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Sanchez
Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it just me, or are the pegs on my M2 a good deal lower than those on an XB Lightning? I ran around in the mountains today scraping pegs while hanging off the bike by my calf, but I completely failed to deflower my knee sliders. The bike won't lean over any further without rearsets, and my legs aren't going to get any longer, so I feel kind of stuck.
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Smoke
Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 06:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they are lower from what i can remember. save the kneedragging for the track.
ride safe,
tim
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are lower than an X1 too.
I dragged my friend's M2 pegs very easily.

I have never scraped my own X1 pegs.
(toes of boots, yes)
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Davefl
Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you want to drag knees on a M2 you will have to invest in some rearsets.. I have Banke rear sets on my M2 but they may not be available new anymore(Al at A.S.B. may have a set) Crossroads may still sell them.. Sato Racing have some that look like jewelry.



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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Matt

I used to think my M2 had great peg clearance until I became a better rider and realized how limited it really was. You obviously have reached that point also.

The best compromise I found for increased peg clearance and legroom has been the simple peg risers available from many sources. I got mine from the E-bay billet guy guy (good and inexpensive, comparitively), but you can get them from Banke and European souces also. Al stocks them, too.

They raise and move back the pegs only moderately, but it's enough so I can at least keep the toe of my boot on the peg without it being scrapped off by the asphalt. I can still drag the pegs but only very infrequently (during MBIII, I only dragged a peg once). My boots still have clearance issues if I don't ride on my toes through the corners, though.

Make sure whatever you do to the seating position, it works with that seat you have. With lower bars and peg risers, that early model seat will punish your man-taint... please don't post anything that makes me mention that again.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another thing... the peg risers place the pegs in the same relative location as an X1's.
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Sanchez
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> I got mine from the E-bay billet guy

How much were they? I see American Sport Bike has them, but they're $160.

I definitely need some relief. I took my bike out to the Dragon yesterday and scraped repeatedly despite setting a slow pace for my uncle on his Road King.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Matt

If I remember correctly, didn't your bike have the updated shifter from a 2001-2 model? The peg risers only work with the old style 'boomerang' shifter.
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Benm2
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just another note about M2 rearsets. I made mine, they sit at about the same height but a little further back (maybe 1/2") than the American Sport Bike sets. The issue that I had AFTER rearset installation was no longer that the pegs dragged, but that the bodywork became a real issue.

On the later M2's, the seat is much wider (nice & comfy too) and the bodywork width matches. When on the track, I have the balls of my feet on the pegs most of the time, and my heels were always banging into the bodywork. I ended up riding kind of duck-footed, to the point where I was starting to drag the outsides of my boots.

I solved the problem by cutting the bodywork way down, the strip on my M2 is now no more than 2" wide all the way from tank to tail. I think it looks more agressive, but the improvement in "handling" was the best. Now I can keep my heels tucked in, and the transfer from right-to-left hanging off is much easier. The current no-toe-drag configuration has fixed pegs, with the pivot points of the controls moved in towards the center of the bike about 1" per side. It is now narrow enough that I'm back to being the current limit to corner speed.

If you're going to get real agressive with an M2, rearsets may not be enough. I think that Blake has an older M2, the seat is much narrower, he can throw his two cents in from his track experiences too. It looks like the American Sport Bike sets are wider, so it may be less of an issue. I cut off the passenger peg mounts, and initially reused the stock pegs mounted 3/8" further out (rearsets were fabbed from 3/8" aluminum).
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Sanchez
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> didn't your bike have the updated shifter from a 2001-2 model?

Yeah, my bike's an 02.

> I have Banke rear sets on my M2

Now that's just what I'm looking for. American Sport Bike has he kit for $650.

> the bodywork became a real issue.

That, at least, shouldn't be much of an issue for me.



The Chicken Nugget has an S1 tank and tail.
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Davefl
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Banke sets will let you put your knee down if you can find a set.. Banke has stopped making them.



I see that you will be at Barber.. I will be there as well.
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Benm2
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice work on the S1 tail fit! I thought about doing that, but after hunting around ebay for the parts I spent the money on track tires instead. Modifying the stock bodywork with a dremel tool was MUCH cheaper. For some reason S1 parts seem popular...


knee


Still no knee down for me, just touched it once or twice. This is a picture pre-peg-modifications, you can see the obvious duck-footed heel banging on the outside foot, and the inside foot is well off the inside peg.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Sanchez, theres a set of those relocators in the classifieds right now...
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Sanchez
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's what I ended up doing. Tim aka Smoke was at Barber yesterday and he had a spare set of S3 peg mounts. Turning them upside down gives you an extra inch or so of clearance.









WARNING: The hole through which the pivot pin goes is offset toward the top of the mount. When you turn it upside down, the spring won't fit back on, and the pegs don't have clearance to fold all the way up. I didn't think it would be a big deal, but apparently I was pushing my pegs up much further than I thought. I leaned over hard going into turn 5, caught a peg, and low sided when my back wheel jumped off the ground.

After I got the bike pieced back together, I filed the mounts down a little to allow the pegs full movement and went back out. The extra clearance really makes a difference and I was finally able to get a knee down (this time without low siding. : ))
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