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Oli
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2011 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The other day I went at my HD dealer for a service and till
then they kept my bike because there are some recalls...

So they will change:

-The swingarm

-The rear schock

-some parts in the gas tank


Has someone experimented such thing ?
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Buellish
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2011 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oliver,the recalls you mentioned have been around since 2000 I believe.
Shock,swing arm,fuel tank vent and fuel tank retention.
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Easy_rider
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2011 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, No, No, No, No!!!!!
Do all you can to retain the parts. Some of us prefer the original look!
By all means, research and understand the reasons and risks associated with the original design, but I wouldn't do it.
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Buellish
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2011 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roger,the shock can fail and cause Catastrophic results.S2pengy has pics of his '96 S2T sitting on the shock and muffler.Not a pretty site.The only thing that kept him from going down was his low speed.
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Oli
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2011 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So lucky I am !

Is there a big difference between the stock parts and the New ones ?
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2011 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The main reason my wife stopped riding her S2T was due to the changes that occurred when we did the recall on it.

It sat higher, handled different, and rode differently than prior to the work being done.

All of that made it less desirable to ride, so she swiped my RoadKing instead of taking the S2 out. Ended up selling it rather then have it sit in the garage unused.

As an aside, the usually Buell-savvy shop that did the recall work sent it back with the belt set up like a fanbelt - so tight it was under tension.

My RS had that same shock, if I'm not mistaken, and it was NOT recalled on those models.
If the shock was so prone to break (which a very few did, unfortunately) wouldn't they recall the earlier bikes that had them?

I'm with E R above on the recall matter.

Al
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Easy_rider
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Admittedly, I can't tell you why any of the items were recalled. The swingarm may very well have needed some reinforcement that required the recall. Same with the gas tank vent. Why a right angle outlet is that much more important than one straight out is beyond me. I just know that there are those with more experience with me that desire the original design.
Then there's the shock. Something about that exposed spring that evokes a completely different emotion when looking at the bike. All reports of shock failure I've seen points to the user's desire to pull the front wheel off the ground. Again, it's all "legend" with no first hand knowledge. My understanding is that the original also doesn't handle a passenger well, or a large pilot for that matter. From the two I've seen the rubber may be dried out in your original by now. It still has value (in the $100 - $200 range) to a contingent of S2 owners.
I'll stick with "do all you can" and "research". Having a couple new parts with some old backups can't hurt....
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S2pengy
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Having known about and talked to Erik about the recall on the rear shock I checked mine regularly on my S2t with every 2500 maintenance check. During the time I have owned it (since 98) I never had the front wheel off the ground except for maintenance.. The bike had never been wrecked that I am aware of but had been dropped twice that I am aware of, both times falling off the kickstand (never leave a S2 idling on the kickstand).. But it snapped at the rear eyelet at 40 mph in Nov of 2010.. The rubber bushing was still in good condition. I agree that the newest Showa doesn't ride the same and also doesn't look nearly as good... That is why I didn't get the recall done when I did my other S2.. The rear eyelet actually broke at the bottom forward point and peeled around the back.. The rear eyelet metal is surprising thin if you don't believe me pull the bushing and take a look...
About the recall on the swingarm the orginal had gaps between the welds with plate acting as reinforcing. The new unit has continuous welds and is box reinforced.
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Onahog
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The dealer keeps the old parts for liabilty reasons ,i was told at the time my bike was recalled...The parts were supposed to be destroyed after removal...
guess some bikes didnt get done, or parts snuck out the back door...Im surprised yours is still getting done!!!Hb
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Erik2
Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My S2 has had only the fairing support recall done. It still has the original shock, swing arm, vent, etc. When I take my bike to the dealer for service, I tell them at the outset they are to do no recall work on it. I have never had any pushback or refusal by them to work on it.
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Oli
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Totally satisfied !

Better handling, comfort and a great feeling of safety.

A New bike indeed !

And what a look ! Thank you HD.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, that is actually the FIRST time I have heard of an actual person having that shock fail,and I thought is was the front eye that was the culprit.
IIRC the original recall was caused by an overzealous magazine writer or such thrashing the daylights out of a bike.
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Pm2237
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello all, New to buel.Recently acquired a 1996 S2-T. How can one tell if the recalls have been done to the motorcycle? mine appears to have the new style swingarm with the brake stay in the arm rather than on top, I don't know what the updated shock looks like though. I read about a tank vent issue also. any help greatly appreciated, I don't want to wad the new toy, this bike is a keeper. It is my first Buell, I have owned Duc's, Beemers and Jap bikes, the Buell has WAY more character than any of them. Can't believe it took me this long to realize this.
Cheers, Jeff
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Swing by a dealer. They can tell you if there are any outstanding recalls for your VIN.
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Pm2237
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Hoot, All recalls had been done by its orig. owner. found out some of its history also, may be able to get the signature stuff.
Got it off of a college kid that had no idea what it was, only cost me 1600$ with the luggage and a nice Arai helmet. it suffers from lack of maintenance but otherwise it is in excellent shape, 18K on the ODO. Just want to give the care it deserves.
Best regards, Jeff
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Essmjay
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another one saved from the parts bin of history! Way to go! That is a great deal and you are always going to like the bike, I still think the S2 is the best all around bike I have ever owned, never fails to put a grin on my face, even when something breaks it just becomes an adventure. Someday soon, the only S2's left intact will be owned by folks like you and the rest of us who appreciate them for more than the value of the parts they contain.

Shane
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The CARBURETOR S3 Models will soon be as are the S2's are now !!!
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Fahren
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$1600 is an amazing find. Wow. Now you and Oli must both share pictures with the rest of us.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, especially for one with bags. Great find.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's the first I've heard of an actual "in service" failure as well.

I had one fail at about 85mph but it was not a production bike or shock. I got some amazing photos when it happened on I-35, South of Oklahoma City, in heavy traffic.

The problem with the shock had nothing to do with the fitness for purpose of the design or the engineering and everything to do with a less than diligent vendor. Common thought, pure conjecture, is that there may be a population of zero, or a very small number of shocks that are ACTUALLY bad.

But . . . when Dave U and his staff found out there COULD be ANY bad, they recalled everything.

Most . . make that MOST. . . the Buell recalls that folks get so stirred about would have never raised an eye brow at any other company in the world.

Court
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Court
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By the way . . . .for the sake of those who haven't been hanging around here for 20+ years. S2Pengy is one of the foremost authorities on Buell S2's so this is an excellent source of information.
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The SHOCKS with the alloy(aluminum)eyelets were the ones that were to be replaced, "BUT" there was no engine number records indicating what shock they had ...

"SO", there was a shotgun recall and everybody got a new shock and of some
them did not last very long for some reason ...

Is that true COURT ???

"i" knew how to use a magnet, so the magnet would stick to both eyelets "AND" "i" am still running the OEM Shock that came on my 1997 S3T with a spring rated at 500 pounds for two over weight people(my wife and "i") ...
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Screamer
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2012 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The easiest way to check for recalls is through a dealer. The 0817 Shock Recall and the 0820 Shock recall had two different root causes - but very similar failures, but neither involved "aluminum eyelets".
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