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Arizona_buell
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So is there a trick with this setup? stock front caliper with P.M. wheels. I found not enough room between the wheel and the disc to remove the caliper? Disc bolts are super tight will deal with those later. Do you have to take the caliper apart? I do have a manual so let that go for a min.
Thanks.
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Jramsey
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remove pads.
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Pash
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And push pistons in
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Harleyelf
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you take the pads out of the caliper? Mine is tight, too, so I usually take the caliper apart and replace the o-rings when I put it back on.

(Message edited by harleyelf on April 15, 2013)
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B1rdman
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shoot I'm still having trouble removing the pad retention pin. Previous owner stripped out the 5mm Allen head. No idea how to get it off now. Tried 5.5mm, torx, etc
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Arizona_buell
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No I didn't take the pads out , YET. But I will now. first time I just removed the brake line but I was stripping the bike anyway. Thanks I knew someone here had an idea.
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Arizona_buell
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

B1 if you can find a set of short easy outs I got a set from Snap On years ago , apply some heat to the bolt someone probably put lock tight on them. Sometimes a soldering iron will free up the lock tight. Otherwise I have tack welded a washer to the bolt head, then tacked a nut to the washer and that has fixed any stuck bolt I have had.
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Jramsey
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No idea how to get it off now.
1.Disassemble the caliper on the bike.

2.Grab the pin between the pads with a small pair of vise grips.

3.Last resort like I had to do the other day on the rear brake on my Burgman.
Welded a piece of 1/4" keystock to it then used vise grips.


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Harleyelf
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or, you could carefully drill the head off of the pad retaining screw. Once it's off, no torque will remain to hold the threads from turning and a vise grip will turn them easily. If still stuck, apply heat to break lock-tite or whatever else is fouling threads.

I use a countersink to drill heads off of screws.
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Kevmean
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remove pads/ push pistons back and put tape on wheel rim to prevent scratching it and the caliper will come out if wiggled at the right angle.
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B1rdman
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So that retaining pin is only threaded at the head and not the tail? I may just drill it out then. I have another pin shipping to me sometime this week. I hope that rear one isn't also stripped but at this point I care more about the front brakes.

Thanks guys for the advice! I don't know why Buell felt the need to make that retention rod threaded when there's a threaded cap there to keep it from coming out anyways!
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Jramsey
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So that retaining pin is only threaded at the head and not the tail?
Yep.

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01x1buell
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have have a hell of a time doing this i have a hard time getting the right angle.
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Harleyelf
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bolt it back on the fork leg and clamp the wheel securely in place.
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01x1buell
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ohh i have done it plenty of times but it is never off in 5 seconds.
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Arizona_buell
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tacking a washer to it protects the surrounding area..
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01x1buell
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tacking a washer to it protects the surrounding area..
what do you mean by that.
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Jramsey
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what do you mean by that.
That's so you don't burn the paint around the bolt head like in my pic above.lol}
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01x1buell
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ahh i didnt put the two together .
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Arizona_buell
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes find a washer that the hole is about the size of the hole the allen wrench left and weld the washer to the bolt through the hole then weld a nut to the washer through the hole and wrench the bolt out.
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Pash
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As mentioned earlier, easier to split the caliper in half (4 screws - you can do this with it on the bike), clamp the pin in a vice and rotate the caliper body clockwise.

The removal of the caliper (assuming the pin comes out) is covered in the manual.

To avoid seized pins in future, use Copa Slip on the thread.

(Message edited by Pash on April 16, 2013)
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Harleyelf
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The pin is only attached to one side after you split the caliper. The caliper will come off easily once split. Unfortunately, the pin is screwed into the side with the hose attached. Taking it to a vise means disconnecting the hose.Filing a couple flat surfaces on the pin will give the vise grips something to hold on to. Have new parts on hand before you ruin your old ones to get them off.
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Psykick_machanik
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just loosen the disk and slip the caliper assembly off. be sure to properly torque it back on and your done.
Not what the book says but theirs always more than one way to do anything, just whatever your cumfy with.
Will be easier to deal with the stripped pin with the caliper in hand.
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just removed the pads.

Quick and easy.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I replace the pads, I use the old pads as a tool to push the pistons back in.
Otherwise, you end up playing whack-a-mole with them.
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Barrick09
Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2013 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had the same problem last summer, I removed the pad and pushed in the pistons, there was no way it was gonna clear, I ended up just breaking the caliper into 2 halves and changing what I needed and put it back together, don't recommend it but it worked for me.
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