| Author | Message | ||
     Igneroid |
Well, I'm starting to modify/personalize my M2. I just ordered a Vance and Hines muffler for the unit. I have a K=N in the stock bread box but was thinking of this unit... http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/5031Pro.html and the Mikuni carb(HSR42). This air breather looks cool. Does any one have experience with one. Also, on ebay, there is a dual carb setup(used) with progressive linkage. Any thoughts on that setup? Thanks Percy | ||
| Guell |
i dont care for mine all that much, the previous owner put it on though. The butterfly valves can rattle some. IMO it has too many moving parts for an aircleaner... Its neat looking but i plan on running a force or a hbbi kit in the near future. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Percy (Igneroid), I really like this airbox (pictured below)from Airtech in California where I bought my full fairing but its very expensive at $156.00. Too much for me plus my ham can type is hidden behind my fairing. It would be a nice feature for a naked bike though painted to match the bike and would have plenty of knee clearence. Also check out some air cleaners for the metric crusiers that use the same carb as us. Some are really nice.   | ||
| Ducxl |
I don't understand the aversion to the stock breadbox at all.I like my X1 box fine. Can anyone post the numbers as to why the aftermarket ones are soooooooo superior? | ||
| Tripp |
somebody did post numbers at some point and from what i remember the buell race filter flowed the best, that was some time ago however. i'll see if i can find the dynos. | ||
| Tripp |
hmmm, neither of the top two are represented but here is a force vs. buell race - i've been happy with the race filter anyway  http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/11192.html?1113852451 | ||
| Warlizard |
My aversion to the stock airbox is it's ugly cheap plastic and it hides the motor. Even if I LOST HP by removing it, I still would. Igner - if you are tall I recommend the Forcewinder. IMO it looks and functions the best. No matter which one you choose, choose something and lose the breadbox. After all tubes are classified as "naked bikes", once you remove all the cheap ugly plastic, the beauty of the bike really comes thru. (Message edited by warlizard on October 07, 2007) | ||
| Igneroid |
I don't understand the aversion to the stock breadbox at all.I like my X1 box fine. Can anyone post the numbers as to why the aftermarket ones are soooooooo superior? I've only had this bike for a couple of months and after finding this place(badweb), I been checking out as many profiles/pic's as I can. I notice alot of aftermarket intakes(and some awesome looking bikes), sooooooo, bein the sheep that I am, I figured I'd get one too after some research. The air box on my bike gives it an unbalanced look in my opinion allthough, I'm getting used to it more each day.  I've already got a K+N element in the "bread box" so as far as performance goes, I probably don't need anything else.  } | ||
| Igneroid |
Thanks Guell for the evaluation and Bob T. for the info. I'll decide after I get some gig money(couple of weeks). Tripp, thanks for the dyno facts. From the results, Im thinkin if I had too much change in my pocket while on the bike, any advantages would be lost by the extra weight...heh Warlizard, your bike is awesome. Thats kinda the look I'm going for, obviously modded but not too far from stock, lots of attention to detail(sleeper of sorts). Anyhow, regardless of opinion, this is a cool place for greenhorns like my self to get the lowdown on this kind of info. Thanks all again. | ||
| Ducxl |
Igneroid,your Buell is absolutely beautiful as is.THAT breadbox is even MORE attractive than my X1 one.All you need is a fresh coat of paint on the muffler.NOTHING else. Save the "bling-bling" money for an 1125r or 1098. | ||
| Warlizard |
How can anyone consider that atrocious lump, almost like the motor has a tumor, attractive? It's even worse on the M2 because there is no scoop on right side to offset it. As far as painting the muffler, don't bother. It falls in the same category as the airbox - ugly. It is also far too quiet, you need to be heard to stay healthy. I thought the idea here was to give good advice? | ||
| Ducxl |
I AM giving good advice.From my perspective my X1 breadbox is fine in the way it filters incoming air.Forget the "bling-bling" | ||
| Tripp |
here's some bad advice, replace everything you can with carbon fiber! mwhahahaha!    | ||
| Danny_h__jesternut |
Think of the air intake as a frame slider. You want something to slide on, not dig in. | ||
| Ratbuell |
The only issue I and my 34 inch inseam had with the breadbox on my 99 M2 was knee clearance. I felt like I was hanging off the right side of the bike all the time my knee was so far out there. I run the cf race hamcan on my S1W, and the stock oval-on-angle on my S2...no knee clearance problems at all and it makes the bike look "lighter" to me by having less clutter. What it comes down to, though, is that you make what you want out of it Gorgeous bike, by the way. All black with the PMs looks awesome! | ||
| Aesquire |
Advantages of a stock M2 breadbox? 1 Quiet 2 for me, better knee clearance ( fit is individual YMMV ) "Modding" the airbox in a couple of ways improves breathing to WAY more than enough for a stock motor. ( Venturi ring/remove filter housing in breadbox ) Or ( remove filter & housing/ use Helmholtz tube & conical filter ) Downside? Increased intake & valve train noise. The Race Kit filter ( carbon oval ) and Forcewinder ( bent tube ) filter both are louder & flow better than stock. Fit depends, for me the Race filter hits my knee under hard braking, not, for me, an issue with breadbox. I Changed for esthetic reasons, liking the looks of the Carbon Hamcan best. IMO. | ||
| Warlizard |
I never questioned the effectiveness of the airbox. I also agree that a modified airbox will flow almost as well as any aftermarket mod. I said that it is ugly and it is. Especially on the M2's. As good as Igner's bike looks now, it w/ look a helluva lot better w/ a black forcewinder IMO. | ||
| Ducxl |
As good as Igner's bike looks now, it w/ look a helluva lot better w/ a black forcewinder IMO. I don't think so.But as you feel the stock breadbox is ugly i've come to realize opinions vary on any subject.So Igneroid has plenty of advice either way. | ||
| Beatx1 |
Does Airtech make a aircleaner especially for the X1? Would heat from the exhaust warp the plastic? The coating on my frame where the exhaust goes next to it is heat cracked. Thanks for the info! | ||
| Warlizard |
Duc, as they say " Let's agree to disagree". Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and we are all entitled to an opinion. Igner, I forgot to mention that Maliair makes a nice intake, it's small and round and has an "old school" look to it. You can add a color insert to match your bike. It's at steelthundercc.com. You have many more options w/ a carb than I did w/ FI. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Steve (Beatx1), I believe all of Airtech's things are fiberglass but I'm not sure. Check them out at "www.airtech-streamlining.com/" Good stuff that many racers use. Bob | ||
| Torquemonster |
Inger, the Maliaire that Warliz spoke of has an evil twin that is a lil pricier-Heres a link to the evil twin (K&N): http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/5642.html heres a link to the maliaire: http://www.steelthundercc.com/buell_parts.html I have no idea what the diff is besides $20. Maybe Al can shed some light on it. By the way.....nice bike! | ||
| 2kx1 |
Where did the big honkin aluminum thing from Germany go? I t was here last week, anyone know what I'm talkin about? | ||
| Kiwi |
Well I love the stock air box its a Buell trade mark,not only does it work better than after market products but it will also support two beers. | ||
| Dave_02_1200 |
There are several good choices for different reasons. Each has its merits. I just went in a different direction with a simple 6" round universal K&N filter that fits directly onto the 65mm flange on my Mikuni HSR 42. It is as basic as can be and functional. K&N PN RA-0670. | ||
| Dj_engine |
I like my airtech airbox. It compliments the tube frame design. My knee still hits it though. I've got a stock airbox I'm going to cut down and use the back halves to keep my knees from hitting the frame and enabling my right knee to clear the airtech box. | ||
| Devdawg |
2kx1, This the airbox you're talking about??   Igneroid, The above is a good choice...huge 3" K&N filter...will fit a 3" velocity stack as well and has plenty of leg room. I took the one in the pic off my '99 M2 and may consider parting with it. | ||
| Warlizard |
Igner, I just realized you r considering a hypercharger? That is the worst flowing intake on the market. Even if someone gave me one,I wouldn't use it. | ||
| Igneroid |
Igner, I just realized you r considering a hypercharger? That is the worst flowing intake on the market. Even if someone gave me one,I wouldn't use it. Hahahahahaha. Naw, I've changed my mind about that one from Guell's unfavorable review allthough the one I had considered was much larger than the one he has. Anyhow, Im still lookin. IM leaning toward one of the round ones or a bent one like yours... Thanks all for the very interesting info/post. Later P}ercy | ||
| 2kx1 |
Devdawg, No that isn't the one, It is a big fat dual-snorkel lookin thing,I must have it. |
