| Author | Message | ||
     Whisperstealth |
RD, You Sir, Win this thread for today!  | ||
| Blake |
It's a cool looking bike. Doubt I could tolerate such a seat, being unable to move around front to back really sucks. Found that out the hard way after building the racing seat for the Cyclone. Put the number displaying hump too far forward for hunker down go-fast mode. TP has a unique sense of humor is what I'm thinking, but I'm trying to always think best of folks. He's not flaming anyone, and makes me laugh, so... | ||
| Ourdee |
I figured he could handle it.  | ||
| Blake |
So apparently the virus is really pissed! https://nypost.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-traces-f ound-in-massachusetts-wastewater/ | ||
| Ratbuell |
Oh look...more cases than anyone suspected.... | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/sin gapores-second-wave.php My Cyclone Low stock seat is bad enough at crushing the testicles! That's why I run the regular stock/custom color seat. That seat pictured above looks like it would be fine If you weighed half my considerable bulk. Or were 2 dimensional. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/the -ferguson-effect.php To be fair, any legit scientist will give you a range from optimism to doom. Other spin is dishonest. If, after following the scientist's advice, the numbers come out on the low, optimistic side, he might have given very good advice. ( or been an alarmist loon. It can be hard to tell ) In contrast, politicians who did the Jaws We Need The Tourists head in the sand ignoring the looming crisis, and calling for everyone to attend the money making party, did as we expect them to act. Short sighted and ignorant. That they belong as low level DMV paper pushers instead of Fire Chiefs or Mayors has been a human problem since we invented roofs. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/nor way-and-sweden-conduct-an-experiment.php It would be unethical to deliberately do such an experiment in your country. But why not learn from the differences and results? Ditto our states who are proving to have varying needs and taking different tactical action. | ||
| Hughlysses |
So apparently the virus is really pissed! https://nypost.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-traces-f ound-in-massachusetts-wastewater/ I’ve read a couple of reports that it’s actually in feces. What’s really scary is it’s also been suggested that the virus can be transmitted by “aerosolized” fecal material.  so if you’re in a public restroom, and an infected guy 2 stalls over has diarrhea, you could catch it from him.  | ||
| Court |
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| Ratbuell |
If fecal matter can spread it, places like SF and LA need to be uber-careful with the homeless populations...it sounds like Cali is doing OK with this thing, but still...something to be aware of. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Here's some perspective: https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus -response-sweden-avoids-isolation-economic-ruin/?f bclid=IwAR0DRrJD2aeZ0pa0hJX1X80ObAPBSMx329uz5z6VGg y_iN3CbKIa6iKvNr4 Sweden is developing herd immunity by refusing to panic. By not requiring social isolation, Sweden’s young people spread the virus, mostly asymptomatically, as is supposed to happen in a normal flu season. They will generate protective antibodies that make it harder and harder for the Wuhan virus to reach and infect the frail and elderly who have serious underlying conditions. For perspective, the current COVID-19 death rate in Sweden (40 deaths per million of population) is substantially lower than the Swedish death rate in a normal flu season (in 2018, for instance, about 80 per million of population). Nature’s got this one, folks. We’ve been coping with new viruses for untold generations. The best way is to allow the young and healthy — those for whom the virus is rarely fatal — to develop antibodies and herd immunity to protect the frail and sick. As time passes, it will become clearer that social-isolation measures like those in Switzerland and Norway accomplish very little in terms of reducing fatalities or disease, though they crater local and national economies — increasing misery, pain, death, and disease from other causes as people’s lives are upended and futures are destroyed. | ||
| Tpehak |
New York City digs mass graves | ||
| Gregtonn |
So it all goes back to this: "The more you know the more you know that there is more that you don't know."_Greg Tonn | ||
| Gregtonn |
As to New York digging mass graves in potters field on Hart island; Hart Island's potters field has existed for more than 100 years. There are already more than 1,000,000 bodies buried there. CBS should be ashamed of them selves. G | ||
| Sifo |
And that deaths per million number is already hopelessly out of date. As of the moment it's already passes their "normal flu season" 80 per mm and is at 86 per mm. What's more is that they were late to the infections. They didn't have their first infection until 2/15/20. They didn't go past 100 cases until 3/6/20. They now add 100 cases in a few hours. They are also adding about 100 deaths per day, but that stat is changing exponentially, so probably also very dated. Beyond that, it's not like if you aren't killed by this you recover just fine all the time. They were finding young people who had serious and permanent lung damage as soon as they showed any symptoms. They are likely to be dealing with the effects of this decision for decades to come. I'm also curious how you protect the elderly and other at risk population, while encouraging the young to get infected. It's almost like saying the elderly don't have value. It's much like when they were encouraging people in NYC to go out and celebrate the Chinese new year. It kind of went bad pretty quickly. That article mentioned having only 401 deaths in Sweden IIRC. They currently are at 870. They are very early in the exponential curve and the stats they brag about are already very out of date. I understand the economic arguments being made. The reality of the decisions is harsh. I've really tried to stay away from the economics of this though. You are literally putting a price on peoples lives. I'm glad I'm not the one having to make those decisions. I'm also cringing with every wave of aid/stimulus being pushed out by the US. So apparently the virus is really pissed! https://nypost.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-traces-f ound-in-massachusetts-wastewater/ Blake, do you consider this to be science? They are using proxy data to estimate the number of infected. Not long ago you specifically said that was not science.  | ||
| Ratbuell |
They should also be ashamed because this whole COVID thing isn't about total deaths (especially now that we're getting more data, and the death rate keeps dropping)...it's about SPEED. Hence "flatten the curve" - that's not to keep people from catching it, but to keep everyone from catching it NOW, allowing hospitals and emergency services to keep up. | ||
| Court |
Greg: Thank you for beating me to the punch. Those graves. . . . That long trench you see in the “shocking drone videos” has been there for years and inmates may be seen burying homeless and indigent daily. The instant situation is not pleasant but the media has far overblown the “disaster” scenario. | ||
| Sami |
The conspiracy linking 5G to coronavirus just will not die https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/08/tech/5g-coronav irus-conspiracy-theory-trnd/index.html At least 20 UK phone masts vandalised over false 5G coronavirus claims https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/06 /at-least-20-uk-phone-masts-vandalised-over-false- 5g-coronavirus-claims | ||
| Ourdee |
Roseland Hospital phlebotomist: 30% of those tested have coronavirus antibody BUSINESS https://chicagocitywire.com/stories/530092711-rose land-hospital-phlebotomist-30-of-those-tested-have -coronavirus-antibody | ||
| Tpehak |
Imagine you can control coronavirus infected people through 5G and WiFi networks. | ||
| Blake |
Tom, Proxies are not science unless scientifically validated as such, including error and uncertainty. But my post was in jest. Not about any "science." Here's some actual science indicating a higher proportion of infected than some might have thought... https://spectator.us/covid-antibody-test-german-to wn-shows-15-percent-infection-rate/ | ||
| Sifo |
om, Proxies are not science unless scientifically validated as such, including error and uncertainty. But my post was in jest. Not about any "science." Here's some actual science indicating a higher proportion of infected than some might have thought... https://spectator.us/covid-antibody-test-german-to wn-shows-15-percent-infection-rate/ I saw that article earlier today. Interesting, but keep in mind, despite claiming to be a random study, it's still centered in the hot spot of Germany. It may very well turn out to be grossly over estimating the actual number infected around the world. In fact, it would be reasonable to expect that. So you are taking a "random" sampling from the hot spot from one of the hot spot countries of the world. That article also left me unsure about the ratio of confirmed cases to previously unknown cases. Still, accepting this as representative of the rest of the world (dubious at best), that leaves us a long way from developing herd immunity. That leaves with the likelihood of either a spike again when we start relaxing the social measures, or a spike next flu season if it turns out to be seasonal. Let's hope it's seasonal and we have a vaccine by then. Neither is a given at this point. | ||
| Gregtonn |
That article also left me unsure about the ratio of confirmed cases to previously unknown cases. As should every article that doesn't include 100% testing of the entire population. Without that all you have is a WAG. G | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/u seful_vs_useless_covid19_models_a_response_to_the_ armchair_analysts.html | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/the -pandemic-where-we-stand-now.php | ||
| Crusty |
Today's perfectly sensible graph of all the factors concerning the Wuhan Virus: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BeautifulImperturbableBe rgerpicard-size_restricted.gif | ||
| Hughlysses |
Today's perfectly sensible graph of all the factors concerning the Wuhan Virus:  | ||
| 86129squids |
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| Ducbsa |
On a mostly UK visited vintage MC forum I read, most of the Brits that weigh in are in the camp that says riding is irresponsible because if you have an accident, you'll unnecessarily take up an ER space. My feeling is that I have been carefully/defensively riding for 50 years to avoid pain from errors and that is a bigger motivation than keeping ER spaces available. I have been in the ER twice, but they were 30+ years apart. I don't see how a ride would be more prone to CCP virus spread than a stroll in the neighborhood. Any thoughts? | ||
| Ducbsa |
https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2020/04/11/c oronavirus-and-the-tradeoff-between-big-government -and-competent-government/ | ||
| Ducbsa |
https://9gag.com/gag/ad5Ej6d |
