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Inplansight
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guys, I have to replace the head bearings on my 98 Cyclone this weekend and I am not sure of the best way to support the front of the bike.

I have plenty of car jacks and jack-stands but nothing geared towards motorcycles. I was thinking of making a cradled of sorts out of 2x4's to let the bike sit on the engine, would this be ok? I did some searching on this forum and discovered someone had cracked their engine case (hard jack pad) and do not want to have any issues after the fact.

Thanks Paul B
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Purpony
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hang mine with tie down straps from the rafters....
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The cases are plenty strong, so as long as you aren't trying to pierce them with some kind of point or wedge, I don't think you could hurt them.

Its tippy doing it from the bottom though. If you can suspend it from above that will help (roof joists maybe).

I'd put a rod through the rear axle, support it on either sides with jackstands, then use a floor jack to support and lift the front of the bike as far forward as is convenient. So much the better if you can get a bike lift, so you can also strap the bike down (maybe by the footpegs) to keep it from tipping.
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Gmaan03
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes hang it. I tried the jack stands once! Never again!
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't want my bike to fall when I am working on it and most under-the-bike set ups just don't seem stable enough to me.

My solution:
I remove the rear footpegs and reinstall them upside down. That lets me use them on jack stands to support the rear end.

Then I hang the front from a step ladder with soft hook straps on the frame by the steering head.

It is cheap, easy to do and super stable.

Hope this helps.
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Inplansight
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did think of hanging the bike, but I have to take the triple tree apart to service the bearings. I do like the ladder ideal, will have to take a better look at that tonight.

Thanks Paul B
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Kilroy
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

simple to take the tank off, then you have frame points that you can "tie" onto to hang it from above
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried the ladder once, and it was forever in the way and brought its own set of headaches. Maybe a bigger ladder would have helped, but it was a mess. FWIW.

One other approach used a long time ago was super heavy metal shelving frame kits, and using them to suspend the bike. It has to be super beefy though.
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89rs1200
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Personally I purchased an engine hoist years ago. This is the only tool I use to lift the front or the back of my Buells. Very stable. If it is to hang for long, I roll the bike and hoist to the rafter and hang it there.

NOTE: Always use two or more straps on each side. I inadvertently leaned on the hanging bike once and brake a strap.

Also, when removing engine and frame mounts, a floor jack, with a wood 'floor' on the jack forks, is handy to jack and hold the engine/swingarm from below while the frame/forks are hanging.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get two jackstands and a 36" piece of allthread.

Slide the allthread through the rear axle. Put the ends on the jackstands.

Lift the front with a Pit Bull stand or similar. Once it's up, either brace from underneath or use ratchet straps to the rafters to keep it up.
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Lakes
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i got a custom made bike stand with my bike, last owner gave it to me it works, holds bike up with footpegs, i then get a trolly jack & wood block and jack front up useing the front shock mount with block of wood to protect mount it works i have removed the front end like this was not hard .
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Coxster
Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a buddy help me from time to time. He has two loops in the floor for tie down straps ( about 7 ft apart), and uses various 2x4 cradles to jack our bikes up as needed. We pulled the rear wheel on my cyclone in less than 15 minutes - and you can blame some fasteners on the rear wheel cover for taking that long ; )
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Scntekir
Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Engine hoist, for sure.


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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Vincent ,that's going to be a shiny buell
Nice work!
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Scntekir
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2012 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks!
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Harleyelf
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2012 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use a packing strap hung over a seven foot ladder.
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2012 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have always used a small HYD jack and two old car body stands ...

They have served me well for 15 years ...
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S1owner
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2012 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use straps to the ceiling then lower the table as needed. Lowered the motor out then lifted it back in
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S1owner
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2012 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Feeling funny so i say a good job an understanding wife and alot of caressing in the garage is the best support!
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Scntekir
Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ha! Well stated!
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