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Steveford
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just ordered a new front isolator for my S2 and the latest .TA part number is obsolete with no supercession.
SO now what do we do, drill out the center of the HarLee part and hope for the best?
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Brinnutz
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Order from American Sport Bike
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Jos51700
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I highly doubt that this is accurate.
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Jramsey
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

H-D part #16207-79D, $48.00 bucks, drill it out, align/install and forget about it.
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Steveford
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jramsey,
Have you tried this?
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Jramsey
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steveford
Yes twice, my S3T and just last week for a guy in town that just bought '02 Cyclone'

Look back in early August for the Urethane Iso thread.

I ended up buying Naustin's '01 S3T because of that thread and I wasn't really looking for another bike.

(Message edited by Jramsey on October 22, 2008)
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Jramsey
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW its best to ream the hole in a lathe if possible because of the -79Ds hourglass shaped bottom half.

It only takes about 30 seconds to do.
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Buellistic
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The BLAST use's the same FRONT ISOLATOR that came on my 1997 S3T ...

"i" see this as HARLEY-DAVIDSON Parts technician person "BUELLschitte" as usual !!!
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Tripp
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

l0501.ta is in fact obs., however if you punch the original part# in (at the dealer) there is a supersede that's current.
original # is 16207-79b which supersedes to l0501.2 is still an active part# and should be able to order on the 24th (been on b/o a little while), so anyways you can go to the after market (i suggest a.s.b.) using the 16207-79b for reference, or wait a couple days and order a l0501.2 from your local dealer or badweb sponsor dealer (precision/hd/buell).
from what i've discovered (having replaced mine on my m2 recently), the l0501.2 is a repackaged 16207-79b, whereas the l0501.ta is a manufac. named lord with a part# of j-21920 on the part, beyond that, the parts are nearly identical. btw i have 2 of the l0501.2 on order (b/o till the 24th) and one of the l0501.ta in stock.
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Buellistic
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you buy a FRONT ISOLATOR with a "BUELLschitte" Part Number, be sure to look on the isolator for the HARLEY-DAVIDSON PART NUMBER(it is on there some where) and you will then know when it was last up-dated letter by the -??(? the leter)number ...

This is RETRO-FITTED from the "BIG TWIN" front motor mount ...

The "BIG TWIN" sets on it while the BUELL hangs from it ...
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Steveford
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tripp,
Thanks for the clarification.
I have a .TA coming from Indiana, we'll see how long that one lasts.
If that craps out, I'll give Al a call.
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Steveford
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It showed up:
Lord (registered mark) J21920
MADE IN CHINA
They've gotta be kidding. No wonder they rip.
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Jramsey
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What did it cost?
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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just more "BUELLschitte" !!!

You can look for HARLEY-DAVIDSON go away just like "INDIAN" !!!
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98s3sns
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is this what you need?


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Steveford
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It cost around 17 or 18 bucks, I sure hope that the newer version is made in the US and lasts longer than the previous ones.
So far my record has been 15,000 miles and all is good on the X1 and S1.
10,000 miles and the S3 was trashed, can't say for certain if the S2 was original or not.
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Jreichner
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just to add to this post but when can you tell that you need new isolators? Curious because I have over 25k and have never had them replaced. When reading this thread I feel like I should have them replaced...
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Gowindward
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

James, Look here http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/397886.html?1222075248

for some photos of a very failed isolator.
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Steveford
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the record, L0501.TA does require drilling out the bushing with a 9/16 bit.
Wish I would have checked that right off the bat! The joys of rubber mounted motors...
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

but you can n buy the right part. it requires no drilling.
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Hippyjoe
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Just to add to this post but when can you tell that you need new isolators? Curious because I have over 25k and have never had them replaced. When reading this thread I feel like I should have them replaced..."

You can look up under your front end, use a flashlight, you can see if the rubber's torn. You don't always feel excess vibration. Best to look.

As for the part itself... not to beat a dead horse... I got a standard FXR front isolator from Drag Specialties, 20 bucks, dropped in with no mods.
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PN 16207-79D - fits with no drilling required.
EZ
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Jramsey
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"PN 16207-79D-fits with no drilling required."

Dunno' about you but I always had a tough time getting a .500 bolt to go through a .4375+ hole.
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EZ is a wantabe technician, just trying his best to learn and this is the "BUELLschitte" he puts out ...

Even if the BOOK is wrong he doesn't know it ...
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Jramsey
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wasn't knockin' him, I thought he might have used the 16207-79D for its intended purpose and not for a tuber replacement.
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At lease you taught him something he did not know ...
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually the Blast version sucks - 1/2 the the time they go bad ASAP the other half - their fine - and thats doing one side by side - lol - thats why I and others have been running the Stock number Buellistic recommended - so any ignorance I have is of course from what he didn't tell us - his usual - m.o. - lol - Of course I will admit to using Blast hardware which has been upgraded to 8.8 hardness - I buy it new with each replacement - so that may be the difference - though why would be beyond me since a single vibrates even worse than a twin.
EZ
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do not get your wantabe technician attitude confused with when someone tries to help you ...
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When in doubt buy it from, American Sport Bike if avaialble

But even the factory has miss packed some things



Diving for O-rings
the missing parts

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Oldog
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

dead Isos





This is a dead Iso.
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