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Scow1
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2012 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just picked up a nice set of PM rims for my X1 and was wondering what size tires for front and rear will fit. From what I read I think the rear can take a 180/55 and not sure on the front 120/55. Can someone verify these sizes? Thanks
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2012 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

without a manual in front of me, I wouldn't want to comment all the exact dimensions front and rear, but the main difference between PM and cast wheels is that the PM were designed to take a 180 rear. Cast were designed to take a 170, although most people still run a 180 on them.
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Willyboy386
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stock X1 Front Tire 120/70ZR17

Stock rear is a 170/60-17 Though can run a 180/55ZR17
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Purpony
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the stock 5" wheel takes a 170

the PM is a 5.5, so it takes a 180/55/17
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the stock 5" wheel takes a 170

the PM is a 5.5, so it takes a 180/55/17


This be the truth.
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Koz5150
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ihave ridden both a 180 and a 170 on my PM rims. I prefer the 170 as the 180 make the bike more difficult to turn. It's not to the point of causing a major issue, but I did notice it.
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run 190/55/r17 on the rear (stock is 180/55/r17)
And 120/55/r17 on the front!
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine came stock with a 170 on the PM rim. I too have noticed that it handles a bit better with a 170 vs. a 180, even with the 5.5 inch PM rim. A 180 barely clears the belt.
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Harleyms
Posted on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my 98 S1W still had the stock tires on it when I got it (2700 miles) and even with the PM's it came with a 170 rear...that's what went back on it....anyone want the dryrotted stockers lol
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Thylacine
Posted on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run a 190. But I most agree a 170. Even on the 5.5 inch rim best suits the bikes handling.
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S1wl
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2012 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To open another can of worms - I will be buying tires this spring and the selection in the 170/60-17 is small compaired to the 180/55-17.

How do you get a 190/55-17 to clear the belt? I was looking at my clearance with a 170 in place - about 8mm gap between tire and belt.
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Thylacine
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For some reason it fits fine. Never even sort of rubbed. I have heard it doesn't work for some.
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Willyboy386
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the 190 or 200 you would be looking at a chain drive conversion
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Kyrocket
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would that be a PM? I run a 190 on a cast wheel and have never had a rub on the belt.
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Skntpig
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Depends on the tire manufacturer. My 97 S1 PMs came stock with a 170. I've put a 180 on it and it works fine but the pegs and kickstand drag before I get to the edge of the tire so it's really too large. I wouldn't try a 190 unless you really don't ride aggressively.

(Message edited by skntpig on March 06, 2012)
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 190 metzler with pm wheel and stock belt fits fine rides fine look at my profile pic its on there. Really you are talking a couple MM between the 180 and 190 i just looked at them side by side it is very small diffrence
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S1wl
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In terms of tires, I thought the 170 was overall width in millimeters.

So if my tire to belt gap is 8mm with a 170 tire (on a 5 inch wide rim) then putting a 180 tire (on a 5.5 inch wide rim) should have a 3mm tire to belt gap.

What is the tire to belt gap and rim width of you that have 190 tires on?
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When i get it back together i can measure it as of now its fully disassembled
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Skntpig
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S1wl...
The 170 is for the full circumference including the sidewall. That's what the /55/ or /50/ changes.
This is the reason your simple math won't work. The overall profile of the tire makes a difference in the width between one 180 to another 180 manufacturer too. There can be probably 3mm-5mm difference with the "same size".
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Skntpig
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2384/Motorcycle-Phot o-Gallery/2010-Street-Motorcycle-Tire-Comparison.a spx
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also, squeezing a 190 onto a rim that's too small for it will keep the tire narrower as well. It will also give it a goofy tread profile with a flatter center and more curved shoulders.
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