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Barthautala
Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 98 S1Ws front rotor rattles like a leaf in a wind storm.

I know its a floater but jeez, at a stoplight it sure is annoying.

Is something wront or do I have to live with it.
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Sleez
Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

typical, get the new style with more buttons, i think you can still get one from al at American Sport Bike for around 120.00!
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The price went up to $140. Still a good deal, though.
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Bartimus
Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yea, the 6 button discs rattled like crazy.
You can keep an eye on eBay for an 8 button one, you can usually get them for under $100.
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still running my OEM rotor on my 97S3T ...

COOLING WISE it is a BETTER ROTOR !!!

All you have to know is how to "FIX" !!!
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Tornado
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 02:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the "fix"? My dealer said it was a new rotor!
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Xldevil
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All you have to know is how to "FIX" !!!
So mister mystery man,won't you tell us how,please?
I'm so excited.

Ralph
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Buellistic
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 06:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gentlemen:

The ones that get loose and rattle are the
ones withe the -96 part number ...

ie: ones like on the 97/98 Models ...

TO STOP RATTLE:
Place one WASHER 6201Y(BUELLschitte PART NUMBER BA148.9SS) on DRIVE PIN,brake PN45164-96Y push through its hole on
ROTOR/CARRIER ... Then place WASHER or WASHERS 6201Y between SPRING WASHER 6553Y and WASHER 6543Y untill it does not rattle anymore ...

Did this to my 97S3T and have 89K plus miles and NO RATTLE !!!

In BUELLing
LaFayette
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Xldevil
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dear Sir LaFayette.
I really have the concern to say:
Thank You!

Ralph
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Court
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Stacking Diagram
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Tornado
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dang, You guys are gooooood!
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Buellistic
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Per Courts picture ROTOR TO CARRIER FASTENER ...

3 is WASHER 6201Y !!!

ONE WASHER 6201Y between 5 and 6 ...

ONE or MORE 6201Y between 2 and 4 until
ROTOR/CARRIER is "TIGHT" ...

In BUELLing
LaFayette

(Message edited by buellistic on May 06, 2006)
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S1eric
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They sure are proud of those washers,
$3.08 each. WOW ! ! !


S1Eric
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Court
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>They sure are proud of those washers

They are excellent washers.

Ordinarily they'd be priced quite a bit lower but experience shows that riders are much more confident in their brakes when they have paid a premium price for washers.

Sure....we sold them at a major loss of r while but folks kept reporting that they felt uneasy using "cheap" washers.

At $3.08 per washer you know you have the cat's meow of braking systems!

Buy the washer already.....it's less than a Big Mac.

: )
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Sleez
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mine had the "fix", was fine for awhile then started the death rattle again, more rotational slop than anything, went to an EBC, no problems, still need to update "Wedgie".
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S1eric
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yea i know it`s a specialty washer, but.
$19.77 tax included for 6 washers.

Its cutting into my Big Mac fund.

Weight (pun intended) I think i`m on to something here.
If i spend the money on the washers and not the Big Macs, My braking system might not have to work so hard.

Got it.

Thanks for the tip Court.

S1eric
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sleez:

YOU DID NOT "FIX" ENOUGH !!!
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Court
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is what the "fix" was. . time and more info has provided better solutions.


Drive Pin Recall


Think of the satisfaction. . . as you approach your t-shot on the #1 tee and quip to the rest of your foursome...."I'm heavily invested in Buell rotor washers".

You'll be seen as keen and a shrewd investor. Helmets and brakes warrant investment.

: )

Now....as we say in the world of brake research . . . STOP IT!

P.S. - the "Drive Pin Recall" was a very special and interesting one. . . remind me to tell you sometime. . . : )
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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 07:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court:

That was a "RECALL KIT"(as you well know) to get ride of the surclip problem because H-D Technicians did not know how to install them correctly or for that matter use the WASHers to correct rattle problem !!!

This "KIT" will not correctly FIX the rattle problem unless you install correctly more WASHers PN 6201Y(BUELLschitte Part Number BA148.9SS) ...

YOU SHIM UNTILL THE ROTOR DOES NOT FLOAT
ANYMORE !!!

Next year at "DAYTONA 2007" you can check my OEM ROTOR shiming ...
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lafayette:

Right you are. The first Buell drive pin hardware was the best. The weak link was ham fisted installations.

As you know the clips have zero tolerance for being "warped" during install.
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Sleez
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

buellistic,

i believe it was the glendale group that did all my recall work, replaced my cracked swingarm, new shock etc., that did my rotor, i was still a fair newb at that time, so didn't attempt much work myself yet, until the rear head gasket blew, now i'm a regular.
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Iamike
Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I upgraded my '99 to the new style of rotor I had a heck of a time getting the old flat-head bolts out. That teenie allen wrench + the soft bolt + red locktite = mucho frustration. I ended up drilling a 1/4" hole then driving a torx bit into the hole. Those bolts came right out.
Make sure you order the right button-head bolts with the new rotor. My shop ordered the old flat-head ones and I didn't realize I had the wrong ones until I started putting it back together. The button-head bolts are about $5.50 ea.
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