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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was watching you 'patriots' fail. You learned the most important part of the revolution. There are more of you than officers/soldiers.

You gained the building.

You wandered the halls.

And for want? A selfi? A chance to be memed on the internet?

Cause you failed. You failed so hard you uninspired your Republican allies in office. I'm fact you were so uninspiring you made Lindsay Graham turn tail. That's trump's lap dog For pucks sake! Lol

I can't stop laughing. Even while typing this.

It's like you got all dressed up as native Americans. Got to Boston Harbor and forgot to throw the tea in.

Got damn. Congrats on already being the biggest losers of 2021!
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Steveford
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With any luck, maybe this will snap the trance and people will wonder what the hell were we thinking and how did we get this way?
I never understood how a con artist from Queens could snare so many people with his non stop stream of bullshit.
It's not that hard to fact check stuff but I suppose you have to want to do it in the first place.
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You're right! They should have burned the building down like good Antifarts or BLTs would do. Then maybe the 11:00 news would say things like it was a mostly peaceful demonstration, or that the anger was justified. because the police weren't defunded.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yay, we're going to pay more taxes, have lower paying jobs, be stuck inside wearing masks forever, have our guns confiscated, watch our fuel prices skyrocket, and get bent over by China.

Congratulations. We're ALL gonna get screwed by Joe & the Ho.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just talked to my pop who has sworn off talking politics with me for the last year due to the stress in his life.
We talked a bit about yesterday and I was amazed when I voiced my thoughts about Antifa causing the problems and he said that was his first thought when he saw the violence.

My pop is still the wisest man I know.

Z
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Two_seasons
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bloated gov't all started when DC got an endless stream of cash...Federal Income Tax, the 16th Amendment!
All that endless cash that NEVER stops coming in.

And they've had more of it over the last 4 years (adjusted for inflation) then ever before!!!

Prior to that, DC and the Federal fools had to make do with the cash from other countries that wanted to do
business with us...TARIFFS funded our Federal boys back then.

If you want to kill the funding for the local dog catcher to the state funded agencies,
(PA being an excellent example) stop paying your property taxes.
Here in Wisconsin, it takes two years for the sheriff to own it.
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Steveford
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, what about somebody else? Huh? Answer me that one!
Hey, look, a squirrel!!!!!
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Mnscrounger
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First, I was as upset about the storming of the Capitol, as I was the burning of the Third precinct in Minneapolis. Both represented a mob mentality and abandonment of civil order and the rule of law. I was also dismayed to hear that four people lost their lives yesterday as a result. To me, the "Best part about yesterday", was the reconvening of the joint session afterward. The objectors not being cowed, and refusing to remain silent. The votes were heard, the debate engaged, and the votes were cast.
Regardless of which side of the aisle you lean, the Constitution, and our rule of law was preserved. That gives me hope for the future of our nation.
But tomorrow is another day and freedom needs constant vigilance...
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the Constitution, and our rule of law was preserved

I'm gonna beg to differ on that one - the election, to anyone with an iota of common sense, was a pure sham. And now, the Left knows they can get away with it. States changed voting laws without following constitutional procedures, at whim, and helped enable the biggest farce in our Nation's history.

We're the laughing stock of the globe.
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Mnscrounger
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't disagree with you regarding the constitutionality of the States processes Rat, but the purpose of the debate yesterday was to air those points. Which was done. Those objections were raised and the votes were cast. I am also disappointed that the votes weren't there to overturn the result, but that's the process, and has been for nearly 200 years. Individual states to varying degrees may well have subverted their own laws, but the process at the federal level did exactly what it was designed to do. I'm not willing to overthrow the Constitutional form of government I and many others have sworn to uphold. Neither will I stop demanding election integrity, transparency and accountability in government. I will re focus my talking points to be more effective in debate with opponents, be critically watchful of the new administration, and I absolutely will continue to defend the Bill of Rights, and the people who exercise them.
I recall reading a quote somewhere:
"When you think it's time to start burying your guns, it's actually time to dig them up."
I don't think we're at the point of revolution yet, (or sedition depending on your point of view), but I'm much more mindful today of where the shovels are.
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still not a cohesive thought amongst the group of why the 'patriots' just gave up. You are a sad sad group of lazy men who are trying to cosplay revolutionaries. There is no need to worry about a civil war as you are too fooking lazy.

Go back to your keyboards warriors you have at least four years to complain Biden isn't your president.
LOLOLOL
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Tootal
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He's not our president, Kamala is! Joe won't make 4 years. The idiots that stormed the building were in part Antifa. I had a friend that was there and he emailed me and told me not to believe what was on tv. He said he thought it must have been the largest group ever to be in Washington DC. He said if half of them were armed they could have taken DC easily but they weren't there for anarchy, just to protest. He wasn't part of the "mob" that attacked Congress. Those folks were not Patriots, they were idiots.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe already told you he doesn't work for you.
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was a demonstration not a revolution. What silliness you spew.

Leftists can act like spoiled children when they don't get their way; act out in the most ridiculous of tantrums...burn loot, and randomly bully innocent people over nothing more than propaganda...and here you are...riding a high horse.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 02:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I actually am conflicted. I didn't want to see any unlawful conduct, just a massive gathering of people, but if it was to be, then I kinda agree that it would have been better to have actually filled the place and occupied it for a day or two, zero destruction or looting though. A peaceful sit-in.

As to four people dying. The young lady was shot, questionably in my view, will have to learn more on that. But the other three were medical issues, heart attacks I'm guessing. No?

How's things Spidy? You rolling with the Antifa?
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 02:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This was an Antifa setup. I have been to Trump rallies and these rioters were nothing like the people I saw there. Use your brains and not your emotions. Look at the thugs that stormed the Capitol. They were not Trump people and this was the same as the Burning of the Reichstag. The DC police let in five busloads of Antifa on Tuesday yet we somehow never heard about them on Wednesday. These thugs bought Trump memorabilia and masqueraded as Trump supporters.

Look at what your brain is telling you rather than your emotions. Your hatred of President Trump is belittling you as a human being.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 02:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is comical to read a headline like

"Rioting Mob of Angry Trump Supporters Storm Capitol",

and then watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUJr5inU-3Y

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Blake
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 02:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then watching Biden characterize it as an "insurrection" is just too much.
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Steveford
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 05:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks like somebody told The Donald what the word sedition means.
Don't think he can lie his way out of this one.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-finally-admits-de feat-a-new-administration-will-be-inaugurated-on-j anuary-20-011501284.html
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Boy, that mob sure was scary.

Spidy and Steve are perfect caricatures of what the hard right wing nuts believe Democrats are.

Spiteful, petty, pathetic.

So, Biden won... whether he stole it or not, who really knows... but here we are.

I didn't like Obama, but I gave him the full benefit of the doubt for 3 of the first 4 years. It's really hard to do when the Nobel committee starts handing out prizes for skin color. At that point, nothing is really real any more.

Consider the following:

Scripture clearly indicates that no leader comes to power except through God’s will.

To be clear, there are two wills of God: (1) His sovereign will and (2) His moral or permissive will.

In God’s moral will, he wills us to do certain things and avoid other things. God wills us to avoid sin. But, we have free volition of action and our wills are bent against God towards sin. God knows all of this. He contemplates it in His sovereign will.

God’s sovereign will means He is ultimately in charge of all things. He has planned out the history of the world in order to glorify Him and bring about the ultimate correction.

So, for example, in Genesis, Joseph’s brothers sell him into slavery and tell their father that Joseph is dead. Joseph, in Genesis 50, declares, “As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today.”

It was against God’s moral law that Joseph’s brothers should treat a child of God so terribly. But God, as part of His sovereign will, used that injustice by Joseph’s brothers to bring about the salvation of Abraham’s descendants.

Or consider this passage from earlier in Genesis as God reveals a bit of his plan to Abram:

Then the Lord said to Abram, “Know for certain that your offspring will be sojourners in a land that is not theirs and will be servants there, and they will be afflicted for four hundred years. But I will bring judgment on the nation that they serve, and afterward they shall come out with great possessions. As for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried in a good old age. And they shall come back here in the fourth generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” Genesis 15:13-16 (ESV)

God already foresaw and had worked into His plan the injustices of Joseph’s brothers, but had already contemplated using that act to get Abraham’s descendants to Egypt where they would stay for 400 years. During that time, God would keep them from the Amorites. 400 years later, God would use the Israelites against the Amorites.

In the New Testament in both Romans 13, and in 1 Peter 2, God makes it very clear that no ruler comes to power except as part of God’s sovereign will. The leader being referenced at the time was Nero, the Roman Emperor who would ruthlessly persecute and kill the Christians.

What is dismaying to me is that this really is Christianity 101. Seeing some Christians express shock and dismay or provide odd rebuttals shows just how shallow some people’s faith is. Some demand to know just how every bad and awful event in history could be part of God’s will.

Overnight, from the Holocaust to American slavery to [insert terrible act you despise here], people could not understand how that could all be part of God’s will.

Again, none of those things are part of God’s permissive or moral will. He does not want us to act like that. But God gives us the freedom to act and we live in a fallen world where we are all sinners with a will bent away from God and bound to sin. We will not disrupt God’s plan for our salvation and He allows us to act, using our sins and bad actions, weaving them into the tapestry of a history He already knows for an outcome He has already foreordained. We will not disrupt the will of God. Every good and bad deed is part of a plan, the outcome of which we know, but the path of which is only incrementally revealed to us.

We now know that Joe Biden’s presidency is part of that plan, just as Donald Trump’s was. We now know just how shallow American Christianity is that some have chosen to believe the end of Trump’s presidency could be Satan disrupting God’s plan.

For all the bad acts, from the Holocaust to slavery, to the things you personally see as bad that others may not, like the end of the Trump presidency, focus instead on the cross. There, an innocent man died taking on all the sins of the world. So many sins were piled up on that one man at that one time that the sun went dark as the Father turned His back on the Son.

It appeared manifest evil had finally triumphed over divine good. The Creator of all things who spoke the universe into being was nailed to a cross and died.

But there, in the garden, at the beginning of time, God had already spoken to Satan. “I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.” Gen 3:15 (NIV). Satan had struck Christ’s heel, but on that cross thousands of years later, Christ was crushing Satan’s head. He would conquer death and save mankind.

All bad things, every single one you can name, is already woven into the fabric of human history as part of God’s sovereign will to affect His plan for our salvation. That includes the awful leaders of mankind coming to power from Nero to Hitler. It includes all the bad acts of humanity from plague and genocide to the death of an innocent man on the cross.

It includes the election of the President of the United States.

All these acts push history along to its ultimate resolution in Christ’s return and “we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.” Romans 8:28 (ESV).

So yes, the election of Joe Biden is not an act that undermines God’s plan or obstructs God’s will. It is expressly part of God’s sovereign will. “For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.” Romans 13:1 (ESV).

credit for arranging this material - Erick Erickson
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I honestly thought that all Americans, whether Democrat or Republican, Liberal or Conservative, Black or White, would have been appalled by the Fraud committed on November 3. I thought there would be almost universal demand to find the Truth wherever that led us. Fairness is what America is supposed to be about.

I was wrong.

Spidey and Steveford are examples of "the ends justify the means" mentality. That thought is corrosive and leads to anarchy, subversion and terror.

Look at history, particularly the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution and the Weimar Republic. What started as something "good", led to decay and chaos. In all cases, a tyrannical leader took over and the former system was swept away. I am afraid that is the process that America just entered into.

The Legislative Branch is irreconcilable. Congress is corrupt. Look at the Covid Relief Bill where Americans were given crumbs while the Oligarchy and foreign governments were given largess.

The Judicial Branch is ineffective and mostly acts as a pseudo Legislative Branch rather than protecting the Constitution.

The Executive Branch was clearly stolen and the Presidential Pretender hides in his basement and can't utter three sentences before screwing up.

The American People are no longer a Virtuous People and we will slide into Darkness because of our corruption. The next generation is lacking education and is fed doctrine. They will be saddled with onerous debt that we are now creating. With their Google mushed brains, they will vote and act like the Romans who lost their way and became a corrupt Empire.

China laughs and waits for their opportunity. The weakness and corruption of the Left is leading us to World War III, so you better start preparing.


(Message edited by reindog on January 08, 2021)
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do believe that God places those in authority over you/me. Please, note verse 8 in Psalms 147

4For the LORD taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.

5Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.

6Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;

7To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;

8To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

9To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

How do we bind kings? Through prayer. The first 3 verses of 147 are:

1Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.

2Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.

3Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.

God is the King of kings. Talk to the king's King today. Thank You Jesus.



To execute judgment written (twoedged sword is the bible), pray the word.
God listens to those obedient to His' word. Who is God?
The Lord alone is God, Jesus is Lord, Jesus Christ and Him crucified!
So, in closing, there is your sermon for today.
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Needs_o2
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

True to form!





Just like all those over the past four years suffering from TDS, they stomped their feet, screamed at the sky, and name called Trump every "ist" they could, so this shouldn't be and isn't a surprise to get this from those that discard facts, logic, and reason when they didn't get what they wanted. Now that they think they've "won", they still can't use/find facts, logic, and reason to support their views, they just stick their fingers in their ears and tongues out!

TRUE COLORS!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some interesting information (and video) here:

http://endoftheamericandream.com/questions-about-t he-chaos-at-the-capitol-that-desperately-need-to-b e-answered/
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

An Antifa terrorist was identified inside the Capitol. He said he was there only to "observe".
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86129squids
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

An Antifa terrorist was identified inside the Capitol. He said he was there only to "observe".

So... whom was it that stormed the Capitol? That one terrorist's buddies? All hired and bussed in?

Sources?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Read the link I posted above, Brad.

Live videos. As in, multiple.
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H0gwash
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2021 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad that at least some of the dumb ones who posted their theft selfies on the web have been arrested already.
Hopefully undercover Antifa will be similarly persecuted as the dust settles. It does seem at this point that even many busloads of imported Antifa would've been vastly outnumbered by the Trump mob who should have beaten the crap out of the imposters once things started becoming violent. If you were a peaceful demonstrator you really should have abandoned the protest at this point. It seems the Trump mob was happy to riot with them for the time being.
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Steveford
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2021 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Think what you wish about me but killing a Capitol Police Officer after you break your way into a building, rubbing your own poo poo on the walls and having guys roaming around in their combat gear with really long zip ties looking for people to hog tie doesn't really strike me as being very patriotic.
Rather the opposite, one would think.
Then again, I don't have much in common with these guys.





Or with their friends, for that matter.



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Steveford
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2021 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quite honestly, I think they're all crazy.
They could have booked a guided tour and then they wouldn't all be wanted for arrest.



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