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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 96S1 with 99,000 miles has intake fresh seals, a new Mikuni (6 months) and an older crane ignition. On two different rides, I'm just cruising along and BANG! the bike backfires out the pipe as loud as a hunting rifle. I checked the leads to the coil nice and tight. On the second ride I backed off the accelerator pump which did nothing to slow the backfiring. Has this happened to anyone here?
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Harleyms
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

fuel vapor building up in the muffler and then igniting? where's the bang coming from?
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Harleyelf
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You have an intermittent failure to spark. Take the easy steps first; new plugs, tight ends on the plug wires or new plug wires, check coil wiring under tank for worn insulation.... then it's your coil or cam position sensor or module.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You might be able to see the bad CPS on the tach... if it increases RPM when you are loosing speed but still in gear, you know the CPS is lying. Or if it drops to zero while you are still in gear and moving, you know it's lying.

A simple oscilloscope makes it easy to spot problems that are otherwise very difficult to track down.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thx i'll check electricals first.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I checked all of the wires, the fuel filter, and inspected the nose cone, couldn't find anything. I took it out onto the freeway gave it a blast or two and no problems. IDK what it was but it's gone now.

Thanks for all of your input. :-)
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't forget to check the kickstand kill switch (at the clutch lever).
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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

THX
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Dannybuell
Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got caught in a little Oregon sunshine last night. On the freeway it backfired but not as hard, I may be getting used to it.
When I looked down at the guages I noticed the tach needle was bouncing high and low at steady throttle.

Any new ideas?
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmmm..Possible vacuum leak at the VOES, failing VOES switch or possible intake manifold leak or combination of the three? Heck even an exhaust leak at the head/pipe connection can result in a back fire when decelerating..

I would start at the VOES...

Good Luck
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Creature_x1
Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know of a historic issue with crane hi-4 ignitions. If all else fails, look into that as well.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unstable tach means something in the ignition is being odd.
Perhaps it's not always odd enough to cause an actual misfire.
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bad coil or wire
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