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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do not want to make little machines for this. My MIL has a shed with the middle and one outer runner on her patio slab. It is about 12'x16'. Insulated and finished inside with electric, AC/heat, etc. It is her artist/she shed/sanctuary. Needles to say the runner on dirt has allowed it to tilt. I only need to move it 12 to 16" to have all three runners on the slab. There is 3.5" between the slab and under side of the shed. My jack will not fit in there. I have thought of drilling anchor points on the slab to use a come-a-long to winch it over. Vehicle access is limited by soggy yard and limited space. Any millwright ideas out there or am I on the right track?

I do have steel dowels and aluminum plates, but I am limited to not having a jack to lift it up so I can place them under it.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe this:

https://www.sunbeltrentals.com/equipment/items/1137/hydraulic-toe-jacks/

(Message edited by ducbsa on December 22, 2020)
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I looked at that page and got an idea. nuts bolts and pipe. I'll have to look at my collection. I'm thinking 3" long bolts and nuts in a 2" piece of pipe would give me a simple jack that would fit in the 3.5" space between the shed and slab.
Kind of how these jacks work:


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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A toe jack would work.
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ourdee

can you post up a photo of the shed you are going to move.

I second sunbelt rentals for a jack or come-along

enerpac makes all kinds of lifting pushing gear, I have been busy this afternoon evaluating our stuff for service.
can you safely raise it up and place it on pipes to roll it?
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A couple of sticks of dynamite will move it.

I have a floor jack that would probably fit.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Borrow an engine crane. Run a lag bolt into the end of the runners, hook the crane to the lag, and lift. Lift it enough to get a jack underneath. Or, lift enough to put 4 casters under it, at each end of each runner that's on the slab - then dolly it over and drop it down.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Screw a couple of short pieces of 4x4 to the sides of the shed high up enough to get your jack under them. Jack there.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not just fix the sagging end of the shed? Dig a hole deep enough for a bottle jack, take the sag out, and drop it back down on some new concrete footings, or shim up the ones that are already there. They may have settled all they're going to settle.
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fill the shed with Helium. When it becomes light enough, push it to where you want it to set, then just open the door and let the Helium out.

Easy peasy Japanesey.
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Mnscrounger
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can you get at the studs? when I needed to move my neighbors 14x22 garage he was adding on and I got it for the cost of moving it. I jacked up the building off the slab, backed a car trailer into it, (and here's the part relevant to your job), face nailed a ledger to the studs. I reinforced the ledger with hurricane ties at the top, then laid rafters across the span and over the trailer bed.those were secured to the ledger with upside down joist hangars. that allowed the weight to be borne by the inside "rafters" on the trailer.
In your case, the ledger would be along the sole plate and tied to prevent the walls from spreading as you winch and tug the building.

(Message edited by mnscrounger on December 22, 2020)
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 - 03:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All my friends aren't that strong and their backs hurt.

(Message edited by ourdee on December 23, 2020)
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Griffmeister
Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like a Monty Python skit.
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd Invite These Men Over !!!!!! Hold A Party?







(Message edited by ebutch on December 23, 2020)
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2020 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OldDog, Sorry, I haven't been back down there to get a pic of the shed. It is most the way onto the slab and only needs moved about a foot sideways, dragging the runners sideways instead of long ways. I may have figured out how I am moving it.

I picked up a larger lower floor jack for $20 on market place.



It is lower with the cup removed.



If need be, I can lower it another 1/2" by removing wheels.



In fig.1 I have 3.5" between the shed underside and the concrete slab.
In fig.2 is my plan to jack it up and place a pipe or plank at an angle then lower the shed so that it takes a step sideways.


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Xbduck
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2020 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This might be old fashioned however how about 2X4's and hammer in wedges to lift it up to get more wood under it?? This way you can crib it up to the height you need. It's a slow process however it is less expensive.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2020 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I only need enough height to move it sideways. On the slab is the finished height. 2 of the 3 runners are already on the slab.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2020 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got-r-dun!
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2020 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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86129squids
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2020 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dayum! Yer smaerter than you look.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2020 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That ain't hard.
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