them any grief. They deal with the scum of the earth day in and day out. |
Mutt2jeff
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 09:25 pm: |
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Haha, should have just hung up the damn phone. |
Newxb9er
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 11:01 pm: |
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I think that todays society is taught to have disdain for the law. I myself, when young and dumb was the same way. Talked back, smart , the works, and I got ticketed plenty because of my mouth I'm sure. Yet these same people who "hate" police, and give them grief are one day going to need them, and are going to expect them to do their job. How would that girl feel if she was being robbed, or in a situation where she needed police help, and the police decided they didn't feel like helping right now, and they would help when they felt like it. Would never happen. These police officers have better things to do than deal with the idiot public and their f-ing attitude. I say, you get what you ask for, simple as that. When tasers were introduced here in Northern California people have been criticizing them because a couple people have died (doped up, heart screaming). Well, choice is gun or taser, I'll take the taser. Majority of the public are clueless ignorant idiots. Zap em into line I say. Funny thing is, I'm trying out for the Sheriff's Dept.!! Sorry it's long, I just get so pissed at people. |
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