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Johnod
Posted on Monday, December 29, 2014 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got the clamshell SRP , thought I'd install. Not really any installation instructions. Anybody have a copy, or even a real good picture?

Thanks
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Screamer
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2014 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The SRP was not intended for use on S2 models. If you have the correct generation of replacement shock there would be no harm by installing it - but there is no functional reason (or advantage) by installing it.
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Johnod
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2014 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the shock is prone to breakage, why would it matter what bike it was on?

Am I missing something?
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Phelan
Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2014 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The SRP was only intended for one version of the three different shows shocks that came out over the years.
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Johnod
Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2014 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Really?
I thought there were just the 2 Showas the long and short version. I have the long.
What's the 3rd?
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Phelan
Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2014 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There were some with reservoirs and some without.
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Screamer
Posted on Thursday, January 01, 2015 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Showa shock recall was contained to certain types of Showa shocks, only when combined with fitment to specific Buell models.
The early Showa shocks fitted to a (I'd have to confirm) 1998 or earlier Buell will not experience the recall failure condition.
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1313
Posted on Thursday, January 01, 2015 - 03:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This doesn't provide all of the answers, but as Screamer and I discussed during last years Homecoming there were some unique details related to which is (or can be) used with what.

Speaking from more personal experience, I had the long Showa shock on my S2 until it started acting like a pogo stick, then put on the short Showa shock.

Never had an SRP on it and never needed it...
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Court
Posted on Thursday, January 01, 2015 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also never recall any Buell, with the exception of the M2 Cyclone, that did not have a remote rebound damper.

In fact, one of the funniest Buell stories relates to the S2 shock. It would be great fodder, along with Marty's performance on the test track the day the Showa engineers visited, would make excellent fodder for the next book.

I found, whilst rummaging yesterday, the 2 page directive from Harley-Davidson, detailed each of the various recalls and what was to be conveyed to the general public regarding same.

Most folks, in my personal opinion, didn't understand or appreciate the recalls. Buell, in that era, had fewer recalls than the majority of their competitors and assuredly less serious.
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Screamer
Posted on Thursday, January 01, 2015 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just to repeat, putting the SRP on an S2, has no benefit.

The SRP kit was however, used on both the reservoir equipped (X1 & S3) and non-reservoir equipped (M2) shocks that included about 5 months of 1999 production. The K-series shocks replaced the SRP kit as the field solution about 5 months in to the recall.

I had a modified S2 shock (exposed spring) come apart while racing at Bonneville. Even though it didn't fail in the recall-related way, it was pretty unsettling.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, January 01, 2015 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had one, on a development bike 6 months prior to public release, fail on I-35 @ 80mph near Ardmore, OK while making the Kessel Run ...... Technically DFW to Topeka.

Lots of fabulous photos.

It is unsettling.

(EDIT: Thanks spillcheek)

Failure is EXTREMELY rare and a low probability condition.

(Message edited by Court on January 01, 2015)
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, January 01, 2015 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But did you make it in less than 12 parsecs?
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Court
Posted on Thursday, January 01, 2015 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hahahahaha . . . close. The next morning, in 19oF weather we got the first hankering of the problems to come with the side stand switches.

Those who have ridden with me may have seen the "cheaters" in all my Aerostiches.
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, January 01, 2015 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Court
Posted on Friday, January 02, 2015 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I actually found a couple new ones the other day. I think they both the 16.5".

Paperweights

But interesting ones.
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1313
Posted on Friday, January 02, 2015 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My rear shock 'failure' wasn't anything too puckering - thankfully. I was coming back from the inaugural open house at the KC plant, and just before I get to wherever the sprint car hall of fame/museum is in Iowa I wondered why my S2 was handling like a wet noodle.

I got gas and found the rear tire to be fully inflated, but one of the threaded rods on the WP shock to be MIA.

Cautiously ride to the farm implement store down the road - hey it's Iowa - explain what I need to do. They didn't have any metric all thread but with some standard all thread adjusted to length with a borrowed hack saw and a handful of nuts I was East Troy bound again in no time.

After I returned to East Troy I found out that the 'fix' was either S1 shock rods or improved S1 shock rods, that Henry had. I put the parts Henry gave me and the shock was fine until the shock recall replaced it with the long Showa.

Personally, I wouldn't really consider my experience to truly be a 'failure' of the shock overall, but I find it somewhat interesting right here are 3 people who had 'issues' with the WP shock...
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, January 02, 2015 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would think at this point in time, anyone lucky enough to have an original WP would be able to contact Works or Penske, and get a set of their shock rods to retrofit to the WP unit...as opposed to taking off an original, rare piece.
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Court
Posted on Friday, January 02, 2015 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brankin:

I found a box with a couple new, still wrapped in bubble wrap, shocks and the supply of "Super Rods" that Henry gave me in 1997 when we were at Daytona for the Buel Lightning Series.

I still think it's kinda cool that Barny, my S1, was the first Buell to circumnavigate Daytona, when Erik grabbed it to ride the parade lap.

I think the rods were just a hardened steel. i don't know . . Henry just gave them to me an winked.
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Screamer
Posted on Friday, January 02, 2015 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brankin,
Sent an e-mail to you...
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Court
Posted on Monday, January 05, 2015 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brankin:

I think these may be the rods you were referring to. Henry gave me a package to take to Daytona . . .

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1313
Posted on Monday, January 05, 2015 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those could very well be them.

I seem to recall that the threaded ends were more symmetrical from end to end, so maybe the top pair were the ones.

But then again, that was - what? - 16 years ago, I could always be wrong after so many years...
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