| Author | Message | ||
     34nineteen |
On my S1, I have a one of those cone shaped Supertrapp mufflers with the integral elbow. I didn’t get any of the muffler mounting hardware with my bike (semi basket case) and finding detailed pics has been tricky at best. I have the rear attached using a cut down piece of 1/8” thick x 3/4” wide stainless. On the front, I devised this. Part of me thinks the heim joints are an great solution, the other part is that it introduces a huge stability problem. What are your thoughts? I also have a Y-Mount (courtesy of Screamer). What do you think?  | ||
| Kc_zombie |
Looks functional, I would lean toward the Y-Mount. However, I still run the STD front mount (albeit polished) with a Force muffler. Made a little offset to deal with alignment and vibration. No issues at all.  | ||
| 34nineteen |
What clamp is that around the pipe? On my setup, the Y mount will allow me to take the left/right angle out of the connecting rod. The one in the pic is a 3/8 version, but the Y mount uses a 5/16 bolt, so the connecting rod will be less bulky.. or should be. The funny part is that the front mount on my bike looks waaay overbuilt compared to the tab at the rear of the pipe. How did you polish the front mount? I thought they were steel? (Message edited by 34nineteen on July 14, 2020) | ||
| Kc_zombie |
It's a clamp from Force, I think it is still available from them. It's not listed on their site, so you will have to call. The tab is an S2 muffler support tab (65333-94Y). I have had this setup since I purchased and did the frame off restore back in 2011. | ||
| Upthemaiden |
KC: is that clamp tight around the pipe, or is it a loose fit? It looks like there's a gap at the bottom, although if it's the clamp Force provides, I'd assume it's correct. Have you ever seen the Mazz(Maz maybe) version of that front mount? Yours would help with side to side and front to back movement, but it's really not going to do anything for vertical movement beyond the friction of the rear bolt. Take a look at the bracket Kevmean posted, it would keep yours supported in all directions. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/687123.html?1347230959 Oddly enough, your 2 brackets do the exact opposite of each other. One allows front to back and side to side movement, but no vertical movement. The other allows vertical movement and no side to side or front to back. I'd be curious which is more ideal. I really don't know much about any of that stuff. I have the newer Y bracket with a stock exhaust, but the mount doesn't even fit perfectly between the welded tabs on my exhaust, so they 2 are pressing on each other a little bit, so I assume I'm not even getting the benefits out of the bushings in the stock setup anyway. | ||
| 34nineteen |
Thanks for that link. I do like the Kevmean design for the front mount bracket. The adjustable rod with the heim joints seemed like a good idea, but it seems like may allow too much movement into the mount. I probably should disconnect the header and see how the muffler hangs and moves on my setup. I wasnt sure if the idea is to let the exhaust move, but in a restricted manner or keep it attached rigidly to the motor. After all the front mount and the rear mounts have rubber bushings to allow movement? But the front of the header is bolted rigidly to the heads and the twist bracket rigidly attaches the header to the front shock mount. On the old style mount shown, I was able to use two modified urethane bushings with a metal sleeve. (Message edited by 34nineteen on July 15, 2020) (Message edited by 34nineteen on July 15, 2020) | ||
| Upthemaiden |
For what it's worth, I think the newer bikes did not have that mount for that twist bracket welded on the header. I don't know if that was done because of people's headers cracking or what. Last time I messed with my exhaust I pulled the twist bracket off and left it off. Beyond that, I really can't say about how much they should move. Like you said, they must need some movement, otherwise they wouldn't have been mounted on rubber bushings, how much exactly, I have no clue. What are you using for bushings in your mount? They look nice compared to my old beat up bushings. | ||
| Kc_zombie |
KC: is that clamp tight around the pipe, or is it a loose fit? Semi tight, it allows for front to back movement. There is very little stress put on the pipe, which is a single piece. Yes, it is the clamp designed for the pipe. | ||
| 34nineteen |
I'll have to look up the application again, but its a motor mount for a golf cart or something. I had to trim down the length and use 2 of them. The sleeve came from Ace Hardware. Whats interesting is that on my late model Sportster, there is no rubber mounting for the exhaust pipes/mufflers. Its just hard to tell on a tuber, since it seems that most parts were just retrofitted to the bike from other applications. | ||
| 34nineteen |
KC: what clutch cable is that? I just picked up a stock replacement one for my S1, but that cable is pretty neat looking. | ||
| Falloutnl |
Apologies for the delay 34nineteen, here's the pictures of my Supertrapp's rear mount:    Looks like someone did a quick n dirty welding job to make some sort of tab on the exhaust itself. Doesn't really matter, planning to swap it out for something else at some point because I simply don't like the sound all that much. (Message edited by falloutnl on July 16, 2020) | ||
| 34nineteen |
Thank you. It looks like we are using the same mounting setup, except I am using the other mounting hole on the engine to hang the strap from. I was considering fabbing up another strap to hang the exhaust from the other hole to help give the muffler some more side-side stability. I also have the same quick n dirty weld job with an identical looking tab, so maybe that was from Supertrapp? Or at least the tab was. | ||
| Kc_zombie |
KC: what clutch cable is that? Bikers Choice Armor Coat Clutch Cable 66-0332. I got mine through Amazon, but does not look like they carry it. I found one at motorcycleid.com. https://www.motorcycleid.com/1998-buell-s1-lightni ng-cables-brackets/?filter=1&field%5B367146%5D%5B1 %5D=Clutch+Cables Just scroll down a bit. Hope this helps | ||
| Falloutnl |
I also have the same quick n dirty weld job with an identical looking tab, so maybe that was from Supertrapp? Or at least the tab was. Certainly a possibility. | ||
| Tw4 |
y mount - |
