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     Ratbuell |
This is related to the Covid thread. Post here when you see or hear about a(nother) person who "dies suddenly". Athletes, execs, children, people who SHOULDN'T BE HAVING CORONARY PROBLEMS. There is no such thing as a "stroke season" - unlike what some doctor is trying to push (like "flu season"). https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/unbelieva ble-urgent-care-physician-warns-stroke-season-flu- season-video/ here's the whole thread from my B-body (Chrysler cars) forum: https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/ died-suddenly.257740/ Some links from the thread - and before anyone starts crying "right wing conspiracy!", keep in mind, these are ACTUAL DEAD PEOPLE. Not "fudged statistics" or "biased reporting"...this is HAPPENING, folks. RIGHT NOW. https://brownstone.org/articles/new-autopsy-report -reveals-those-who-died-suddenly-were-likely-kille d-by-the-covid-vaccine/?fbclid=IwAR0lx-X9hpmPW8qv- 1rmXPcKHrUlv3gGSBkGILksYhAUHvc-AvDaRc9OJ0Y&mibexti d=Zxz2cZ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/gateway-p undit-reported-year-fda-finally-admits-pfizer-covi d-vaccine-causes-blood-clots/ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/vaers-sho wing-4070-increase-miscarriages-stillbirths-since- mrna-roll/ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/massachus etts-state-police-releases-statement-following-sud den-deaths-three-officers-within-four-days/ https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/01/11 /vogue-model-tatjana-patitz-dies-at-56/?utm_source =facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR0rpSdQRFQ1T YGxXJ6CUNjiJjmn_GONEgIYN-MCtqnEEAeb0IFOIVk4Iqo https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/01/16 /apparent-heart-attack-american-idol-contestant-cj -harris-dies-at-31/ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/freedom-f lyers-organization-wealthy-businessman-have-reache d-out-and-want-unvaccinated-pilots-to-fly-their-je ts-video/ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/2-year-ol d-child-dies-suddenly-one-day-receiving-covid-vacc ine-annual-flu-vaccine/ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/dr-harrie t-skepdoc-hall-staunch-critic-anti-vaxxers-alterna tive-medicine-dies-suddenly-sleep/ https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharma ceuticals/us-says-pfizers-bivalent-covid-shot-may- be-linked-stroke-older-adults-2023-01-13/ https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-faa-has-ver y-quietly-tacitly https://www.westernjournal.com/known-sportscaster- 20-years-never-seen-many-stories-young-athletes-dy ing/ https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/01/20/fox- news-executive-alan-komissaroff-dead-47/ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/35-year-o ld-middle-school-coach-teacher-drops-dead-front-cl ass-suffering-heart-attack/ | ||
| Ourdee |
I liked it when they tried to blame it on artificial sweeteners. Or it's all just a coincidence. | ||
| Oldog |
May I Back Track Pres Trump is told about dangerous chinese virus from Wuhan. it comes to light that the Virus may be man made, from a lab in Wuhan President bans Travel to& from China but too late, the contagion makes it to North America. In an effort to lessen the death toll predicted by Fauchi and other "experts" numerous drastic actions were taken including attempting to develop a Vaccine The Vaccine was "fast tracked" based on advice given to President Trump. so minimal testing was done because of the emergency. so an emergency measure action has caused problems, The current in power law makers have not done any thing to help but have "mandated" the "JAB" when in fact the case count was falling. But now we may have people dying from the effects of a genetic engineering "experiment" [ the jab] gone south. You realize that Fauchi was a staunch Clinton supporter. On an aside the new testimate book of revaluation speaks of people dying young and suddenly. Im waiting on the left's air heads to blame it on Trump. BTW had covid 2 times no jab, I am old with heart problems. so Follow the "science?" •••• Fauchi, and the sell outs. | ||
| Oldog |
Joe interesting thing of FB today, saw a reel from TT a lab scientist was saying that of 8~10 K tests for covid were not covid but regular type A flu. and there has been wide spread mis reporting, and that the tests were checked by outside labs to independently confirm results. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I agree. We may be witnessing the beginning of the End Times. Regardless of your religion...fact is, this is happening. The pResident has - yet again - extended the "emergency", so no recourse for those who are losing loved ones; losing physical capability; losing income (either through jab-induced illness, or through losing their job over NOT having the jab). Note the link above concerning the FAA, and pilots... This isn't about health, and anyone who tells you that is absolutely, completely, totally full of SHIT. This, is about CONTROL. Period. No jab here either. Turned 50 in September. Recently upped my daily cardio from 1,000 meters on the rowing maching (total time 8 minutes; 10-set intervals with 30 seconds between each set; calorie burn over 200; HR 160 at end, 120 after 3 min), to 1000M rowing PLUS 15 min on the exercise bike (average rpm 90, distance 5.1 miles average, HR 150/115, another 250 calories burned). I've probably had it at least once. I refuse to quit. If my accident in '08 didn't take me...neither will this! I'll fight it as long as I can. Medically...AND politically. Might be my first tattoo - "NO COVID JAB" on each underarm, in case I'm ever in hospital again... | ||
| Ratbuell |
saw a reel from TT a lab scientist was saying that of 8~10 K tests for covid were not covid but regular type A flu. and there has been wide spread mis reporting, and that the tests were checked by outside labs to independently confirm results. Yep, and that's been "out there" for a couple years now. Funny how "flu" simply VANISHED, eh? But, this thread is more about ...well, the title of the thread. People simply dropping dead "for no reason", who should not, for ANY medical reason, have a heart condition that will kill them instantly like that. They used to ask us if we were jabbed so we could get into a damn McDonalds...but if we ask if all these dead people were jabbed? We're "ruining the memory of the dead" and "damaging their image". Bullshit. | ||
| Aesquire |
Experimental technology vaccine with fast tracked limited testing. I knew that when I took it. If I have side effects, they're buried under preexisting conditions, albeit I haven't had an EKG lately. But my body, my choice. You do you. However, there was an unprecedented spike in sudden death with European, young, male, athletes, who got "the jab" early to compete internationally. Unknown cause, strokes, mostly, heart failure from inflammation. More recently, my buddy's wife's sister died of stroke the week she got the mRNA spike protein vaccine. Family history of inflammation diseases. So my buddy's wife's doc told her not to get it. He didn't either because he's skeptical. They've had Covid, probably twice. Last year, tested positive, fairly bad coughing and lethargy. Probably Delta or Omicron, from timing. ( They don't test for which mutation ) And... Back in Jan '20, after returning from Florida, family got sick, pretty bad respiratory uber cold, lasted about two weeks. Probably Alpha, but that was before tests were available and the news explosion. I flew down ( no masks, then ) crashed on his daughter's couch and drove back with him. I didn't get sick. Great trip for extremes. Takeoff delayed to deice plane in snowstorm. ( yes, please do ) lunch on beach at Daytona, bikinis. The drive home went from jeans are too hot to Ice Storm of the Century and skating a Lincoln Town Car with balding summer tires through the PA mountains. Fun! You have to Weigh risk vs. reward. I had elderly, ill parents and am in the high risk groups. Probably All of them. And it looked like an old folk massacre, so I took the experimental vaccine with eyes open so I could care for the folk. ( And that meant I was interacting with the public ) If I had been 40 and not had old folk to care for, I may have chosen not to. But work might have insisted. Didn't cross that bridge, myself. I'm pretty libertarian, but I'm also in favor of the childhood diseases being vaccinated against. Long history of risk/reward to lean on. I have zero doubt they reduce needless tragic death. I also have zero doubt that they also kill some kids. The suppression and lying denials that the experimental mRNA spike protein vaccine had side effects and potential health issues including death, is a pile of criminal act. Dr. Fauci even said he lied so there'd be less resistance to getting the jab. That's monstrous evil. Period fracking dot. Unethical. Brutal violation of the Hippocratic oath. If you go by Dante, I Know what circle of Hell he belongs in, and I want my taxes to pay for his care for the rest of his life in a maximum security prison. Preferably in Turkey. I don't advocate vigilante justice. But the illegal and immoral vaccine mandates for this experimental vaccine should never be allowed to happen again, and everybody who got screwed by them should get justice. Jobs back and back pay. Nothing can resurrect the dead. The lawsuits will be ongoing for years. And WHEN the next plague comes out of the Communist China hell, our politicians must not be allowed to repeat this debacle. | ||
| Oldog |
Might be my first tattoo - "NO COVID JAB" on each underarm, in case I'm ever in hospital again... good on you for staying fit, it sucks if you are not,(AMHIK) LOL on the tat. } I am lucky, My employer is not given to stupidity, I'm 65 and still working! He has had the jabs, but takes blood thinners, Former Mother in law had the jabs and had massive clotting last spring, very near death on that. Covid is just one of several stinky things going on in dc. | ||
| Oldog |
And WHEN the next plague comes out of the Communist China hell, our politicians must not be allowed to repeat this debacle. I don't feel so much like a conspiracy theorist I think that things like this and the 2" murder hornets getting over here were deliberate acts against us, all the crap with the Ukraine emptying the armory you have to wonder whats next.. } I suspect that it (jab issues) will be more wide spread than we realize. | ||
| Ratbuell |
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/former-detroi t-lions-player-has-reportedly-died-at-25/ar-AA16LQ es?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=784bd677ba794a138500aae52214 e71e | ||
| Ratbuell |
https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/entertainm ent-celebrity/sopranos-actor-john-ventimiglia-s-da ughter-odele-dead-at-25/ar-AA16M3RR?ocid=msedgntp& cvid=a12ad6ffaa8c474c9249805a925a794d | ||
| Ratbuell |
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/family/montco- mom-of-2-dies-at-27/ar-AA16JBeG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid =62778af4a99c46ad87aa3d935dd16426 | ||
| Bandm |
https://euroweeklynews.com/2023/01/26/young-female -footballer-dies-suddenly-spain/ | ||
| Bandm |
I think this is a listed or suspected side effect of the jab. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/clemson-s-b revin-galloway-from-hospital-bed-my-balls-exploded /ar-AA16NSU6?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7de42e7e13c8499bb2 ccf4e5e24b2482 | ||
| Aesquire |
I suspect that it (jab issues) will be more wide spread than we realize. I read a "rebuttal" article on how the jab couldn't cause female sterility because... Then a rant about a study that had a major logic error. The rant, not the study. To paraphrase & convert from med speak to mundane bike language... "There's no reason to think nails cause flat tires because we don't nail roads together." I'm not saying that the writer was wrong that there isn't a potential sterility issue from the exact cause investigated in the study he quotes. But the blanket denial that there can't be such a problem by slightly different means was bull excrement. I don't know if the writer's politically biased or paid by Pfizer, but his article was propaganda, not science. Even ignorant me could see that. Seems like 90+% of the defense of mandatory vaccination for Covid, specifically, is denying any side effects exist, and if you say there might, you're a heretic to be burned at the stake. That's the exact opposite of responsibility. Every medicine, drug, vaccine, treatment, has potential side effects that have to be measured, acknowledged, and considered. For a simple example. I have taken CPR courses in 2 centuries, for now more than half a century. They changed over time to reflect actual research and results in the real world. But one thing hasn't changed, and that's the fact that if I lean hard enough on your chest to get your heart to pump blood to your brain, that pressure can break ribs and tear cartilage. Admittedly, the risk/reward calculation is pretty simple. If you live, you will be in some pain, maybe for weeks. If I don't, you are dead. Suppress the facts on risk/reward is unethical. Probably evil. I don't know, because of evil politicians, if the risk for a 20, or 12, year old is greater with the jab or the genetically engineered plague. That's unacceptable. I don't care how "well meaning" they think, or say, they are. I won't insult anyone who choses not to take an experimental vaccine. I have different standards for proven ones. I have no doubts about the risk/reward figures for Smallpox and pneumonia vaccine. And if the "most paranoid" fears about "the jab" are real... Well, I'm still waiting for the mind control to engage and me praising Kamala for her eloquence. | ||
| Ratbuell |
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/nfl-player-je sse-lemonier-dies-at-25-while-expecting-child-with -girlfriend-gone-too-soon/ar-AA15W6Nk?ocid=msedgnt p&cvid=79f91e0a0f5a4605954c81c5a18f6e75 Notice how many of these are healthy, young, athletic...(military-aged) MEN? Hmmm..... | ||
| Etennuly |
My X is a wmart long time employee. The first shot she took to avoid reduced hours and forced mask wearing. A few months later, the same threats. She got the second shot to comply, not forced of course. Two days later she had two heart attacks. Never tested positive. No heart health history. SO... Why is it that such a contagious disease required a 10 inch long swab stick to find mucus in the back of the sinus cavity to test. It seems to me that a simple rub across a lip or the tongue would suffice. When they needed more positive numbers for political reasons, why would they just put the disease on the test swab sticks? In, out + -, what difference does it make if they get their numbers. Watching it happen live, how is it that the numbers in Detroit were too low at one time. The next day numbers were up to match predictions within precinct lines? There is so much evidence. It could take days. I vote BS! But what do I know. I only witnessed it before my eyes. | ||
| Bandm |
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21184827/tributes-mi a-jennings-macclesfield-death/ | ||
| Bandm |
https://twitter.com/i/status/1614985363281580035 | ||
| Aesquire |
The number of death by coincidence, ( great video! ) in young fit people is interesting. Young fat people dying of stroke and weird heart problems is just accepted as normal. Because fat people drop dead all the time. I wonder how the statistics work out for the current trend of suddenly dropped dead for no reason the press will say? Just because it looks like young athletic folk are suddenly dying in unusual numbers, doesn't mean there isn't a big spike in slobs doing the same. There's no news interest in stories about "30 year old cranky obese lady nobody liked" who dropped dead. Doesn't mean it isn't happening. And I'm not being mean to other fat people nobody likes. ( self deprecating joke? Your guess ) It's just that if they're 50+ it's not "unexpectedly dropped dead" it's just dropped dead and any surprise is directly related to how fit others perceive them. That older guy or gal who is a fitness fanatic and alpha personality, the successful business type who runs marathons is considered ironic when they keel over with no warning, but it's not the same for someone in their 20s. If they are 66 and you've lost track of the heart attacks, or any age & they're the ones you see in the power chair shopping cart overflowing the seat, & probably posted somewhere in the "people of Wal-Mart" thread, then it's not a surprise at all. They're probably on some pool list. "Who had Charlie shoveling the driveway?" Mean, but true. Just pointing out preconceived notions. The statistics from Europe, ( the only ones I've seen ) certainly show a big spike in coincidence. Something is going on. Separating the cause is difficult. My initial assumption is that the bioengineered plague that hits old/fat/diabetic/poor nutrition folk much harder, according to a couple years of lousy statistics and a buncha dishonesty to cast doubt on them, is probably more to blame for the deaths of the "preexisting" group, and less but not zero from vaccine side effects. And the reverse for younger, fit folk. However, that's just a guess, since real science is lacking or censored. And anything censored is automatically assumed to be enemy action, or deliberate cover up by rich evil people, like the head of Pfizer, or Congresscritters , or the New York Times. But that's just an assumption based on facts from WW2 up to today. | ||
| Aesquire |
I find this a solid source that sticks to quoteing & analyzing the official sources. Some, but reasoned opinion. I'm sure part of his approach is to avoid censorship, but this is a teaching doctor and has followed this from the start. | ||
| Bandm |
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/football- player-collapses-suddenly-suffering-cardiac-arrest -beitostolen-cup-norway/ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/algerian- football-player-drops-dead-african-nations-champio nship-match-video/ https://newportdispatch.com/2023/01/19/staff-save- childs-life-at-jay-peak-waterpark/ | ||
| Ratbuell |
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/former-penn -basketball-player-cameron-gunter-dies-31/ar-AA16R VRi?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=747b384ed46a4776911180707d5 958a0 | ||
| Aesquire |
https://babylonbee.com/news/djokovic-declared-us-o pen-champion-by-default-after-all-the-other-player s-die-of-heart-attacks | ||
| Whisperstealth |
As a middle age fat guy, I'm in the high risk category. I didn't get the Jab, and I'm more convinced than ever I made the right choice. I'm pretty sure I've gotten Poo's Breath twice. First in January of '21, then in spring of '22. The first time was miserable but not absolutely horrible. The second time was tamer. Both times my immune system did its job. For that I am very grateful. I've upped my cardio some, and need to up it some more. I too intend to fight this thing. And fight it Sans the Jab! | ||
| Bandm |
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/olympic-bob sledder-48-dies-after-suffering-a-sudden-brain-ane urysm/ss-AA16WT0t?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=956b0cfaf86b4 88aad9e24d809c7b099#image=2 | ||
| Bandm |
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/23-year-o ld-university-arizona-swimmer-ty-wells-dies-sudden ly/ | ||
| Aesquire |
I'm pretty sure I've gotten Poo's Breath twice. Without going into specific immune system details, afaik, natural immunity is more complete than you get from the mRNA vaccine. So I don't see any reason to get the jab if you've had it. And like my friends who have had it twice, and many "famous" people who got Covid-19 soon after vaccination ( and bragged about getting the vaccine a week before they got the darn Coronavirus anyway, or we wouldn't know ) because it's a fast mutating Coronavirus, like a cold, protection from last month's strain doesn't help with next months. Also, there may be an additional, unnecessary risk from getting a vaccine to kick start your immune response if you already have that response "installed" naturally. MAYBE. Could be a rumor with no real basis! That's still to be determined, hopefully by actual research and not by decree from a politician who doesn't know a Coronavirus from the thing his minions are trying to fix from his habit of watching xhamster. Insert here rant on lawyers who think arguing glibly changes physics. I'm ABSOLUTELY NOT OFFERING MEDICAL ADVICE! But I agree with you that there's no good reason for you to get a vaccine for something you've already had. Vitamin D, probably, if you haven't been outside for a while. Actually 2 somethings. I'm mildly curious which strains you and my friends had, but tests are expensive. ( iirc, you might need electron microscope pictures. I don't think there's a commercially available strain test ) | ||
| Ratbuell |
I don't think there is a strain test. Hell, even pharma admits the tests can't really distinguish covid from the flu. Seriously. Look it up. And, the body DOES have problems combining natural immunity with the jab - it attacks healthy cells within itself. It's called Rheumatoid Arthritis. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
I'm mildly curious as to which strain(s) I had as well, but not curious enough to get an electron microscope out lol, if indeed they really can tell the difference between them. The question I have is: What are the families of those that die under a cloud of vaccine suspicion going to do? What is their recourse? And if no legal recourse presents itself, what then? Interesting times indeed. |
