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Torquemonster
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On Ebay right now. Lister doesnt specify which year it came from.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HARLEY-HD-BUELL-XB- REAR-PULLEY_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ10064QQihZ0 05QQitemZ150199231095QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Id like a pulley with three curved spokes to mimic the wheels on my M2- with the pulley's spokes pointing in opposite direction of the wheel.

If I didnt suck at photoshop, Id show you what I mean...
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Xldevil
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 02:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron,that broken pulley was not mine,so I´m not the one to tell the story-but I told that guy in advance,like some others did,that this 4 small spokes won´t stand the raw torque of a big inch V Twin.
I didn´t like that feathered,customized, sissy stile anyway.In my eyes it didn´t match the more masculine tuber´s stile and feeling.Hope you get what I mean: )
Although your spoked pulley is a very nice work,for myself I prefer the straight spoked look I ride.
Ralph

(Message edited by xldevil on January 01, 2008)
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I 1st got my bike 2 years ago I started looking around the web for custom pulleys. I found a page with about 6 custom pulleys on it for Buells that I believe were made by PM. I saved it as a favorite, but that computer was stolen and I assume the page has since been taken down as I cannot find it again.
One of the pulleys looked exactly like the PM Wheel! I don't know which way the spokes pointed, but I would guess they went the same way as the rim (which is actually the way I would want it). They were around $500 which was/is just too much money for me for bling....
I have never seen one of these on a bike or for sale new or used and that is why I started this thread!
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are there various sizes available to alter overall gearing?

If so, I would be interested in lowering the overall gearing of my M2 for acceleration. (Top speed is not as important.)

Any information on available pulley sizes and belt lengths would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Dave
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Dfbutler
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's PM web site. They have a variety of sprockets there, but it is not very user friendly:
http://www.performancemachine.com/
You could call and ask.
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Koz5150
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run the 26 tooth front sprocket and that has made my M2 run a little smoother in town. even so, I rarely find a use for 5th gear unless I am doing over 70 on the highway.
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Tripp
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the stock pulley has 61 teeth the euro pulley has 55 teeth part# 37727-97y, stock front (usa) is 27T euro is 29T part#40205-95 , switching to the euro set-up (if i remember correctly) gives an m2 x1 gearing, hopefully someone will jump in and correct me or elaborate.
for chrome the shark's tooth pulley can still be had (they are becoming rare as of late), on the other hand an inexpensive alternative is the pegasus satin chrome pulley cover #40214-01y badweb price $40.46 + ship. email me at parts@precisionhd.com i have one left: )
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Xldevil
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Changing to the european setup,which is equal for X1 or M2,will make the 5th gear worthless.The bike slows down when you shift from 4th to 5th.
Riding 27/61 is what a tuber is made for.The stupid european gearing was only introduced to pass noise emission laws in Europe.
Ralph
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's PM web site. They have a variety of sprockets there, but it is not very user friendly:


No kidding - navigating that sucked! None of those are Buell sprockets and even if they would make you one it is still going to be at least 5 bills.
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Wile_ecoyote
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will correct you, my X1 runs 27/61 stock. 02 X1 lightning. Maybe earlier years were the other ratio. I'm interested in how the machining is done on those ones ya'll show and if I sent a pair to you if it could be done. I have a few resources here but believe if you've done it once you know what your doin. Goin into this one blind with a fresh pair of pulleys.
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V74
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what size is the front pulley nut ?so i know what socket to get.
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Xldevil
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what size is the front pulley nut ?so i know what socket to get.
1 7/8"

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Baker-Drive-sprocke t-Nut-Socket-HARLEY-PARTS-TOOLS_W0QQitemZ250157044 347QQihZ015QQcategoryZ35572QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1V QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118
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Bad_karma
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 04:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stephen
That shaft is left handed threads. I messed around with the 27/61 - 29/55 pulleys until I settled on an aftermarket 26 front and the euro 55 in the rear.
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V74
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 06:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks,i knew about the left hand thread,have been thinking of putting a 27 lightweight one on from trojan when funds allow,by the way its steve not stephen,the other half calls me that when shes upset with me lol,
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V74
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anyone know the weight difference between the 29 and 27 tooth front pulleys ???it seems that trojan horse have stopped selling their lightweight pulleys so may purchase one from my local hd dealer and machine it lighter like the ones on here.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Weight diff negligable,only aftermarket ones are lighter. Al has some available. Buells in US came with either 27/61 or 29/61. All S-2's and some S-'s were 29 front while pretty much everything else was 27 front.The Euro bikes got the 55 rear,and had different rear axle adjusters as a result because of how far back the belt went.Not a great street combo esp with stock motors as 5th was too tall.
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V74
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

its very rare that i use 5th,55/27 was recommended on here,though not sure if the belt would rub the swingarm,trojan when they where selling the pulleys,said that there would be a weight loss of 500 to 700g,so i took that as a 200g weight difference between their 27 and 29 t lightweight pulleys,going on that,stock ones being all steel,should have a greater difference???
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Werewulf
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i put a light weight one on my v-rod and it wore out very quickly..
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Ericdhvac
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm new to Buell's and just got an 07' XB12CG for my wife, she's new to riding and this bike is low and short, both which she likes, I'm thinking of increasing the rear pulley size which should make low speed riding more comfortable for her and would like to know if the various pulleys for the H-D's would bolt up (Service Machine's for example), also, how is belt size handled for larger/ smaller pulley combos?

Thanks
Eric
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have to tell you, the difference in front pulleys is noticable. I have stock pulleys on my S1W and on my S2. Both bikes have thunderstorm top ends and cams, race ignitions, CF air cleaners and aftermarket exhausts. The S1W is a BEAST around town, but has nothing for top end. The S2 isn't as frantic around town, but still has plenty of acceleration...and really legs it out on the highway. Doesn't fall on its face in 5th, but loves to cruise at superlegal speeds. The S1W is a little more buzzy at highway speed, it feels like it's working harder because of the revs.
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Werewulf
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.bakerdrivetrain.com/drivetrainupgrades/ transmission-pulleys.htm#steelLonglife
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Firemanjim
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Eric,I do not think you can do the pulley swap on an XB as we could on a tuber--at least not easily. I am sure someone else with XB experience will chime in.
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Wile_ecoyote
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone running 26/61? How do you like it and do the revs run much higher in 5th gear rolling on the highway? BadKarma, your running 26/55. How does your bike run now?
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Koz5150
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run 26/61 and I love it. I still barely use 5th gear. Unless I am going to lock in on the highway at over 75, I run in 4th around 4,000 and my M2 is smooth. Bike is mostly stock with the exception of a modified WileyCo Exhaust (placed a tube halfway down the canister for less restriction) and a forcewinder intake.
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V74
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 07:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so now i know that a 27t stock cast iron pulley is 2.875 lbs,am not impressed buell,i think they should have put a lighter one on as stock,so what does a 29t stock pulley weigh ?
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Bad_karma
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Matthew
I have the 26/55 on my S1 and it works really well. It has a zippers 1250 kit. Not much difference in the first two gears, as far as loss of acceleration (if you where a normal sized biker it would make very little difference on the street) and about 300 rpm less at sixty. I tried the 29/55 and the bike would not pull the gear unless I was doing eighty before going into fifth. I chose the 26/55 to reduce unsprung weight and optimal gearing in the mountain twisties. Sorry Steve just pulled it off of your profile. Toying with the idea of the 883 primary gearing.
Joe

(Message edited by bad_karma on January 17, 2008)
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V74
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what ratio is the 883 primary gearing ???i am guessing smaller front sprocket and shorter chain ?
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Hugie03flhr
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X1devel, let me get this right. You are saying a buell w/ euro gears can't maintain or accelerate in 5th gear at highway speed? I find it hard to believe w/ the amount of low end torque a buell produces that it wound slow down. I had an 80 1000 sportster I geared up with a 22/46 sprockets and it hauled a$$ on the highway...Until I blew 3rd gear through the case trying to pull wheelies with that gearing
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I find the stock gearing perfect for where and how I ride - including the dragstrip, highway and mountains.
I just want it to look better.
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Xldevil
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hugie,the Autobahn is not a Highway.Here you can run your bike really at top speed and with the 29/55 gearing you don´t need no fifth gear.Believe or not.
Ralph
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