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Two_seasons
| Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 12:21 am: |
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This would be installed on my 1999. I want to order the Penske 8983 rear shock from American Sport Bike. My thought is it's the gold standard in rear shock tuning, single or two-up. I also want to improve or upgrade the front stock Showa forks. However, I'm not sure about needing to replace the fork springs with the Race Tech fork springs that Al and Joanne offer at American Sport Bike. Would only the Gold Valve Spring Kit be sufficient to get what I want, which would be an ultra control street X1 Lightning? Thanks in advance for helping me decide...Steve |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 08:27 am: |
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It depends on what part of the handling you are trying to address. Damping, yes, the gold valve kit will do it. But, do you have wrist-shock? Pogo? Nosedive under braking? Pinpoint the attributes you don't like first, then decide if those attributes will require a damping change or a spring change. If you still aren't sure...call and talk to Al. He's a great guy, and can certainly set you straight (without turning it into a sales pitch). He will get you what you need, not what he needs to sell |
Blks1l
| Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 09:05 am: |
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You need to find out the spring rate of springs currently installed, and see what is recomended for your weight. I put heavier springs in my S3T, and put the S3T springs in my X1 forked S1 with Gold valves. |
Two_seasons
| Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 09:39 am: |
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No wrist shock, no pogo, and a little nosedive with current setup, which currently is all stock with about 17,000 miles. When I ride two-up, there is a lot of sinking on the back end. Could just be a pre-load, but I recall reading that the factory Showa rear shock isn't much for two-up riding. That is why, for me, no question the rear Showa is going. The front does nosedive a little under heavy braking, but not any different than the 2000 X1 I own with a little over 10,000 on the clock. There is a little difference from the 1125 I own with 7,000 miles, the 1125 being easier to nosedive with under heavy braking in the initial inch of travel. That may be because the rear 1125 shock has a lot of pre-load currently. As you have gathered, I'm not a suspension guru. I only know what I've done with motocross forks back in the 1970's and you remember how little we had to work with back then. Compared to today, it was like riding a hard tail in the dirt. The upside is there are two X1's to compare changes in preload, damping, and rebound. |
46champ
| Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 11:44 am: |
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Two seasons there is a link from the American sport bike page to figure out the proper spring rate.http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/6012.html press where it says here} |
Two_seasons
| Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 12:49 pm: |
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46, yeah I saw that. Do you happen to know the original length of the Showa fork springs? Then I could measure them. Thanks. |
Dfbutler
| Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 03:27 pm: |
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I upgrade to the Race Tech springs based on my weight and the Gold Valves. Made a positive impact on both solo and two up riding. |
Two_seasons
| Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 06:08 am: |
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Thanks Don. |
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