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Tramp
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 05:51 pm: | 
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and, collective, being this site is privately owned and i don't wanna be a bad guest, please, don't ever think twice about 'sprucing up' or deleting any of my stuff, just go for it and fix it as you see fit.
and thanks for the nice work |
Bomber
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 02:00 pm: |
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Jim_SB -- my HD-labeled electric jacket (note, not straight) came with instructions stating that, on a sporty, of you kept the Rs above 2500, you would be charging the batt with the jacket on
bit of a pain on surface streets in the hood,, but not problem at all out in the toolies -- I've prolly got about 200 mikes with the jacket on, followed the guidelines (mostly), and havn't had any battery problems at all
not saying more juice wouldn't be nice, mind you, in keeping with the touchy happy feely tenor of this thread -- just nother data point is all |
Whodom
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 02:04 pm: |
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Did anyone ever figure out if the stator & voltage regulator from an 06 XB is a bolt-on swap for an S3? This would be a ready-to-go easily obtainable upgrade if it will.
BTW- We are Hugh- resistance is futile....
(Message edited by whodom on August 19, 2005) |
Henrik
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 02:28 pm: |
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We are Hugh- resistance is futile....
Now, if we were talking 7-of-9 I wouldn't *want* to resist one bit 
Henrik |
Whodom
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 02:40 pm: |
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Mmmm, 7-of-9. Whatever happened to Jerri Ryan? And now T'Pau is gone as well....  |
Tramp
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 05:51 pm: |
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bombs-
ebay that electric jacket. the EMFs are not healthy. there's also no reason for it, there are such amazing materials out there, these days, for warmth.
look into a nice 2-part polarfleece inner/ nylon outer ski jacket. |
Old_mil
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 08:12 pm: |
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Hey Jim in SB,
I went ahead and ordered an FL stator and voltage regulator from J&P cycles. Lets see if it's going to work or not. The good news is that it looks like the plug for the stator in the picture is pretty short so it may not come to splicing and trying to deal with leaks. We shall see.
Based on the post you directed me to, a 32 amp FL stator should work...that makes it an evolution stator, since modern Twin Cam FL stators appear to be higher amperage (38? 40? 45?). The Twin Cam Dynas do have a 32 amp stator, but since the post mentioned an FL stator (a Dyna is an FX) I went with the evo stator. |
Henrik
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 08:29 pm: |
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ebay that electric jacket ...
You're kidding, right? (I know you're not ). My heated grips ( inexpensive $27 wrap type) is the best $$ I've spent on aftermarket stuff for any of my bikes. My heated vest is not far behind.
Henrik |
Tramp
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 08:48 pm: |
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why an electric vest when there are so many nice warm winter clothes available?
they still work when you have electrical problems, and they won't cause electrical shorts...
electrical shorts, of course, represent the extreme end of heated undergarments... |
Henrik
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 08:53 pm: |
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electrical shorts, of course ...
What do you care - you supposedly don't wear any .... 
Henrik |
Tramp
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 09:25 pm: |
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dang tootin'! |
Easy_rider
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 11:03 pm: |
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Henrik,
I've got the grip elements in my "shopping cart" but saw a review of a similar item that noted that it only worked well when both low and high were wired together. Any comments? |
Easy_rider
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 11:10 pm: |
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Tramp,
I don't think the warm winter clothes fit as conveniently under the riding jacket, and don't stop the wind as well as a riding jacket. Or protect as well if you happen to find a patch of ice! |
Henrik
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 11:52 pm: |
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Easy; my heaters are older, but I've had no trouble with the high/low situation. I've seen a newer, revised version that doesn't require a resistor but takes care of high/low in the windings?
There has been mention of the left grip taking longer to heat up, and some claim the left grip doesn't get as hot, but that hasn't been my experience.
In short I can recommend them. I think of heated grips as a safety feature in addition to the comfort. I bought my first set years ago after a long night trip home from the Catskills in freezing temps. Even wearing all my clothes I froze to the point of not being able to move my hands. Rode 150 miles like that - managed to keep a fraction of heat in my hands by riding with one hand on the rear cylinder head, switching hands L/R. Unsafe and pretty stupid in hindsight. So there ...
Henrik |
Jim_sb
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 11:56 pm: |
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Old_mil, the post was from Gordon Buhle, who had done it. I've never understood the HD alphabet, didn't mean to steer you wrong.
If the Buell/Sportster stators are 22 amp and the one you're trying is 32 amps it would be a whopping (near) 50% increase in output, correct?
Please keep up posted.
Regards,
Jim in Santa Barbara |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 10:09 am: |
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Let us know if the combo works. The fact that the stator and voltage regulator are sold as a pair suggests they will. It's a simple, elegant design.
Tramp, EMF is pretty much a non health issue for DC or low frequencey AC, which is what I expect the heated gear uses.
Even if it were high frequency, even according to the breathless reactionary junk science media scare culture... The high frequency "health risks", if they exist at all, are probably about 6 decimal places lower then the risk you will take during the next mile on your motorcycle. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 10:12 am: |
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Ahhh... but along Tramps original thought...
I was *amazed* at how much difference the XB9SX hand guards made. I have all the parts necessary in the garage to make heated gear / heated grips, and it sits there collecting dust. My hands were the weak point, and when I bought a $8000 pair of handguards (that, today only, included a complete motorcycle at no extra charge ), the problem was solved.
I think they would retrofit to a tuber with no problem. |
Tramp
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 11:27 am: |
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reep- i've been advised of the near-absence of health issues from dc and low-freq. ac.(by electrical engineers) sounds like you know your she-at!
easy rider- trust me, there is amazing stuff available in skiwear, that fits fine under my riding grea, that will keep you as warm as if not warmer than the electric stuff will. and how, exactly, is the elctric stuff going to afford the rider more protection in a fall? i'm confused (which isn't necessarily saying much )
with ggod gloves and clothing, heated stuff is silly and excessive. i've commuted to jersey daily, all winter long, on my s2 (when it still had all the nice, warm body work!), 40 minutes or more each way, sub-zero a lot of the time.
hands and everything stayed warm with good ski gloves and jacket. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 12:56 pm: |
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I tried the good ski gloves, patagonia liners with north face overgloves, about as light, flexible, compact, and warm as you can get.
I was not comfortable with "feel" from the bike. I could not feel the location of the brake and clutch lever, could not control throttle slippage the way I liked, and still was getting cold (probably more from circulation failures then insulation failures).
Thats one place where heated grips could probably help... better control and still stay warm. |
Tramp
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 01:34 pm: |
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i can certainly see an intelligent argument for the heated grips.
there are so many different ski gloves available, though, that you can find good ones with decent feel. |
Easy_rider
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 05:29 pm: |
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Maybe I've become a slave to fashion...
My expectation is that the vest will fit under my leather jacket. Getting the equivalent in insulation value from fleece/ski jackets would require a larger outer jacket. I'd start looking like the Michelin Man!
Personally, for my 20 minute ride to work fleece is enough for the body. A vest would only become an option for me if I did long rides at higher speeds in the colder weather.
My hands need something better. There may be something that would work, but I've tried a couple different gloves without getting good enough.
I've laughed at the Beemer guys in the past, but after hearing a friend describe heated grips as "A pleasure unlike any other" I'm interested in trying. Since the bike suddenly needs a new set of grips now seems like the time. Even from a purely financial view, $27 plus some hardware seems more efficient than trying other options. |
Tramp
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 06:58 pm: |
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I freely admit the prudence of that plan! |
Henrik
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 08:31 pm: |
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Heated grips along with a heated vest and an Aerostitch suit has kept me warm and toasty on all day rides in "around freezing" temperatures. Doing 3-500 mile days in such temperatures will drop your core temperature no matter what sort of layering. You'll need to add some heat, and heated gear does just that for ya'
Henrik |
Easy_rider
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 10:09 pm: |
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All right, who are you and what did you do with Tramp?!! |
Road_thing
| | Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 05:49 pm: |
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What is this thing you call "freezing temperatures?"
It's 100 in Houston today...
rt |
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