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Dstaff
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Went for a great ride today and finished up and put the bike away in the garage. Later in the evening I was back in the garage and noticed oil on the back tire, mostly on the right side of the tire. It seemed lighter in color than the regular engine oil, there was also a little oil residue on the belt. I looked all over the buell and could not find where it was coming from. Any ideas?
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Zenfrogmaster
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it looks like this:



it's probably coming from your transmission vent hose (check under your seat), and the cause is a bad crank seal. Engine oil is going past the seal into the tranny, and the excess is blowing out the hose. Check your engine oil, as it might be a bit low, but it doesn't take much to do what you see here.
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Dstaff
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow... its like you took a picture of my bike, thanks
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Dstaff
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sorry but you've got a slow mechanic here; where is that seal at and how do I get at it? Thanks for your help again
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Fasted
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 01:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/370024.html?1214575981
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you do not use a catch container, make sure the hose is located to where it will drip(spill) on the ground and not tire ...
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Burdette
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You might want to check the oil line that runs from the filter to the pump.I had a similar problem.The fitting was leaking at the pump.You will need to remove the shock to repair the leak.I have a 2000 X-1,I assume its the same

(Message edited by burdette on February 16, 2009)
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Mick
Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a leaking oil line that ran over the sharp edge of the tranny case ,it wore thru
the covering and left a pin hole.
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Tripp
Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

also, could be cam cover gasket, i fixed this last year new metal gasket much nicer than old paper!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you try and install the crank seal without the right tool, err on the side of seating too high rather then too deep. If the rubber touches the balls on the bearing, it'll chew through in 4000 miles or so (DAMHIK).
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Hippyjoe
Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is probably primary fluid out of the vent hose... but it doesn't necessarily mean a blown sprocket shaft seal. Might just have too much primary fluid in the trans, happens all the time, especially if you hammer it.
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Dstaff
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you gents for your input, I was able to tear into the Buell today. Got the Primary cover off, and this little sleeve fell to the ground when I pulled the cover off. I have no idea where it goes, any input? Also, how do you pull the adjusting screw assembly out in order to access the nut to pull the clutch pack off? Thanks for your help. I am having trouble uploading the picture of that sleeve, I'll get it here soon.

Derick
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Dstaff
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here are the pics

sleeve



project
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Thunderhead
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that looks like the bushing that goes in the top right hole on the cover
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Thunderhead
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it looks like you got the ballramps out,now you are down to the snap ring.
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Thunderhead
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The the alignment dowel pin goes on the front and back of the primary cover.
The arrow above is pointing to the incorrect hole. move the arrow two holes to the right to the one on the back edge of the cover.
The other one goes on the front of the cover directly across from the rear one..
If you look at the back edge of the case, you can see the rear alignment dowel is still in place in the case.

Brad
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Hippyjoe
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I need to rant here... dude, if you don't know what the hell a locating dowel is, why the hell are you tearing your primary apart... You may only have needed to drain some excess fluid...

It looks like the trend these days with new Buellers is to tear their bikes apart, not knowing what they're doing... and now some of them are talking about parting out their fackups that they bought last year as running bikes.

#1 rule of riding a Harley: If it ain't broke, don't break it.

#2 is keep it simple.

/end of rant. Good luck.

P/S Look at the tools the one guy has laying on the floor... that's not how you fix a harley, it's how you break one.

/now the rant is over. Glad I got my bike from a little old man who never took it apart so he could post pictures online and learn how to lose money. LOL

once again... GOOD LUCK!!
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F_skinner
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dstaff, good job. The only way to learn is to do. We were all new to Buells at one time or another. By the time you get done you will know more about your bike than 90 percent of riders out there. The picture that was posted is very indicative of the shaft seal. I have noticed that when it happens it gets bad real quick. Like everything else there are other things that can cause oil to leak out the vent however they are not constant like a shaft seal failure. The service manual plus the BadWeb search function is an invaluable tool. These motors are extremely easy to work on, just take your time and note how everything is before you take it apart. I think you will find the most frustrating thing is getting parts.

Semper Fi
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Tripp
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 service manual is an invaluable tool!!
will be the best $60 you spend on the bike, between the book and badweb you should have everything you need for knowledge to wrench that awesome bike!!
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Dstaff
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hippyjoe, really… are you kidding me?

I guess I need to rant as well… dude. Maybe I don’t know where the hell a locating dowel goes because as F_Skinner said, I am trying to learn how to do this. It is possible that I don’t have the $240 I was quoted from the HD shop to spend on this repair because I’ve got a baby coming in June and right now some other things (like a crib, stroller, swing etc.) take precedence.

I would like to learn to use my new $60 manual that I bought last week; is it too much of pain for me to ask questions because I don’t know something and I need to learn? Would it be better just to write off the manual as a glorified booster seat for my new son to use in a few years? By the way Tripp, you’re right, it is good and helpful.

According to you, because I am a “new bueller”, I probably shouldn’t even have a bike left because I would have been parting it out since 2003 after I caused a “fackup” on my running bike.

Again, the question begs to be asked… are you kidding me? You’ve got an issue with the tools that I use? I came to this forum for help and you are just ridiculous.
Go ride your “old man Buell” that has never been taken apart. Go ahead and feel superior knowing that you are so wise. LOL at the poor fool who is trying something new. LOL at the pictures that are posted, knowing that you are saving cash while he wastes his.

Genuine thanks go out to the others who have helped me with this project. I aim for this to be a good learning experience and I am looking forward to the end so I can be back out on the road!

Semper Fi

Derick
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Dreadnaught1
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know Derick that Maine is filled with Liberal Hippies that know what is best for everyone else just like the government. They can know everything from just a picture. Its and arrogance thing, You would'n't understand.





I did not know jack about Buells but I had been a foreign car mechanic years ago. One manual, a bag of tools, a box of parts and it is better that ever and ready for the road. I know my bike better than 99% of people, american or burners especially Duc's and BMWS. I like it that way. Good luck and keep on wrenching.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey joe...I resent that!

I'm not gonna part her out...LOL

Lets see though...When the nearest dealer is 2hrs away, and I won't pay the "dealer" labor, you gotta learn somewhere right?

Oh, and there's no Bueller's around here either to help, so everything is a learning experience in the motor for me. Plus, it's too damn cold.

One other thing Joe...I've had it 2 years, not just "last year."


(Message edited by brinnutz on February 20, 2009)
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Hugie03flhr
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's like an old chevy that uses some ford partsSomehow it all comes together. Just ask the guys in Cuba LOL
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4dwuds
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We should be thankful to the poor guy that cant put his bike back together. Without them we would be paying dealer prices for new parts when a good used piece will do just as well. We all started somewhere, It is god's gift to man to tinker with stuff, that's how we learn what works and what don't, We also learn from others, some good, some bad. It's up to you what you want others to learn from you.
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