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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's a stock sporty unit. The screaming eagle one has a flat backplate, two standoffs for the cover to mount to and an oval K&N filter.
p/n "26" - interesting I don't think I've seen a RS with an insert from the factory?
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Rex
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The RS/RSS brochure clearly shows the trim. Here are some excerpts from it:

a/c trim


a/c trim 2


a/c trim 3


Haven't gone through my old pics from inside the (old) factory yet...
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's it say on it and how can I get one?

Anyone find a shop that can rebuild the shocks? WP turned me down, Trackside Engineering rebuilt it but couldn't replace the cracked (and leaking) line for the remote reservoir.
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Steeleagle
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The parts catalog refers to the trim piece as HD P/N 29111-88, and it appears to still be available from Harley as "XL-1200 air cleaner trim".
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Agusta74
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

These four holes in my shifter lever wont be factory will they? It's aluminum and the ones I have seen on ebay are chromed... any ideas on where to buy another aluminum one?

Just put a magnet on my handle bars.... non magnetic! Must be stainless steel!

Regards
Gavin



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Rich
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ThAt shift lever doesn't look stock. The stock one is avail le from HD, I'm sure.
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The H-D shift lever is, I think aluminum but polished or even chromed. We did not drill them out. We used what ever one was stock on the Sporty for those years.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>These four holes in my shifter lever wont be factory will they?

That would have violated the special "small manufacturer" provision the bikes were manufactured under.

I Buell (and Dave will have to confirm this) had WANTED to drill the holes they would not have been allowed to.

In terms of replacement, and the wonder of owning one of these, it's a Sportster part and there were over 1,000,000 made so it should be a snap.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those four holes must add some serious powah!

I love this thread!
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I Buell (and Dave will have to confirm this) had WANTED to drill the holes they would not have been allowed to.

I think that the lever would have been OK to modify, we keep it because it worked. We moved around the shaft to allow the rearsets to work.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>I love this thread!

And I love Dave.

Keeping me on the straight and narrow for going on 3 decades!

He's not only smarter than I . . he's got a far better memory!

I'm sure . . . just any year now . . . I'll be able to correct his political views and have it straightened out.

: )
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Rich
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gavin, I just looked at my new, spare muffler and it has five plates, plus the end plate. I think I'm running twenty, plus an open end plate on my bike.

Here's a cellphone pic of a pic of mine with the polished Sportster shifter on it-



Here it is at Daytona a couple weeks ago(pic by whatever)-





(Message edited by Rich on March 23, 2011)

(Message edited by Rich on March 23, 2011)
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll be able to correct his political views and have it straightened out Nah, you haven't got a chance, even the capitalists are on my side; ) I just read a good piece in INC magazine about how Norway proves that socialism is great for encouraging entrepreneurs!
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looking at an old Buell parts book the air cleaner backing plate is not as i remember it. It pretty much looks like the ones pictured. in '92 the metal adaptor went away and we had a one piece backing plate adaptor made of fiberglass I think.

The engines we used meet EPA because we used them unmodified and H-D had already had them certified. I think the rule was that we could touch nothing from the carb mouth to the spot were the exhaust piper entered the engine. The muffler was could be changed but we had to pass the noise rule so we did not have many plates in the Supertrapp.

The bikes had to meet all the regulations, we had to buy lights and turn signals that already had DOT certifications. That is how we ended up with Yamaha TS and a Moto Guzzi taillight. The headlight was a stock car light.

Being fully legal was an enormous hurdle and Erik took no shortcuts. You can get him pretty riled up talking about all these so-called bike manufacturers building H-D clones without being legal. Fortunately they have mostly gone under or been busted.
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Steeleagle
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 04:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's the air cleaner assembly from my '92. Per Josh's description, it's an SE (...and NOT original Buell?):


AC 1 pc



AC 2 pc



AC 3 pc


(Removable) Trim piece says SE, too.
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Court
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 05:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those photos look kinda familiar and they seem to correspond with some parts I have floating around in the bottom of an old toolbox.
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Josh_
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yup, Screaming Eagle aircleaner, which is also the box that Dave posted a pic of earlier.

Note the round venturi - that alone made a little difference and Sporty guys were hacking their airboxes and adding that part as a poor-man's SE kit back in the day.

I've seen that done in aluminum also, not sure who was making that?
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Steeleagle
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So it seems all I've seen so far is either the stock Sporty of SE versions of the air cleaner and backing plate assemblies, both with the steel carb support/offset part number 15a in the parts manual (below).


Parts Manual-AC


I have yet to see a real part number 23 in the manual and would LOVE to lay my hands on one...or two...or maybe three! Per the manual, that version eliminates (or integrates) parts 15a, 16, 16a, 16b, 16c, 16d, 17, 18, 20, 23a, 23b, and 23c!

Pix, anyone? Inventory, anyone?
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Agusta74
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Update on Supertrapp discs....

Quoted from the 1990 RS1200 road test in Cycle mag "...and 11 discs instead of the standard 8 in the Supertrapp exhaust."

Interesting that the early RS tested was at that time fitted with mild SE cams.

I wonder what ever happened to that Blue bike that all the mags tested???

Regards
Gavin
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Steeleagle
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I need to stock up on the older magazine articles as well for those details. I just got confirmation that a '91 RSS is loaded on a truck and heading my way. It's hopefully just a cosmetic restoration VS the tear down '92 RS presents.
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Agusta74
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very cool Dennis! I look forward to pictures when it arrives!

I am planning to scan all the RS1200 articles I have so I can send you a set when I work out how to make the PC recoginise the scanner!

Including Australian and UK tests which might not be common in the US.
Regards
Gavin
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Steeleagle
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We need to coordinate articles. I have a few myself and there's some magazines available on eBay that I was planning on acquiring as reference. A nice collection of articles would be useful. Naturally we'd have to be wary of those pesky copyright issues regarding reproductions! Heaven knows there's FAR too many lawyers out there "practicing".
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Rich
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 06:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I keep forgetting to scrounge my stock a/c backing plate.
I know that I have it.
My bike did not come with the cover plate.
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Steeleagle
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Time to bump this back to the top. Here's my newest addition, delivered today. Some may recognize it. I haven't had a chance to really go over it yet in detail, but it's got a steep path back to stock, even from an appearance side. Here's a picture with it's older sibling in the background:


RSS1200-1991


It's a 1991 RSS, originally gunmetal. It came with extra parts, and it's missing key pieces, but the world is round...I'll get there!
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Agusta74
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dennis! You are a magnet for all the orphan RS machines out their! Good on you: )
More pics when you get a chance and a line up of the fleet please.
Regards
Gavin
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Steeleagle
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's an addiction, for sure. The '92 will require a very wide angle lens for a picture, as it's scattered over a very large area currently. I have an intermediate mission to accommodate, but after that, I'll be posting and asking a LOT of questions as I put its engine back together and upgrade running gear, etc.

For the '91 I'll probably be checking Airtech and Gustafsson for some pieces...or learning how to make molds!
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Geedee
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Agusta74
Don't mean to thread-jack, but you should get that sweet looking '98 S3 to join your beautiful RS1200. I'm watching it.
Regards,
Gary
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Agusta74
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hiya Gary,
Yeah I am watching it but I will not buy it as I have run out of money.
For those that don't know what we are talking about it is for sale in New Zealand on the "Trade Me" auction site: )
Regards
Gavin
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Agusta74
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RS1200 update...
New foot pegs arrived from the USA, the ones with the chrome end caps, yet to try fitting them. Bought a set of fork seals as one side has a slight leak.
And I have just bought a set of S2T hard saddle bags and rack which will be here later this year and I plan to see if I can modify them to fit to the RS.
I got Marzocchi decals for the forks but they are to big so I am going to have some made in the right size.
Yet to take it for a good ride.
Regards
Gavin
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