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Hogluvr
Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine came with what I can best describe as a "drag pipe" bolted on in place of the muffler. What can I use that has a 2" inlet and no elbow??
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get an automotive spacer, 2" to 2.5", and you can use a Buell race can. Perfect length. I did it for years on my S2, and may go back to it unless I can find a nice stock muffler. That Supertrapp is pissing me off...
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Bassboy3313
Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a Supertrapp muffler on my S2.

Ratbuell --> What dont you like about your Supertrapp?
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Rex
Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Supertrapp on one S2, and Vance and Hines on the other. would like to have a stock muffler too.
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Bartimus
Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have used a Vance & Hines for the last 10 yers. Works well, sounds good, and has given me zero problems...
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Jumbo_petite
Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stock on my S2

Ratbuell-- not looking to rid myself of the stock muffler but if you find a stock muffler and want to sell the Supertrapp let me know

JP

(Message edited by jumbo petite on April 30, 2012)

(Message edited by jumbo petite on April 30, 2012)
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Bigslug
Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine came with a Supertrapp, but I replaced it with a stock muffler.

Mike
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Velocity
Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Michael, If you need one I have several different brands laying around that are not getting used... Let me know we could work out a deal.


Scott
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The supertrapp is "blatty". It puts out a midrange-audio frequency that severely disagrees with my ears and helmet. Pink noise, if you will. I much prefer sweet silence (stock exhausts on the Uly and CR), or a deeper rumble like the factory race muffler.
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Hogluvr
Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scott,

Sent you a pm
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Jvv
Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a supertrapp on my S2. Been trouble free for 17 yrs.

I had V & H, and race mufflers on my other Buells.....(with a fair amount of breakage).

Like RB said.....The supertrapp sound leaves a little to be desired......(but I am putting the "new" 2 1/2 inch supertrapp on the S2. Hope it sounds better.

Ride safe.....Jack
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S2pengy
Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a supertrapp with closed end cap on S2t & Borla/Bartels on the S2...
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Velocity
Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hogluvr, pic's sent...


Scott
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Fahren
Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This thread is useless without audio.
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Sportyeric
Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2012 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a place to hang a question. My Vance and Hines, I've just noticed, contacts the primary adjustment screw. I'm considering pounding a dent into the muffler for clearance.I know people have done that for tranny oil changes but I don't remember it being so tight before. Anyone else with a V&H on an S2?
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Fireball7709
Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW_GHU5IMvs

Supertrapp, open end.
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Shot_gun
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had supertrap and the V&H mufflers. The suppertrap left soot all over the back of the bike an sound all that great, The V&H muffler sounded good but kept braking the mounts on the elbow. I replaced the whole get up with a system from American Sport Bike. It sounds good is light and it brings the muffler up along side the swing arm like a more conventional sportbike exhaust. It makes changing tranny oil loads easier.

(Message edited by shot_gun on May 07, 2012)
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Essmjay
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My V&H has a dent there Eric.
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Velocity
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey since Hogluvr, bought a pipe, I have 2 for sale in the classified section both are V&H


Scott
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Jsunstar
Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

97 s1W header and supertrapp inside disk muffler. (race muffler basically)
best option out there
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96s2t
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a carbon fiber V&H slip on and have had many problems with breaking the stainless wrap mount that secures it to the bike. Broke 4 of them until I rubber mounted it. It sounds great. I have a stainless V&H as a backup. Never liked the supertrapp.

(Message edited by 96s2t on June 10, 2012)
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Fahren
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You mean a rubber washer or washers at the bolt, to isolate the vibes?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just to clarify, the IDS muffler is NOT much like the race muffler. It was marketed as a "race slip-on" back in the day, for folks who didn't want to spring for the complete race system that included header, muffler, intake, and ignition box.

The IDS muffler is a chambered, add-or-remove-discs-to-tune, Supertrapp.

The Buell Race muffler is a single-cavity muffler packed with fiberglass or other media, and requires repacking from time to time.

Completely different animals. Similar sound depending how you tune the IDS muffler, but VERY different internals.
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Jsunstar
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah. Correct. I should of clarified Better. What I meant was that is what was available for race muffler in its day... makes better HP than anything available in its day...
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96s2t
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fahren, Yes...thick rubber washers to take the stress off the pipe when it is bolted to the bike. About the Supertrapp. I believe this pipe is great if you are racing at different tracks with changes in altitude and you are experimenting with carbs etc. Adding plates is a great way to tune the pipe. As a road rider I don't like the way it looks and don't like the soot that goes everywhere. The V&H has the look, nice sound and resonable power numbers. You can also remove half the packing for a fuller sound. I have done this and have over 70,000 miles on it and it still doesn't need repacking. I did experiment with no packing and it seemed to loose bottom end power and was a bit too loud.For me, V&H was the only choice.
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Fahren
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not yet sold on the Supertrapp (external discs). Depending on the build of the bike, and how much you want to optimize power, you may end up with a ton of discs and a really loud pipe. I need to re-pack mine, see if that makes any difference. It had what almost looks like a canvas-wrapped packing material in around the core when I pulled it apart. Some sort of fireproof fabric wrap around insulation?
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Essmjay
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just put on the carbon fiber V&H but I don't have the original mounting. I improvised using the stock muffler drop bracket and heavy duty hose clamps. Sounds like i will take spare clamps with me and check it frequently. I also repacked it as there was no packing in it. I was unable to find stainless steel wool to use on short notice. So I used a coarse regular steel wool and then wrapped that with fiber glass pipe insulation, then covered with a tube of aluminum made from dryer duct. I did this after seeing photos of the carbon fiber cans melted from heat after losing the packing. So the aluminum is a liner to protect the carbon fiber. My only concern is that the regular steel wool will rust from the exhaust moisture and send bits of rusty metal shooting out the back. I will pull it apart after I get back from the S2 Roundup and see how it did after 5000 miles of riding.
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96s2t
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go to your local M/C dealer and buy the correct repacking material for aftermarket dirt bike exaust systems. Get rid of the aluminum and steel wool.
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Essmjay
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe next time. I did a lot of searching and found lots of good input on using steel wool, only difference here is it isn't stainless steel. Using the steel wool and fiberglass wrap let me wrap the core before inserting it, unlike the dirt bike packing where you have to stuff it in. The aluminum I will keep, it matches the outer shell like a second skin and adds a lot of support and protection to the carbon fiber shell. Its not wrapped around the core, it is an insert on the outer shell.

But for now, it is going on a long ride. Ultimate test bench.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not mine, but a pretty good price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buell-S2-S2T-Vance-Hines-S S2R-ALUMINUM-MUFFLER-USED-in-Very-Good-Condition-/ 150831895796?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash =item231e4814f4&vxp=mtr
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