| Author | Message | ||
     Kevyn |
 gotta love the reverb boomin' down the alley! | ||
| Sportyeric |
Do I understand correctly that the Supertrap megaphone was the OEM muffler? | ||
| Kevyn |
Ummm, Court could speak to that better than I; not to mislead, but the SuperTrapp external disc was on mine when I bought it in 2001...it also had the 'race' style header along with some other dealer installed options/modifications. I do think Uke's HD/Buell had/has a fairly close relationship with the factory...is there such a thing as an original S2T? From what I can gather, the early years(95-97) were the 'halcion days' of Buell development under HD. Consider also, that modifications were coming out seemingly fast and furiously---hence the notion that the S2's were 'test beds' for many of the modifications. | ||
| Firemanjim |
Eric,stock muffler looked like all other stock Buell mufflers--about perfect for a studebaker.Supertrapp made the S-2 exhaust headers,not muffler.1996 was only year for an original S2T.Very obvious as they had a gray frame and gray sideplates(not bare aluminum) and then the obvious stuff like bags and lowers,high bars and lower pegs. | ||
| Sportyeric |
Paperwork screwed up by Canada Customs agent (deliberately, as a consequence of him reading some incomplimentary prose I wrote). So still no plates on the bike. Went for a rip around the block yesterday anyway (risking about $1000 fine, not counting speeding tickets). Sure runs up to the redline in a hurry! Don't know if its the rubber mount or the ported heads but I'll have to watch the tach more than the Sportster needed. Can't wait! Should be legal by the weekend, although the weather is still iffy enough to let it sit for a little while yet anyway (not like I have that kind of self-control.) And my twelve-year-old daughter thinks it looks better bra-less but thinks I'm a perv to call it that. | ||
| Court |
>>>>Do I understand correctly that the Supertrap megaphone was the OEM muffler? Supertrapp was the OEM Buell muffler until 1992. All S2's had the Buell muffler. It was a gifted piece of engineering that, due largely to aesthetics and weight, was received with little enthusiasm. Court | ||
| Crusty |
Here's a rhetorical question: Why is a Stainless Steel cylinder angled 45 degrees beside the rear wheel considered attractive, while a Stainless Steel cylinder parallel to the ground under the engine is "esthetically unattractive"? A non-motorcycling friend once told me that the stock muffler on my '98 S3 was absolutely beautiful, and he loved the look. | ||
| Kevyn |
Someone did me the favor of polishing the side plates and filling in the cut outs with matching body color. While they were busy polishing, they also cleaned off the wheels! Looks great when I take the time to clean them...the lowers were a constant shin jam on the right so they're safely stored. SuperTrapp manufactured the headers? Neat bit of trivia there! Well done too. Does anyone have a picture of an 'original' Buell muffler used on the S2 series? Not that I'd ever replace the race can with one, but it would be fun to have just to say you had 'an original Buell S2 muffler'!! | ||
| Kevyn |
FMJ, I've been really curious about your dual disc set up...how much did the Marchesini wheel off-set the weight gain from the extra disc and caliper? Do you notice any turn-in differences? Looks fantastic! | ||
| Simond |
You're not wrong Court. I've just refitted the standard S2 muffler and have been amazed at how little impact it had on performance over the Supertrapp that was on it before. The oe muffler Buell flat spot is nowhere near as pronounced as on the X1. The fact that I still have the stock sporty motor and that there is not that much power to lose in the first place probably helps! PS: thanks Dan | ||
| Doughnut |
I think my muffler is original. | ||
| Simond |
Kevyn, I think that Doughnut's bike above has the stock pipe but here's mine anyway:  | ||
| Kevyn |
Thanks Simon, nice S2T! What's the metal attachment on the fork? It's kinda hard to tell from the pic, but it appears that the muffler has an elbow bend going to the header collector? Hey Court, is the S2 muffler about or near the same as those on the S1 series?? I managed to retrieve an S1W muff from a basement clean out sale---what a find for a Buell enthusiast! Never mind what the GF said when I proudly displayed the trophy!! | ||
| Rex |
that muffler sure looks modern from the buell aspect....Mine is a supertrap looking one..original. I didn't think they put anything but the supertrap mufflers on the s-2's? I thought that the 97 models were the first years to use the buell specific mufflers, like the one on my 97 cyclone......rex | ||
| Simond |
Kevyn, The metal attachment is a holder for a UK Road Tax Disc. All vehicles in the UK have to display these to prove that we have paid our Road Tax. It has been many years, however, since the Govt spent much of that money on the roads though! No elbow on the muffler. See below - it just slips on to the end of the stock header.  Rex, I have the parts book in front of me. That is definitely the stock muffler. | ||
| S2pengy |
Yes, that is the stock unit... I have the orginal from my bike bought brand new off the dealer show room... I also demoed the S2 in March of 94 and that was the set up... Check out the magazine articles that did the orginal road tests all show that set up as well as the factory video, web site, and brochures ... Of course it is bigger and heavier than it looks in the photo..... | ||
| Court |
>>>Check out the magazine articles that did the orginal road tests all show that set up as well as the factory video, web site, and brochures ... Caution: Magazine and factory sales brochures can deceive. Often the tested "first look" bikes get small refinements made prior to production. Example: note the location of the sidestand on the yellow S1 on the cover of Cycle World in June/July(?) 1995. I also have a hilarious story about a snafu where a preproduction photo buck had a nice part that didn't make it onto production bikes, but clearly appeared on the cover of the Buell sales brochure. Remind me to tell you someday.....  | ||
| Crusty |
Right after the Parkway Blue story? I am nothing, if not persistent | ||
| Simond |
You don't want to hear it then...... When's the book coming out Court?! | ||
| Turnagain |
>> When's the book coming out Court?! I'm thinking I'd like him to skip to the full-on multi_f'n_media DVD extravaganza. whatcha say Court?   | ||
| Lornce |
"I also have a hilarious story about a snafu where a preproduction photo buck had a nice part that didn't make it onto production bikes, but clearly appeared on the cover of the Buell sales brochure. Remind me to tell you someday..... " You're not talking about the primary mounted side stand in the '96 S1 brochure pics, are you Court? Always wondered where mine went.  Neat thread, timely too: be bringing home my new-to-me '95 S2 in a week or so. It's red with a white frame and sig series #1021/1399 (whatever that means?). Can't wait to ride it, fits better than the S3. I love these tube trellis Buells. | ||
| Kcs2 |
Do any of you guys know the part # for a 7 pin screaming Eagle selectable ignition? I'm looking at upgrading the ignition on my S2 down the road. Thanks. | ||
| Firemanjim |
Go get a Dyna programmable 2000 or similar.Screaming eagle gets you a higher rev limit and that's about all/ | ||
| Kcs2 |
Jim, Aaron Wilson told me that Dyna makes the screaming eagle ignition and they are the same except for the different packaging. I just want to keep an eye out on ebay for a deal. Thanks. | ||
| Buellish |
I've made a couple of changes to the S2-T  VIN#4MZFT11HOT3000199  edited by buellish on April 03, 2004 | ||
| Buellish |
Sorry about the pic duplication. | ||
| Doughnut |
Does the 95 and 96 S2 have the same rear inner fender? | ||
| Firemanjim |
Same style,but the 95's were a nice carbon fiber and the 96's were painted--over the carbon fiber. | ||
| Court |
>>>Does the 95 and 96 S2 have the same rear inner fender? FMJH hit it. Only difference is 95 is "green" CF. 1996 is identical with vylon coating. | ||
| Sportyeric |
On the road!!!! Yeee-hah! Got enough of the paperwork done to get insurance and plates yesterday. Haven't done anything but ride to work and back but its nice! Weird. If I hit a bump, I'm expecting the wiggle-and-rebound that the Sportster offers. (That I've learned to respond to instinctively.)I'm almost distracted when it stays rock steady instead. Its also weird how much the gas tank shape holds you in. Can't hang off as easily as on the Sportster. No need to, I guess. Less likelyhood of getting pitched off too. It is taking a major revamping of my riding style. Nice ergonomics. Feels like a cruiser compared to the Sportster, for which my wrists thank me.The Sporty has grown painfully race-postured. Could do with the pegs back a couple of inches, maybe. Winter Project! Shifting is phenomenal! I think FMJ may have given me the wrong bike, cause this does not feel like a stock tranny! Its way nicer than my Sporty, which has the up-dated detente plate and a "Banke-style" shifter. What's the trick, Jim? Synthetic? But what a friggin' racket! A closed endcap for the Supertrapp is gonna come soon. Or a V&H. Right now it sounds like the Sporty did with a Thunderheader. Fun for a bit but too "in your face". Maybe I just have to hook up with the other Buellers in the hood and see who's noisiest. Sure gets the looks from everyone standing at the bus-stops or driving up the road. Stroke my humble ego!! | ||
| Bartimus |
Ha Ha Ha ! Glad to hear your on the road, ERIC! Too much fun, eh? Post some pics when ya can!} | ||
| Doughnut |
I was wondering. The Harley alphabet means things about the frame and engine and such. Is the same true of Buells? What does "S2" mean? | ||
| Court |
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| Doughnut |
Court, do I dare ask, or would it be opening a Pandora's Box?    | ||
| Bartimus |
S2 = Smile twice before opening throttle.. <vroom, vroom> | ||
| Sportyeric |
Now I'm really in the Buell club. After two days riding back and forth to work, I had a few hours scheduled for my first fun ride this afternoon AND THE FRIGGING BIKE WOULDN'T START! Might have just flooded it but it wouldn't clear by turning it over or letting it sit. Sparks OK. Air-filter off and it has fuel, or a liquid at least. The spit back out the carb seemed more like water than gas. Trying for look at the spark plugs, I discover that the back plug removal requires the tank to be lifted up an inch to fit the only wrench I've got that fits the spark plug. When I disconnect the air vent to remove the skin, I get a hissing noise. Vent hose is kinked. Could this have forced expanding fuel through the carb to relieve the pressure from being parked with a full tank last night? Anyway, unkinked that, replaced cruddy looking plugs with a new set of plugs of unknown origin. Put it all back together and it fires right up. Unfortunately, I've used up my riding time and family duties consume the rest of the day. Rain forecast for tomorrow. | ||
| Sportyeric |
Aaahhh! Redemption! One of those family duties was to fetch something for dinner so I took the long way to the supermarket and discovered along the way that in first gear at 3500rpm you can just roll on the throttle, give the bars a bit of a tug, and UP SHE COMES! | ||
| Road_thing |
Bummer. Did you have a strong gasoline odor while first trying to start it up? If so, it was probably flooded. If not, you might have had a partial vacuum in the tank. If the air in the tank was warmer when you parked it last than when you tried to start it this afternoon, it may have "shrunk" as it cooled; your blocked vent hose could have caused a slight vacuum. No air in the vent equals no gas out the petcock. These bikes will make mechanics out of all of us... r-t | ||
| Road_thing |
Bartimus-- mine's a '95, Yellow, signature plate says "36/1399" r-t | ||
| Firemanjim |
Hey,Eric,you aren't using that darn choke are you?Don't need it and you'll just foul the plugs.Oh,and you need a regular old combination wrench to get plugs out.It's a lot faster than lifting the tank. If your fuel vent line gets plugged/kinked it will act like its out of gas. | ||
| Bartimus |
RoadThing, do you have your cover? JoshA has a cover with your number, it is a "spare". You may want to check with him... scroll above and look at the list. | ||
| Road_thing |
Bartimus, Yes, I have it, it's on the bike, checked it last night as I was reading this thread. If I'm reading the list right, that nasty fireman has an obvious, blatant rip-off copy of my plate... ...maybe I should double-check the numbers on the bike, but according to my insurance card, my VIN is 1B9RT11H253133036. Come to think of it, I haven't seen my wristwatch since I shook FMJ's hand at Bonneville last year... ...hmmm... ...do ya think he coulda picked my pocket from 1700 miles away? r-t | ||
| Simond |
So it seems that we have 398 96 S2Ts (including my 396 of 398 + several others); maybe 200 96 S2s (Kaese's 56 of 200) and 1399 95 S2s (see Lornce's 1021 of 1399). That gives us 1997 in total. What are the other 150.... California models? | ||
| Sportyeric |
I'm sure it was the pinched vent hose, combined with a fill to the brim, and parking overnight. Problem solved. Yes, an open-end wrench is the first choice for spark plug removal. Got the old ones out that way but didn't have 11/16" wrench for the new ones that happened to be in my toolbox. But what's the magic you've laid on the tranny, Jim? Inquiring minds.......! | ||
| Firemanjim |
Stone stock with gentle treatment--no hamfisted no clutch shifts etc,just adjusted the primary and fresh syn.You can always tell when its time to change/adjust as the 2nd to 3rd shift will be just a little rough. | ||
| Gootch |
KcS2 I have used the dyna 2000 modual, first on dual fire because of my dual fire coil, and after on single with the Crane single fire coil. No matter what state of tune I had with this modual, I could not get it to perform as I hoped. I should have realized this when I noticed the same modual works on a 1340 evo and a 1200 sporty. Piston sizes are the same but the stroke is not. In the end I purchased the Buell Pro-Series modual part#32680-96Y and changed the plug connector. This is NOT just a higher rev modual, this modual is designed by the factory for the bikes they build and it'll offer a quicker advance curve and rev limmit. I truly believe the people who build the bike no what's best, and by the way I found no difference between single or dual modes. If it was on the first advance curve, I would get detonation at low revs, and on the last advance curve I would get it at higher RPM. The SE selectable curve ignition #32654-98 is built by Dyna but I don't believe all SE or Buell coils are. Sportyeric, how come no choke? Excuse my sarcasm, but is that 48 low speed jet washing down your cylinders, or has Jim installed a Blast carb? Don't take me serious, Cheers Stuart. KCS2 I'm not kidding about what I stated for you. I live Buell, it's what I do each day. Remember it's my opinion and I like to share this info. | ||
| Firemanjim |
Gootch,I found that all I ever had to do,even if the bike had sat for a week,was give throttle a couple wicks for accelerator pump ,and it would start right up.I used to do the enrichner/choke thing long ago,but fouled plugs a couple of times. I have used a Dyna 2000 on my S-2 on single fire for years with excellent results.It went 177 with it.And it made about that much HP. Roadthing,better check yer pockets better,I got more than that.My vin ends in 0000035,so I didn't steal THAT. | ||
| Kcs2 |
Gootch, Jim, Thanks for the input on the ignition. I just put 2004 XL heads, thunderstorm pistons, and SE 536 cams on the bike so an ignition will probably be next. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Need a bit of help from the S2 collective. Has anyone ever found a way to "tighten up" a floppy S2 mirror? My left mirror has started to drift as I ride, I'd like to keep it but after about 15 miles it's worthless unless readjusted. Brad | ||
| Henrik |
I have a similar problem, and remember someone (S2Pengy?) using Red Locktite on the washers to keep things in place. I'm guessing, that if someone could do some fine knurling of the mating surfaces, that would be good as well. Henrik | ||
| Mikej |
I remember someone found a replacement mirror off a Kawakaki or KTM model that sort of fit, or some other brand of bike. Looked about the same as the stock S2 mirrors, a pic was posted on the site here before one of the last major site-crashes. So far mine are staying in place, but I fear they may one day begin to drop as well. Hmmm, for some reason I'm now thinking the mirrors were off a snowmobile for some reason. | ||
| Gootch |
KcS2, with that kind of engine set up, the Dyna 2000 will probably be the choice. My motor was done up the same as the later Lightnings so I found the Lightning Pro-Series modual worked well. BluzM2, you can only tighten the mirror stem at the base of the mirror near where it mounts to the fairing. Peel back the glued down rubber and tighten with an allan wrench. If it's loose near the top, all I can suggest is purchasing new. Thanks, Stuart. |
