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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2021 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loader jumps out of the Ontos to reload. But you do get 6 shots, single, pairs, or everything. Read that last word like Gary Oldman in Leon The Professional.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c

I don't think anyone except The Marines used it. The Army for a short time in 'Nam...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M50_Ontos

I was told by a retired Marine that the .50 cal spotting guns were very useful to kill trucks. And if it didn't...
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2021 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Did it have a pipe-looking thing sticking out the side?



I wish.

I have been mock attacked by an AH-1 Supercobra and AV8B Harrier.

On the former, I just came out of cover and concealment to shoot blanks at it. It came around quickly and had that 20mm on me.

On the latter, my squad and I were chasing rattlesnakes on a hilltop where we were just supposed to lay low after an excercise. It was impressive to watch the entire bomb run that was meant to level our hilltop. Better than any airshow

That said, there were people unimpressed with my methodology for inducing such actions from our combat aircraft.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2021 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I never got tired of watching Harriers launch and land.
They reminded me of dragonflies, the intakes are so big clouds swirl inside.
We carried Cobras too but they were only impressive when they were unloading ordnance as a morale booster.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2021 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would be a definite brown pants moment if you were a bad guy and a Cobra or A10 pops up over the ridge and is heading straight at you! Or worse, with a female pilot who is mad at her boyfriend.
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2021 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Or worse, with a female pilot who is mad at her boyfriend.



You're not kidding there.
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2021 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was fortunate to work in places where the jets came over close enough that I listened to the air sizzle after they went by. Neat to experience.
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2021 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The most hair raising experience I had was having the Blue Angels practicing overhead in Jacksonville, FL. One of them had their nose pointed directly at me as I looked up as it approached at some speed. I feared imminent death until it pulled up at the last second. That gave me an appreciation for how precise their timing needs to be and the real dangers of performing so close to the ground. They are literally a split second from disaster at all times.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2021 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of the memorable moments of the First Gulf War ( Busy the Elder ) was on day one-ish when the Marines started freeing Kuwait out of Arabia, the cameraman was behind a 7ish ft. wall with the troops peeking over & ducking back down. The camera swings to a Marine Cobra hover taxiing with the skids about 2 ft up. It lifts up for just a few seconds, a missile zips over the wall, and the Cobra dances sideways a foot up to a new position. The camera swings to the wall and an APC flips into view tumbling end over end and drops out of sight as a fireball rises...

Still a decent flying weapon.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2021 - 05:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At the start of Covid, I saw a meme that said that the Blue Angels were canceling all their shows because of having to stay at least 6 ft apart, but that the Thunderbirds were carrying on. I sent it to a couple ex-Navy pilots and said to not send it to some mutual friend ex-USAF pilots, so they wouldn't feel bad. One wrote back and said, "too late, I already did!"
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Court
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2021 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool stuff . . . we have, as some of you know . . . a well seasoned Cobra warrior/pilot right here on Badweb
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2021 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,

I did not know that, who?
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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2021 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.captainsjournal.com/2021/08/16/totalit arians-everywhere-throughout-history-enact-control -over-weapons-the-taliban-come-for-the-guns/
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 - 04:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, my 1911 frame looks proper now. I can resume living again. I do need grip bushings. The delay is agonizing.

Speaking of AH-1's...one flew directly over the house this weekend as the GF and I were in the pool. Strange, but less scary than the black helicopters.

And also, Rare Breed triggers were deemed machine guns by the ATF. They are a mechanically forced reset trigger. It requires human finger pressure to fire rapidly. I don't know why a regulatory agency thinks they have the authority to make arbitrary laws. I may blame Trump on that one (I.E. bump stocks). The company is suing the ATF.
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2021 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My ODG grips.
20210819_070733 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
20210819_070544 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr

The N8 Tactical holster I've been using lately. It works really well.
20210819_073310 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2021 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice. Holster looks more comfy than hard Kydex, how is retention?

The Beretta is an evolution of a 1900's design

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IGMgqmbMppA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k2xgdOZ_SCM

Forgotten Weapons has an interesting one...



I'm NOT knocking the 92. It's not perfect, you might get cracking after 10,000 rounds ( which may just be heat treatment variation ) and it's a Crunch-n-ticker, DA/SA trigger, which some loathe but in the highly evolved 92FS version, solid.
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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2021 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So it's more modern than a 1911...
I love the trigger on my 92S.(Thanks to Pete Valentine at Accokeek Sports in Waldorf, MD)
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2021 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Consider the 1911 is the evolution of a 1905 design, and the Browning High Power the last iteration John Moses actually worked on. Finished & refined by Dieudonne SaiveIt, that's it for that lineage.

The Browning tilting barrel locking system became the dominant way as so many copied it, including in the 92 & Glock.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_92

So the Browning line runs from 1899-1931, with the slide & tilting barrel as the technology standouts.

The Beretta is certainly much newer, 1975/6, which makes it a contemporary of the Glock, 1982.

Both are evolution of previous designs. When the patent expires, it's no longer theft! ; )

The difference is Glock was a "new" company founded by former experts of bombed out ones, and all the details "stolen" to make the pistol were from others.

The Barreta 92 also takes design features from others, Browning tilting barrel and magazine, Walther slide lock variation on the tilting barrel, etc. But! Also draws heavily on the 1915/1917 Barettas and other in house refinements.

So, yeah. In one sense the 92 is "newer" than the 1911, by 16 years, from early predecessors. Or 60 years younger by production and adoption by militaries.

The 92 is in the Cold War decades of incremental improvements and refinements to turn of the century invention.

Technology development goes in jumps and slopes. The big jumps, ( slide operation, bolt action, smokeless powder ) and slopes ( the Evolution of Mauser bolt action rifles, the use of new alloys, ) is typical of lots of tech. Airplanes, computers, plumbus...
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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2021 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm puzzled by the reference to a tilting barrel. The Delayed Blow-back apparently came from the P38; the barrel is registered in the slide at the front and the blowback lock.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2021 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ooops. My bad, that's an error. I'll blame cut & paste lazy and poor proof reading. Good catch. That should be "slide" not tilting barrel.
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2021 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I'm NOT knocking the 92. It's not perfect, you might get cracking after 10,000 rounds ( which may just be heat treatment variation ) and it's a Crunch-n-ticker, DA/SA trigger, which some loathe but in the highly evolved 92FS version, solid.



The slides don't crack after 10K rounds. Early military versions did with a suppressor attached. A locking block might break, but the current style lasts much longer. The trigger is a typical DA auto, which tends to mean a less than ideal double action (compared to, say, a good revolver trigger) and a slightly sloppy single action.

My GF has a 92S that is incredibly accurate...and my 92FS is no slouch. It's the only fully box stock pistol I own. You can always count on them being perfectly reliable. They also have the most consistent ejection pattern I've seen in any pistol.

Also, it is not a delayed blowback, but a short recoil mechanism.
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Fireboltwillie
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2021 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

regarding cracked slides, the military admitted that it was their fault... over pressured ammo, but Beretta fixed the issue of the broken slide being propelled into the face of the shooter. regarding a crunchy trigger, easily solved with aftermarket parts.. i've turned my 92FS into a sweet shooting home built Langdon Tactical firearm.. the trigger is incredibly smooth, linear with no stacking. with spring swapping, i am at about 6 lbs d.a. trigger pull, and about 3 lbs max on s.a. and the reset on the s.a. is about 2 millimeters. damn fine weapon it's turned into. i have about 3k rounds through it. no failures other than a bad round or two. also, i have replaced the slide with one that has an rmr cut, so i have a dot on it.
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Fireboltwillie
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2021 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2021 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Schweet...
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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2021 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Schweet...
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2021 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was an ammunition problem that occurred in early runs of the military spec ammo. Apparently powder charges weren't adjusted for the thicker brass that was subsequently used. Supposedly the pressures were near proof level. Seems like a major oversight for an ammunition manufacturer like Winchester.
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2021 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 1911 is back together. She looks real good. The grip bushings were a real pain with that Cerakote on the threads. The slide stop and slide to frame fit are quite tight. So far the one mag I've tried doesn't fall free. It gets caught in the first fraction of an inch after releasing. I'll try other mags...when I can find them. I'm sure it'll wear in, regardless. I look forward to having a rust free gun.
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2021 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It needs some breaking in (again), but looks good.
20210820_080046 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
20210820_080618 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2021 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The frame as it came from my coworker. Not good
649721316 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2021 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got my parts bin 1911A1 cerakoted black matte a couple of years ago.
Saved me a couple hundred bucks by doing my own dis/assembly.

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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2021 - 05:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting gun. I found those extended slide stops to get in the way early on. That short trigger is also way too short for me. The high rise beaver tails have me spoiled, as well.

It took a few mags to get her working, but I have a good 1911 again.

One of my mags got bulged at the feed lips at some point. Oh well. It made it over two decades.
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