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Warlizard
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found an interesting product at Steel Thunder. "Velva-Ride" stabilizers. Supposed to cut down transmitted engine vibration by 50%? Any improvement in vibration would greatly benefit the bikes various parts and fasteners. Has anyone used these? Do they work?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those stabilizers don't make sense. There isn't a rocking couple vibration for these links to help cancel out and the tie-bars on Buells hold the engine in an axial vertical plane so the engine can vibrate. The Uni-planer mounting system relies on the links to hold the engine/swingarm unit in that plane. If the engine is not held exactly in this plane, the rear wheel won't be aligned with the front wheel properly.

I bet these links wouldn't help cancel vibration at all, and it would most certainly make the handling less precise.

Don't bother.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Velva Ride Vibration Control System by V-Thunder.
Reduces transmitted engine vibration by up to 50% and provides the comfort needed for all-day rides.
Velva Ride Engine Stabilizers
Stainless steel body contains a stainless steel plunger encased in specially-formulated urethane that significantly out performs stock stabilizers.When installed on rubber mount models, the engine is completely isolated from the frame by eliminating all metal-to-metal contact. Complete with rod ends and available with a plain finish or polished bodies and rod ends. For all rubber-mounted 5-speed models 1980 to present, and all Buell models 1991 to present. Replaces OEM 16219-79A."





You'll need a gallon of the right snake oil for it to work.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JUNK.

Someone here has already tried it and they o not work worth a poo on a Buell...
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Sleez
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

all reports i have heard about are negative on buells. i have no direct knowledge, but am not willing to try them based on the shared knowledge passed on previously.
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dan, I have a tendency to agree with you, but when I added a second stabilized brace to my M2 I noticed a lot more high frequency buzz or vibration reaching the bars and me. Just maybe, if the urethane in these is strong enough, it will hold the engine in the proper plane for alignment, AND cancel out those high pitch vibrations I felt. Any price on these for someone to try them. I'm curious to see how they are. Lets get some more input. Bob

Spidy, who has tried them "here"

(Message edited by Bob_thompson on August 15, 2007)
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

don't remember who I just remember the negative post about them.

PLUS
The motor is designed as a stressed member of the frame. It's only movement should be front to back, not side to side. These "stabalizers" look as though they would allow too much lateral movement and because the swing arm is attached to the case, to flex in all the wrong ways.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Dan, I have a tendency to agree with you, but when I added a second stabilized brace to my M2 I noticed a lot more high frequency buzz or vibration reaching the bars and me."

Bob... I never felt the increase in vibration you speak of when I installed the tie-bar at the motormount. My bars are still glass smooth at speed on the highway. There really shouldn't be any vibration that could be induced by a tie-bar at the front mount because the engine only vibrates one plane (but this is an imperfect world!).

Are you sure the tie-bar was adjusted to the correct length before you temporarily installed it? If 4th tie-bar is binding or not in the same plane as the other three, I could see where it could translate a vertical planar vibration into a lateral one.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was me on my S-2,made the vibes worse where the Buell lives but seemed to smooth out idle.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim... was that the stabilized link or the front isolator from V-Thunder?

I remember some bad things reported about the V-Thunder urethane front isolator.
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Sleez
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

some of the previous discussions;

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/265543.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/406 2/106917.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/258043.html
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Jayvee
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well all that discussion is pretty convincing. I guess I'm convinced that they figured since it replaced a particular HD part number, it would work everywhere that part number appears. Doesn't mean they tried it themselves...
I was sure thinking of this one for the 4th tie bar, but I guess I saved some money and trouble by reading this forum (again.)
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