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     Tootal |
If anybody's been reading the BITA 10 thread you will know in my attempt to join the crew there my Harley Road Glide decided not to allow me to go. I had recently done a carburetor to fuel injection conversion using a Thundermax ecm. This has worked out really well. Then I started loosing a cylinder which ended up being the coil. So I bought a new coil and problem solved. I was ready for a nice trip to North Carolina! I stopped for lunch in Mt. Vernon Illinois and was accelerating into traffic when I felt 2 jerks like I had missed a spark. This was a little unsettling since I had a new coil yet I kept going. Everything seemed fine as I was cruising though Indiana until I hit a construction zone. As I slowed to the double nickel I downshifted into fifth. Well, I tried anyway! No go. I figured I had some linkage loosen up so at the next exit I pulled off into a gas station and checked it out. Nope, all linkage was good, it just wouldn't shift out of sixth. I tried to pull the top cover off but the starter is in the way. I put the screws back in and called my brother and let him know the situation. I decided if I could get it back to the highway I could get as far back home as possible so he wouldn't have to drive so far. In the end I was able to get it all the way home including a gas stop. Let's not talk about my clutch! So my hopes were a spring was broke but after removing the top lid I don't see anything wrong, it just won't move the gear. the shift fork is moving a little but not the gear. It's like it's welded into position. So it's time to disassemble. Fortunately that is fairly easy since the transmission is a separate entity from the engine and has a trap door. But still, I have to remove the primary, starter and exhaust to work on it. What the heck, I probably ought to put a new belt on it while it's all tore apart! For the record, this is not a Harley transmission, it's a Baker DD6 speed conversion. I've ran it for several years now and it's been great, till now! I decided to start my own thread instead of hijacking Hugh's. If anybody's interested I'll show you what I figure out. If anybody has any suggestions I'm all ears!  | ||
| Crusty |
I strongly recommend putting a new belt on while you have the Primary off. That is, unless you like pulling the clutch, starter and inner primary. Keep us informed as to what you find in the tranny- Please! Do you think you'll have it fixed in time for the WVBR? (Message edited by Crusty on July 23, 2020) | ||
| Hughlysses |
Your Uly probably sabotaged it.  | ||
| Ourdee |
For consideration on future forays in the Hoosier land. My trailer and I are available if needed. I'm located on the S.W. edge of Indianapolis. I want to know what you find in the tranny. | ||
| Tootal |
It was getting too warm in the garage so I opted for wings and a beer for ten bucks! I'll dive back onto it tomorrow. Don't worry oh Crustified One, A new belt is in order. Although Harley belts last a helluva lot longer than Buell belts! One of the few things that are better! | ||
| Pwnzor |
Super glue to the rescue! Pics required. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Be sure to replace the shifter shaft seal(say that fast...). Z | ||
| Tootal |
That shaft seal has been on my table for a couple of months. It's been leaking for a while but just a couple of drops hit the floor when parked. Not enough to tear the whole primary off to fix it. Now it is going in. At 110,000 miles I'm going to just "restore" the drive from the crank back to the rear sprocket. Even the sprocket is getting pretty worn! I was hoping to do this during the coming Winter but my plan has been altered! | ||
| Tootal |
I just went out and took a screw driver and pried on the shift fork near the gear and it popped loose! I didn't have to pry that hard but having a direct force on it was a lot more than what the shift drum was giving it. I still need to see why it stuck, hopefully I can just clean something up with a stone and put it back together. Time will tell. Here's a picture of the gears. The offending gear is connected to the shift fork at the top of the picture. BTW, I found I could remove the two screws on the starter and pull it out far enough to disconnect from the dowel pin and rotate it. This allowed me to remove the top cap, although just barely.  (Message edited by tootal on July 24, 2020) | ||
| Ratbuell |
That's lookin' pretty milky, there... I'd hit everything with an emory cloth. Or, do what I did when I had gear-lock in my S1W years ago. Take the internals to a machine shop and get them all micro-polished. My S1W shifts like a UJM since I did that! | ||
| Tootal |
I understand your concern, it does look milky but actually, that's Red Line Shockproof gear oil. It's pink and milky looking when it's new! This stuff is really slick too. My old Harley shifted smoother at 156,000 miles than this Baker does. I always used the Red Line gear lube in it also. Good idea to polish things while I'm in there though. I mean it makes all my triggers slick! | ||
| Ourdee |
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| Tootal |
Well the weekend was relaxing and I stayed away from the bike. Just too hot in the garage. Today we got some rain and a cool front moved in so between dishes, laundry and cooking I was able to remove the left floor board and shifter, primary cover and the clutch and crank sprocket. I did take one picture before the battery died on the camera. It shows the tool needed to break the nut loose on the drive shaft. High torque and red loctite, just like the Buell! A 3/4" breaker bar and a two foot pipe took care of it though!  | ||
| Hughlysses |
Making progress.  | ||
| Tootal |
So while the battery was charging I went ahead and pulled the clutch and compensator nut off and set them to the side:  Here's the nekid inner primary with the stator on the left:  Once I remove this screw on the starter gear I can remove the starter and start removing the inner primary:  Tomorrow's a busy day so I won't get back to the bike till Wednesday. If you see something strange or have any questions, let me know. | ||
| Ourdee |
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| Tootal |
This morning I went to the garage with my coffee and pulled off the inner primary. It's only 5 bolts so it comes off fairly easily. The problem is when you put it together, blue silicone is your friend. You have to be sure it's sealed. At this point I will remove the swingarm side support and pull off the belt. Here's what it looks like with the inner primary off. So next time you have to change your belt on your Buell be thankful you don't have to do all of this just to get to the belt!!  You can see where the trans fluid has been leaking from the shift shaft seal in the middle of the picture. Once again, in order to change this seal you have to take all of this apart. | ||
| Ourdee |
Is this the first time you have had this one apart? | ||
| Tootal |
No, I've changed the belt one time. I installed a Compufire stator once. Then I had my buddy at Duckworth Racing Engines install the Baker six speed. He was the last one to work in this area other than me changing the starter and I didn't have to pull the inner primary to do that. He's the only guy I would let work on it, he's installed several Baker transmissions and I didn't have the time so I just let him do it. He also did all the boring, honing and headwork on the engine. | ||
| Buellish |
It's good to have a guy you can trust.With me that guy was Terry Rigsby at Tallahassee Motorcycle Works,RIP. Both he and the shop are gone now,he is very much missed. | ||
| Ourdee |
No ulterior motive for the question. I just wondered. How many miles on it's clock? | ||
| Tootal |
Sorry to hear your trustworthy friend has passed. Duckworth is around 75 now. He is in great shape but admits he's getting tired. He's been building Pro-Stock engines since the 60's. He builds anything really, street rods to Jeeps! Lots of Harley's too. RD, the old Geezer Glide's got 110,000 on her. The engine and trans have significantly less. It's 95" engine makes over 100 lbs/ft of torque. If there's traction she will pull a wheelie!  | ||
| Pwnzor |
Finally, some decent moto-porn. | ||
| Greg_e |
Are you going to mess with any other seals while you have it torn apart? I really need to do the output shaft seal on my 05, just can't find the motivation. | ||
| Thumper74 |
I recognize that socket! | ||
| Bartimus |
Same seal went on my FXDX a few years back. A $12 seal that takes about 5.5 hours to replace. I remember Hardley wanted something like $680 to change out that seal. No thanks! Bought the seal, and replaced it myself just like you are. | ||
| Tootal |
Yes, I will be changing all the seals that I can get to. Like I said, I'm going to restore everything from the crank back. Thumper, you mean this socket?  I got the right side floor boards off and the exhaust pulled away, I didn't feel like taking the O2 sensors out unless I have to so I'm just going to let it hang for now.  | ||
| Big_island_rider |
That is a funny looking red and blue foot peg.  | ||
| Buellish |
The rare Craftsman Mid Peg Kit.May also be used in the highway peg position with the optional worm gear clamp (4 required). | ||
| Crusty |
Hey, man; I've done that! |
