| Author | Message | ||
     Pontlee77 |
Hello, The grounds are fine, the side stand switch is by passed I turn the ignition on all sounds fine, press the start button, and nothing happens, I change the switch nothing happens I put the + of the battery on the starter motor it spins but it doenset push out the bendix, where should I start looking for this electrical issue? Thanks | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Did you check voltage at the bendix when you hit the starter?Follow the troubleshooting process in the service manual, it works. If you don't have one, I'll bet someone can send you a PDF of the necessary pages. The X1 is one if the few service manuals I don't have or I'd help you out. | ||
| Harleyelf |
That happened to me a few years back. Everything had power except the start circuit. The problem turned out to be a loose quick-disconnect on the wire from the voltage regulator to the fusebox. It's under the starter. The Bendix should extend whenever the starter spins, but your first priority should be to make the switch give power to the starter. If you wind up pulling the starter, that would be a good time to re-seal the wire plug under it that carries stator AC to the voltage regulator. | ||
| Pontlee77 |
Thanks, I'll check the manual, but I know all the problems have been done by some one in the past so that's why ask here before going to the manual. Men while I can still ride the S3T | ||
| Akbuell |
Short(ish) check of the system: On the bottom of the plate covering the end of the starter is a wire ( green on my '01 X-1) with a blade connector. Unplug that, turn ign and stop/run on, then check with a multimeter for 12V when the start button is pushed. If so, the 'control' circuit is fine. Since the connector at the starter is now exposed, touch a small jumper wire straight from the battery to the connector. If the starter doesn't work as it should, then the problem is the starter. Hope this helps, Dave | ||
| Two_seasons |
Another thing to check is at your fuse/relay box. Rock the bottom (I think the start relay is the bottom one) relay up/down and side to side as you depress the start button. Remember too you are dealing with old discrete wiring that's insulation is getting old and dry. Sometimes the copper inside breaks, yet wiring looks fine. Wiring in this case requires that you run thumb/forefinger along each wire to find it.  | ||
| Jolly |
I've lost two starters on my Buells over the years, not bad odds! It sounds like, from some of your explanation you've got two problems, (possibly). Either bad starter or bad battery that won't fully engage starter, more likely from a brief read you've got s bad starter, and possibly a connection issue that fails in the system in the normal start sequence... that green wire spade connector is a definite first check! | ||
| Pontlee77 |
Here are a couple of pics of what i got at under the battery, before removing the starter   i'm curious about the gray cable because when y took off the battery it was not connected to any thing | ||
| Harleyelf |
Is the head temperature sensor attached? | ||
| Brother_in_buells |
Those black connectors looks like to be clicked together ,or did you do that!? | ||
| Pontlee77 |
I just pulled them off, to see if any thing looked bad, but all seems to look good. I'll spray with brake cleaner and then once dry put some dielectric grease. But I wonder if the problem is else where. | ||
| Pontlee77 |
The rear cylinder temp sensor seems to be connected but I don't know where exactly as I can't see where it goes. Maybe one of the big relays is dead so I'll change them and see if it's there the problem. | ||
| Pontlee77 |
Tracing the cable work all seems to be fine I wonder if it could be the BAS, but where is it exactly located on a 2002 X1? | ||
| Pontlee77 |
When I use the red switch I can hear a click noise on one of those 2 big fusses, also i try to connect to the ecm spy and it can't find either port, i took of the gas tank, could this be te problem to log on to ecmspy? | ||
| Akbuell |
The click is most likely the ignition relay cycling as it should. The bank angel sensor is located under the rear subframe crossmember, on the front side of the 'trunk' under the seat. Removing the 'trunk' (parcel tray?, where the relay/fuse block is located) is worth doing to get to the Bank angle sensor. For me, at least... | ||
| Pontlee77 |
I ended up going to the mechanic, it seems it was a pealed and broken cable from the fuse box to the starter, i think it would have taken me ages to find it, but well he didn't over charge, now it runs like a champ, one month riding the S3T, forgot how nice is that extra power the X1has (the S3T is a 1997 bike so it hasn't got the thunderstorm heads, I have a pair waiting for when I do a top end rebuild). |
