| Author | Message | ||
     Chevyguy80 |
Okay I will start off appologizing for my spelling I know its bad I have a 2000 X-1 with about 12000m on it. My trans is getting stuck in 3&4 gear, had to hit the shifter like I was kickstarting a dirt bike today just to get it home. New to the Buell world only had the bike since feb and it has been in the shop for most of that time. Any advice would be a great help for so far have a very nasty taste in my mouth with this bike. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Make sure your linkage is lubed up before you freak out. The pivot on the footpeg will bind up on you if it's not lubed and clean. My bike's shifter started to bind up at about the same milage as yours due to the frame paint behind the footpeg being chewed up. I suggest that you remove the footpeg and check things out. You should scrape away the paint back there if it looks like it's interfering with the linkage. | ||
| Chevyguy80 |
There is no binding in the linkage took all that apart all ready. The binding is coming from the inside of the tranny | ||
| Smoke |
spring clip for shifting star behind clutch basket? | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Ouch! Yeah, time to panic. Sounds like another spring clip failure. | ||
| Djkaplan |
Don't panic. Buy a shop manual, get your tools out. The trans in a tube frame Buell can be removed and in your hands in less than 30 minutes. You probably won't have to go that far - Smoke has a good diagnosis (but it could be something else). If he's correct, a spring clip that costs less than a dollar has failed. | ||
| Henrik |
Could be the pins in the shift drum - the ones the detent plate (shift star) rests on - walking out skewing the detent plate. For sure; get a service manual, tools and dig in. If you have a way of taking/posting pictures here we may be able to help diagnose if there is nothing in there that jumps out at you. Henrik | ||
| Denfromphilly |
Could be the pins in the shift drum, the related spring clip failure, or the clutch spring plate failure causing drag, too much oil, clutch adjustment. None are very hard to fix, a bunch of bolts a couple big sockets and special tools I can lend you. Good Luck! | ||
| Chevyguy80 |
okay sounds like a few have had this happen before. Ill pull apart and take a look have a way to post pics just have to figure out how to resize the pics to load to site. Now just have to get the service manual. anything else I should be prepared for with this bike already on the second motor in 5000m and now this | ||
| Sanchez |
A couple of notes: - The whole clutch basket comes off as a unit. You don't have to remove the spring plates, so you don't need the special compressor tool. - You'll need something to jam between the sprocket and clutch teeth to keep them from rotating when you remove the sprocket and clutch bolts. I made one out of a 1/8" x 2" piece of aluminum that I bought at Lowes and cut down to 4" long.  I bent one while torquing the bolts back down, so buy a long enough piece that you can cut it into multiple 4" sections. The detent plate is the star-shaped piece you see in the middle of this photo:  The $.50 clip holding it in place broke on my bike. If that isn't the problem on yours and you have to remove the transmission, I think you just have to remove the 5 bolts you see on it in that picture and take off the front belt sprocket on the other side of the bike. Now is also a good time to replace your starter gasket if you haven't already done so. It's doomed to fail, and it will sling oil all over the top of the primary when it goes. (Message edited by sanchez on July 18, 2006) | ||
| Djkaplan |
Great write-up and pics - you don't have to remove the front pulley to get the trans out, though. "Now is also a good time to replace your starter gasket if you haven't already done so. It's doomed to fail, and it will sling oil all over the top of the primary when it goes." I replaced my old starter gasket (that never leaked) with a new one, and now I have a leak there... damnit! Moral of this story: I don't know.... | ||
| Bluzm2 |
To remove the tranny, just remove the 5 bolt. It slides right out. No need to remove anythig fromthe other side. When you have it out, smear a bit of grease (I use high pressure synth) in the 5th gear assembly that is left at the back of the tranny cavity. This bearing is famous for oil starvation. Like this: Brad  | ||
| Chevyguy80 |
thanks for all the advice went in took a look at it and everything looked good but still wont shift so it going into the shop again thank you all | ||
| Djkaplan |
"...went in took a look at it and everything looked good..." You took the primary cover, clutch and rotor off? Or did you just stomp on the lever again? Hmmm.... | ||
| Chevyguy80 |
pulled the clutch assembly out didnt see anything that looked like it was broke or messed up so I put it back together and shifted through the gears and it still got stuck in third couldnt go any farther up with it and took about twenty mins of rocking back and forth to get back to neutral so to save agravation its going to the shop needs a valve adjustment to i think | ||
| Henrik |
You didn't pull the tranny? Could be a bent shift fork? Henrik | ||
| Firemanjim |
And there is no "valve adjustment" on your Buell unless someone changed over to solid lifters as you have non adjustable hydraulic lifters.Is it getting noisy?? | ||
| Pressureangle |
Sounds like the very common 'burrs on the drum hanging the forks' syndrome. Did the shifts feel like you were pulling the lever through peanut butter before it got stuck? | ||
| Bluelightning |
Sounds like the very common 'burrs on the drum hanging the forks' syndrome. Did the shifts feel like you were pulling the lever through peanut butter before it got stuck? I see where you are going... And that is another problem. Have your checked your clutch itself? There is a spring plate in the middle of the clutch pack that is notorious for failing. I'm not talking about the spring at the end of the basket that you see, but the one that is in the middle. The fix for that is to ditch the spring and replace it with 2 steels and 1 friction plate (otherwise known as an "extra plate clutch kit"). Then all you need to do is replace the shift dog and file down the burr on the drum. Check out this thread, located in this section: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/47623/203866.html?1148649155 | ||
| Easy_rider |
It's a shame that none of this helped Chevyguy, but I'm definitely clipping this and saving to my Buell folder! It's given my some confidence to dive in, as well. I occasionally have to work mine to downshift, and then it will only go down one gear at a time. I haven't tied it down to a particular set of circumstances yet, just catches me by surprise every once in a while. Any thoughts of where I need to look first? Failing clip? | ||
| Mmmi_grad |
There is no shame, only determination and persistance. I bought a 1957 panhead at age 17 needed a top end. I took the top end and cleaned evevy thing I could put it all back together and the bike would burn rubber for awhile. But really the top end needed rebuilt. I can understand Chevys position, when your ass and your bike is on the line you want it right, but getting it right doesnt automatically happen at a dealer either. I dont know why im so down on dealers and the factory lately , must be for some reason and old scars. | ||
| Chevyguy80 |
it shifted fine except it was hard to hit second get every once in a while under wot yes she is getting a little noisy told these are noisy motors but i figured id have my guy check it out and see what she needed and it will be a cold day in hell before i take it back to a dealership to get worked on they have already lead to a motor replacement once when they didnt tighten the two little screws in the stock air box i deal with a hole in the wall shop that treats me right they have worked on my other bike several times and never had a complant with that and the only reason it is going in there is i work about sixty hours a week and go to school full time about another forty hours a week i am a wrench turner at heart but just dont have the time if the problem just jumped out at me i would of done it myself but it didnt everything look good to me by the way dose any one have a spare shifter arm when i pulled it off seen that someone had jb welded it together at one time or another | ||
| Littlebuggles |
If you're talking about the aluminum boom-a-rang thingy, I have one in my recycle bin I think, pm me and I'll get it in the mail for you. Should only take a day or two to get to you from Salt Lake. It has been re-threaded (at the shift peg) though, I'll see what I can find for you... -Mike |
