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Michelangelo
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It seems some Buell tanks are more prone to bubble than other (1998 White Lightning springs to mind).

I've heard diff reasons for this; so what do you all think? How can I avoid bubbling if I pick up a tank and have to repaint it?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Proper prep work.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

wasn't it supposed to be slightly porous tank issue?
i think i saw something that suggested you coat the inside of the tank so fuel vapor can't bleed through or something
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Fahren
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go ahead and coat the inside of your tank if you have faith that what you use to coat the inside of a plastic tank will stay on there any better than on a properly prepped plastic exterior.

Personally, I do not have that faith, and I would worry about crud getting into the fuel.

The plastic tanks are porous, and they need to be prepped and painted with the proper materials that will also breathe and not trap migrating gases that will bubble under a sealed paint membrane. (search function, old school and KV)

Other bike companies solved this by using a different plastic. Buell solved this by going back to tank covers over inner tanks, then of course the fuel in frame concept.

Re-painting will work, but must be done thoroughly, carefully and with the right prep and paints.

I have no idea how tank lining products would work, but I am not inclined to suggest you try and find out.
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Daveswan
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I keep the link bookmarked since I might be painting soon. Here it is!

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/385208.html?1218742635
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

wonder if that carbon fiber looking flexy stick on wrap stuff would hold up on a tank?

It's not just Buells. Every dirt bike I had with a plastic tank also needed special (and very expensive) stickers... they didn't even *try* and make paint stick.
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Kaput
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A nice solution would be a pre colored tank skin that you could form fit on top of the original tank.
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Michelangelo
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or one of them "wraps", graphic wraps.
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Lesco51
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Talked to Eric, he said it's micro fractures in the plastic. Problem I found is that if you repaint and don't get the comtainments out of the fractures it will bubble again. I am going to wash it briefly in actone , dry it and and put it in old oven at 200 deg and cook it out. Will keep you posted how it works.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We always bathed parts in MEK (Methyl Ethyl Ketone) before painting them, when I was doing rigging installations. Dunno how it would react with the plastic - if it would melt it or not - but it would clean ANYthing off machined metal!
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Lesco51
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have 2 idenital 96 S=1 in Red, One bubbles one don't
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Lesco51
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am just going to wash it for about 30 sec, hope cooking it will solve problem
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