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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keeps the flywheels from having to slosh through that oil.
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

got to say it..S2/S2T THUNDERBOLT...THANK YOU, ERIK BUELL!!

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Court
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve:

I couldn't agree more. . my desk is a litter field of S-2 stuff. Every time, after more than 10 years, I look at an S-2, I am more in love. Still dig the picture of the white S-2 in the days just prior to the corporate cops assuming handcuffing the media folks.

You guys remember all the cool S-2 shirts? Likely the BEST Buell literature EVER done (with all due respect to Dave Gess and the Gray and Red RS/RSS pics and the famous RW750 pic) and some of the coolest t-shirts. I'm not sure that Mike Hilman moved the Buell ball far down the field, but damn we looked good!

Desk
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Firemanjim
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice patch!!
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Court
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I totally dig the patch. . . haven't decided quite what to put it on and am thinking it may get framed with some of my FMJH racing pics!
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court:
How many miles on the LOA bike?
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Xldevil
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 05:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Court.
I'm wondering why they drilled the center bolt through and why is the oil drain hole plugged?
Don't leave me in confusion!
Regards,Ralph
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Court
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey. . . no problemo.

The motor was updated to the 1998 and later style oiling by plugging the cam box drain hole and using a new oil pump (which will get the 2006 drive gear) with an inlet in the cam box. This puts less drag on the fly wheel and allows the system to scavenge better. A relatively cheap upgrade to do while the motor is in this state.

Does that answer your question?

This has turned out to be one darn fun project. I did an S-1 once in which we broke the bike, straight from the crate into EVERY piece. Every single piece of the engine, frame and so forth was "done"....brake calipers and motor mounts polished and so forth.

I've asked Aaron to leave no stone unturned. This bike has been good to me, I owe it a good going over...and, like the 1952 sitting here next to my desk, I have no intention of not having it for years to enjoy.
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

court,
why don't you start a new post...your project...begining to end..i'm aLready learning things!!

JT
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1313
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,

Imagine my surprise seeing your posts yesterday. Earlier in the day I unearthed some pictures of your Lap Of America bike taken at Road America during a Homecoming from a few moons ago. Funny thing that you are not parked with the rest of the Buell owners, but I guess it would get noticed a little bit better parked around Cagiva's, Ducati's and Bimota's.

Enough jabberjawin', here's the (scanned) pics:
Court's Lap Of America S2
Court's Lap Of America S2 2

1313
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Timbo
Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow Court!

The motor is lookin' NICE!!!

Please do keep us updated.

Timbo
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1313
Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,

Imagine my surprise seeing your posts yesterday. Earlier in the day I unearthed some pictures of your Lap Of America bike taken at Road America during a Homecoming from a few moons ago. Funny thing that you are not parked with the rest of the Buell owners, but I guess it would get noticed a little bit better parked around Cagiva's, Ducati's and Bimota's.

Hmmm...Playing around with the settings on the scanner netted some better quality scans (which also reveal how low quality my original pictures are).

Enough jabberjawin', here's the (scanned) pics:
Court's Lap Of America S2 better scan
Court's Lap Of America S2 2 better scan

1313

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Court
Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tony:

If you can get one of the moderators to move this to the "Home Court" area under a new thread, I'd be willing to start piecing together the complete history of the bike, the Lap of America, what happened (it all started, Brankin would recall, as an internet pissin' match), how it came off, some of the resulting interesting times (like the day I was "in custody" when I was supposed to be doing the parade lap at Road America and arrived late, thus being parked with the Ducatis) and so on.

Denise, Erik and I are the sole survivors of those days and they were most interesting.

I still have all the e-mails, threads and the daily stories I wrote as I wandered about the US. I have the tape of the radio show Erik and I appeared on, but never got the "Buell...on the road" radio call in spots I did on Monday, Wednesday and Friday's from interesting places around the country.

I may have the time over the winter while I am writing on another Buell project.

Just a thought. The S-2 is going to be something that even Brankin (1313) will be proud of.

Court
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Court
Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Someone had asked for a bit more info, and I've received two e-mails about the center boring.

The reason behind drilling out the center bolt is the boring process cuts the bolt, as well as a good number of the threads in the pushrod
side case half. . . so the bolt, now heavily grooved in the sides, can't really be screwed into the case anymore.

The procedure, ergo, is, before case boring, to drill it all the way through and spot face it where it comes out. This makes a neat, restful place for the washer to sit.

The in goes a loooooooong bolt through, with washers on each end, and a nylock nut and it's time to bore the cases. This works quite wonderfully since the bolt never needs, like say a 45 RPM record, to turn.

Egads. . . did I say "bore the cases? . . . . Brankin, I've become a to MORE POWER!

Centerbolting
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you can get one of the moderators to move this to the "Home Court"

WORKING ON IT..COURT
ANYTHING TO TELL THE S2 STORY.
I JUST LOVE THESE FREAKING BIKES!!

JT
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1313
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to take away from Court's quest for more power - which I think is GREAT, btw - in my weekend scavenging adventure I came across some older S2 photos that I've been threatening/promising to post once I got a scanner.

First off is the Yellow S2 prototype that was on the cover of the October 1993 issue of Cycle World. The real interesting thing about the pictures is that the current factory (2815 Buell Dr.), which can be seen in the background, is in the early stages of construction.
Yellow S2 prototype with 2815 Buell Drive in the background
C'mon, no snide remarks with this following shot. It is likely the only time you will ever see me in jeans that aren't black and wearing sneakers. Again 2815 Buell Drive is in the background being built. And no, my legs haven't gotten any longer that is still pretty much how I fit on an S2 with relatively fresh rear rubber.
Yellow S2 prototype with 2815 Buell Drive in the background 2
Some closer shots of the S2. As you can tell there are some differences between this bike and a production S2.
Yellow S2 prototype
Yellow S2 prototype 2

Now for an S2 of a different color, literally. This is THE only S2 that was built on the line that was not built in a color that was in the brochure. This 1995 S2 was built for Hal's to go racing with. The paint was straight black (no pearl blue overcoat that the Black Saphire bodywork received), and the frame and swingarm were also black. I believe this is the same bike that Hal's 'updated' and continued racing as an S1. I've seen a couple of S2's converted to S1's for racing - the big clue is the S2 oil tank, which necessitated cutting some of the S1 tail section away to fit. Anyways, here is the all black wonder on the line.
THE all black 1995 S2
THE all black 1995 S2 2
THE all black 1995 S2 3
THE all black 1995 S2 4

1313
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Prior
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brankin,
Very cool shots. Can't wait to have a bit of an alumni gathering in NC so I can see the rest of the shots. I have a copy of that Cycle World, that exact bike is the first Buell I'd ever seen in person. Way too cool. Keep them coming!
Alex
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, what sidestand is on the bike?
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That black bike is beautiful! Hmmm maybe a set of black bodywork in addtion to the Parkway Blue would be in order.

Henrik
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Firemanjim
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice catch,Mike.What is that stand? looks like the rear egg crates are black?or just the dark pic?
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1313
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The stand, I believe, is straight off an RS/RSS. Both the bikes in the Cycle World article have that sidestand. You wouldn't believe how difficult it is to find a shot of an RS or RSS from the left side with the sidestand down (on the internet that is - I got quite a bunch from the old factory, though).
RSS Sidestand
In my pics I can't make out the 'egg crates' in the rear vents, but referring to the issue of Cycle World they are black.

1313

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1313
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since I only saved some of the cooler pictures out and halfway organized the rest when I separated the Buell pictures from the other pictures I only have the following to offer. They're pictures of S2 #1313 showing it's humble beginnings in Caribbean Candy Blue in its' crate bottom.
humble beginnings
humble beginnings 2
humble beginnings 3
humble beginnings 4
I must say the pictures look better than the scanned images, and the bike looks nothing like that anymore...

1313
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks 1313,
That's what I thought it was based on an earlier discussion earlier this year. Earlier this summer I checked at a local dealership who called Buell and eventually never got a clear reply back about the availability of the RS/RSS sidestands. Bummer. And I don't like the idea of bending the long-leg sidestand.

("hmmm, if this bike stood more upright on the sidestand I wouldn't have to neal down so far to put the disk lock back in it's little bag hanging on the frame here...." )
(I need more pics of the S2 so I can post more in this thread without repeating myself. Was going to take one last week of the bike in the snow "white on white" but the snow melted before I could unbury the bike from the garage, oh well. )
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it the sideplate and the sidestand that you have to purchase? surely just the sidestand doesn't do it all by itself?

I sure want to change out mine.....to a more upright position. Keep the S2 thread alive..rex
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rex,
My understanding is that all you need is the sidestand all by itself and use your current S2 sideplate. I could be wrong though, and if so I'm certain to be corrected.
Basically the local dealership said the sidestands for the RS/RSS are no longer available, which may or may not be an accurate answer.

If this is the case though, maybe someone could set up a shortrun of sidestands if the price is reasonable. Al? Daves? either of you up for the challenge? If it costs under $20 I'm in, over $50 I'm out, between that I'll think about it (and maybe get the torch and big hammer out to bend my own).
(I ran out of S2 pics, sorry)
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd be interested in two of them!
I have a spare that I'm going to apply the "Wilson bend" on for S2 number 2...

It sure makes a difference.
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Samc
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1313, it looks in that straight-on shot like your fairing is a little bit cocked, down on the left (in the photo). Nice to see mine's not unique in that; it's apparently standard equipment.
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1313
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry to burst everyones bubble, but the yellow S2 has non-production sideplates on it and the left plate has a different area for the sidestand to mount in. It's easier to see in the print pics and the Cycle World article. So just slapping a RS/RSS sidestand on your S2 would probably not work out all that well. I would suspect that it would lean even more than a stock S2 with the shorter stand.
RS vs. S2

Samc,
Ah, the days before 100% symmetric, CNC tooled bodywork... You know, I've never noticed it before, but that could explain why my front brake lever has always hit the front fairing no matter how the right bar is oriented. I'd chalk it up to character, myself.

Court,
Now that you will have 'more air coming in' what's in the plans to 'get more air coming out'? My S2's T'Stormed motor loves the Buell Race Exhaust System, but I'd suspect that it might not be up to snuff for the motor you've got going together. I, for one - and I'm sure I'm not alone, would love to know every little detail about the buildup.

Keep us informed,
1313
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Court
Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most excellent.....PHASE 1 of the S-2 Lap of American Buell Restoration is COMPLETE!

Yes, I got carried away. But....hey, isn't that what S-2's are all about?

I'm gettin' a hankerin' that this bike is going to be MUCH more fun in it's 2nd life.
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Dave
Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heyyyyyy that's JOsh's RS and my S2. Two IL guys in MO for a ride on those "curves" and "hills". : ) I thought hills only meant an overpass.

The S2 is (of course) assuming it's natural position.

DAve
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