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Zacks
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Having worked with millwright and electrical crews, if they are independant (out of the hall) and travel, they are responsible for the income earned in whatever state it was earned.
If they are employees of the company, they pay based on the home state.

I had a friend who worked for an MLB team. Tax time was a nightmare filing all the 1099s, calculating the time with the big team and that compensation vs if they were sent down to the minors etc.
Every state wants 'their' money - count on it.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not the tax code.

He had VOLUNTEERS come to help his state.

He is now trying to TAX those volunteers, even though they are not residents of his state.

When power line workers had to go down south to help after storms, none of them were taxed by the localities they helped.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perhaps because those states’ tax codes aren’t the same as NY’s tax code?
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If they were truly volunteers, they were not paid. No income, no income tax. If they were paid, they were not volunteers, and their income may be subject to the law of the state in which they performed the work. NY has f’d up tax laws. CA does too. If, as a service member, you retire from active duty while in CA, CA taxes your retirement, all of it, even if you only spent a short period of time there. It was quite common to transfer out of state temporarily as your retirement date approached.

Point is, the law is the law, likely has been for a long time, and it makes little sense to blame the current governor.
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H0gwash
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If those volunteers were not afraid of death, they were not afraid of the tax consequences.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Communist Chinese scientist obeys Party and criticizes America.

https://www.breitbart.com/education/2020/05/07/yal e-scientist-reopening-america-is-awfully-close-to- genocide/


New York taxes anyone who visits and earns a penny. Rush Limbaugh sold his uber-apartment that he only visited on vacation, because he got audited every year he owned it, and had to prove he hadn't made any money while in town. Every year.

Tax code, presumes guilt. If you don't actively fight against a decree that you owe them money, they will take it from you, at gunpoint if need be. And you must actively fight on precise time schedule, with the precise right form, in the precise right wording, or they ignore/reject any efforts to deny them your money.

That's why tax lawyers are needed. The tax code is so complex and contradictory, that Everyone is Guilty. Period.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I happen to know that NYC offered big money to nurses to volunteer to work in the extreme risk environments of the Cuomo & Deblasio hospital system. Actively recruited extra help. Also free lodging, not the nicest hotels turned state hostel, and potential germ havens, but a serious economic saving over insanely expensive and unavailable hotel rooms.

Of course they get super taxed. This happens every time they import nurses to strike break, which is often. ( never see on the national news, must not criticize the City Rulers! Bad for tourists if the strikes are news. ) Getting taxed big is only a surprise the first time, and if you don't ask anyone before. It's SOP.

And don't expect much sympathy from local nurses who are striking. Or today, local nurses who are laid off because the hospital isn't doing treatment in fields they are trained for and chose to work in. They are zero income.

Not everyone is willing to work in pandemic concentration wards, they may have at risk family. Not everyone is suited to work that kind of high pressure work, where the demand is so high and patients can go from bad to dying so quickly as with the respiratory infection plagues out of mostly, but certainly annually from China.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I seem to recall the $5,000 (or whatever it was) a day chatter too . . .

They should also know they will likely be taxed on the fair market value (think $2,500/mo for a 600 sf studio apt) of that free housing “gift”
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Strokizator
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My stepdaughter, who's an ICU nurse at two Seattle area hospitals was talking about going to NYC (or it could have been NJ) a few weeks back and $4500/wk + R&B was the number she mentioned. Someone she knew who had already gone told her not to go, saying the place was bad (as in catastrophic).

Instead, she's working a 3 day, 12 hrs/day shift at each hospital. Beyond being worked to death, she seems calmer in recent days. Either things are quieting down or she's numb to the morbidity. I'm getting this second hand from her mom.
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86129squids
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

John- God bless your stepdaughter. Let's ALL bless her and the rest of our front line in this situation.

We were called in for an all-staff meeting at Fleming's yesterday, didn't get the notice until yesterday morning- usually an all-staff meeting notice goes out at least a week or two prior to the date. Showed up with my own mask, sanitizer wipey in pocket. Digital temped by a manager as I arrived, then given gloves, luckily big enough for my mitts.

It was surreal.

We spent over 2 hours going over the new procedures for fine dining table service in this new world order. What I do in the course of my work, my table service, is gonna be damn near impossible. Heck, if I have to adjust my frickin' glasses on my face I have to wash my hands. Just having to wear a mask, even my own, is damn near suffocating me. Throws me back to my asthma days, the first half of my life.

It's blatantly obvious that we're just guinea pigs. Atlanta opened first, then Tampa, today us along with 19 other Fleming's locations. Given my age and medical issues, I told my boss EARLY on that I want to be left out until absolutely needed.

Spoke with a dear, dear friend up in Wisconsin who lived here in Mur-vil TN until she found out she had COPD and other medical issues, she decided to move back where she was raised. She had gotten the COVID19 bug. Fought pneumonia, eventually got out of it. She said it was pretty hellish. She's a retired Marine, it'll be hard to kill her no matter what.

I ride motorcycles, sometimes like a bat outta Hell. (Pun intended.) Something's gonna kill me eventually, it's a miracle I sit here and type all this out. What I worry about for myself, my loved ones, and all youn's BW fandamily, is not just the virus, but sheer human stupidity. If we don't take this shit seriously, it's FUBAR time.

YMMV. God bless youn's all, hope all is well. Been a beautiful day, got a decent ride in, Mama's home with Asian takeout, life is good. Even got some Benton's goodness and fresh strawberries on the ride.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://9gag.com/gag/azmbQ9q

explaining the pandemic to your past self....
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Blake
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2020 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patrick,

Thanks for sharing that USA Today article. It's so frustrating that the only way such news gets out is through opinion columns. The people who are supposed to be reporting and breaking the facts are oblivious. Journalism is apparently populated mostly by propagandists and incompetent lazy people.

In case others missed it:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/05/06/ coronavirus-density-mass-transit-bureacracy-censor ship-column/3075550001/
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2020 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11568244/uk-coronavi rus-lockdown-futile-hasnt-saved-lives/

I may have to disagree with this one, the spin is mighty.

But the extreme authoritarian jerk stuff from The UK like drone hunting joggers in the middle of forest trails, and informant programs to denounce that neighbor you hate, point toward the logical end game where it's acceptable to execute enemies of the People for questioning their Masters.
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2020 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This could go in several threads.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-upda tes/2020/05/09/853313775/elon-musk-says-tesla-suin g-california-county-moving-headquarters-out-of-sta te

Word on the street is that they will build the first 1 terawatt battery plant, or terafactory, in Texas.
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2020 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Elon, We have room for you in Indy.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/05/10/cotton- publicly-available-cell-phone-data-suggests-roads- around-wuhan-lab-were-closed-in-mid-october/
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We need a permanent travel ban on China. Period. Send their students back home, close the gate, and never open it again.

The rest of the world needs to follow suit.

No people. No goods. No nothing out of China.
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Court
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fully aware of the pitfalls of total isolationism . . . . But, I think a strong case can be made for severely curtailing goods from China.

Lessons have certainly been learned as a result of recent events. I’d prefer to never have to beg to get products from 3M, an American company, again.

I purchased 4 guitars last week and if I can find such high quality MADE IN USA guitars . . . Why can’t I buy a 21 mm combination wrench or hand sanitizer.

We should have learned a lesson about ceding control.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We should have learned a lesson about ceding control.

That requires two things, neither of them likely.

1) paying attention

2) no bribery from China to our elected officials.
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Court
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well stated
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe the biggest danger of Pooh's Breath is fear mongering. The fear is placed on an alter and people bow down to worship their new false god. It is time to get back to work and excercise the new antichrist.


Horowitz: Simple arithmetic demonstrates that the epidemic, outside nursing homes, is essentially over

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-s imple-arithmetic-demonstrates-epidemic-outside-nur sing-homes-essentially/



Pennsylvania reports: average coronavirus death age 79; 67% happened in nursing homes

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronaviru s/pennsylvania-covid-19-deaths-average-79-and-67-o ccurred-nursing-homes



COVID doctors challenge CDC's rules on cause of death, concerned about inflated numbers

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronaviru s/doctors-and-clinical-researchers-challenge-uns-w ho-cdc-and-dr-faucis
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H0gwash
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think many of us buy based on purchase price alone, or purchase price first and reliability a close second. I think American manufacturers get stuck with choosing whether to manufacture such products overseas or don't manufacture at all.
I tend to buy locally because I don't have the patience to wait for customs. But even then, it is easy for Chinese manufacturers to have a US warehouse so items appear locally.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It’s going to take a change in mindset.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Working in Sales for 15 years, I can wholeheartedly agree that more than 98% of consumers buy based on price alone.

"VALUE" has precisely zero meaning to the majority of buyers.

Me, I prefer to buy it once and have it last, rather than save eight dollars and have to replace it again in a year or two.

Yes, it will take a change in mindset.

Without the bribes I mentioned above, we'd be able to enact enough tariffs to keep their crap out of our market anyway, or at least price it high enough to encourage buying American....but I don't see that happening any time soon.
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Blake
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I routinely pay more for non-CCP goods. I once went to three different auto stores and paid double for a trailer hitch ball that wasn't "made in China"; it was made in Taiwan. Totally cool by me. If stuff made in Hong Kong was still labeled as such, I'd still be okay with that too. Just no CCP stuff if I can help it.

If anyone knows of a good Li-Fe portable battery booster that's not CCP in origin, please let me know.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Back on topic...

So now the data has been tampered with so much that I don't trust it anymore. NY adds 720 deaths out of thin air on May 6th; PA is adding and subtracting all over the place; there are three different datasets for Sweden; the dataset for the EEA is nowhere to be found, only just the current day's stats. Looking at their individual national data is less than confidence inspiring.

So here's an attempt to at least smooth out the daily shenanigans, the same daily deaths per million plot, but in 7-day moving average format.

And I substituted the State of Indiana in place of Korea, cause Korea is a zero deaths per day and uninteresting, plus our old friend Carlos is tracking what's happening in Indiana, so I thought he'd appreciate it.


CCP-Virus Daily Death Tolls per Capita, 7-Day Moving Average, The CCP MUST Pay!


Sweden got it right.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake, NOCO is designed in America. Manufactured in Hong Kong. I own 2 NOCO GB40 jump starters. I used them in the wrecker truck to jump dead cars with great success. I started an RV travel bus that had not been started in a year with three of them in parallel. Small enough I often carry one on long trips on Lil Red. https://no.co/about-us
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 04:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the connector for the cables an industry standard or is it a NOCO special?
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Two_seasons
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ourdee, you are a wealth of information.

Thanks to Blake for asking and Ourdee coming through again.

Have a good day guys.

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