How to register the dissonance in the claim that Trump is Putin’s tool when he provided to Ukraine lethal aid that Obama refused to provide for fear of upsetting Putin?
Thank you for taking the time to contact me regarding impeachment proceedings. I always appreciate the opportunity to hear from my fellow Georgians.
On September 24, 2019, Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced that the House of Representatives would begin a formal impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump. According to Article II of the U.S. Constitution, a President may be impeached if a majority of the House votes to impeach him and two-thirds of the Senate votes to convict him and remove him from office. Although the House officially impeached President Trump on December 18, 2019, his trial in the Senate is still ongoing.
So far, I have seen nothing that rises to the level of conviction and removal from office. I look forward to completing this process in a fair and open manner, unlike the one that took place in the House. Impeachment has always been a last resort in our Constitutional history, and Democrats are using this inquiry to distract from our work and obstruct the President’s agenda.
We need to be focused on pursuing legitimate solutions to the problems facing our country like funding the government on time, solving our debt crisis, fixing our immigration system, and coming together on common sense school safety legislation. None of this can get done while the Senate is consumed with this impeachment trial. Once the trial concludes, I look forward to working closely with my Senate colleagues to pass meaningful legislation that will solve the problems that brought me to Washington in the first place.
Again, thank you for taking the time to contact me with your concerns. Your thoughts are important to me, and I will keep them in mind moving forward.
It turns out, however, that millions of us who held our noses and voted for Trump have been quite pleasantly surprised by his ardent support of the values and policies that we hold dear.
I was certainly in that camp. FB1 worked hard to convert folks like me around here. I was lucky enough to get a surprise chance to share a breakfast with FB1 one morning and have some face to face discussion. One thing was certain though. I was not voting for Hillary. The only real question was how long I had to hold my nose while voting for Trump. I think that this year, I can safely predict, I won't have to hold my nose at all. That's a far cry from saying I have no misgivings about Trump. I certainly do. There's no doubt though, than on pretty much every single issue that I care about, Trump is the choice.
Is he ordained by God? I really have no clue about that. Given the times and alternative choices, I can see where some might think so. Personally, I try to not speak for God on such matters.
Nope. That religious and legal bull has not applied to our system since we Declared Independence from the English Monarchy, who's shtick/propaganda/justification for Absolute Power, was that God endorsed the King.
Power in this country comes from the People.
He, Trump, may be ordained in some church, and that church may decree it's ordained members are ordained not just by the HR department, but also a Supreme being.
But I haven't heard about that, you'd think it would be a big talking point.
I'd think the Dems would make a real deal out of a preacher running for office, and get traction. Not just because the Dems boo God. Most Americans would be suspicious of a Priest in political power.
Even JFK was attacked because he was Catholic, and folk said he'd Obey the Pope, and not his oath. More recent Republicans with lay preacher experience were criticized for being to holy roller, and today just admitting you're a Christian is a disqualifying factor for atheist Lefty folk.
It's almost a pity I would never run. With the guff they gave Marianne Wiliamson for being a New Age Hippie Spirit, could you imagine ME? "What will your policy be on State supported terrorism?" "Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius."
I think you may have missed a fine point. “Ordained” in the article doesn’t refer to a church, but to God. The example being the non believer king ordained by God to lead the Jews to freedom. The not-necessarily-christian-behaving man, (though that’s debatable - we’re all sinners) Trump, is thought to be ordained by God, in a similar manner, to lead America out of the wilderness.
When the Constitution was being debated they were getting nowhere. They finally called upon George Washington to help guide them. The first thing George did was to start the debates with prayer. Then, I believe, God stepped in and helped guide them to what they ended up with. God can use anybody to do the right thing if enough folks ask him to do so!
Nope, not missing a fine point. Rejecting easily mocked thinking.
Sure, feel free to pray for Divine guidance for our Public Servants, especially the beleaguered Donald. Hope like Hell itself is the fate of our Nation that he is aided in our time of trial. Because it is.
But if you want to be made fun of, and have your wisdom rejected out of hand as the blathering of a lunatic, Then speak of some politician ( no less! ) being Ordained By God.
First, because one Party leadership, in large part, denies the existence of a supreme being as anathema, unwanted competition to the Holy State. Unwanted restrictions on their personal power & pleasure.
Second, while the concept of separation of church and state is oft abused by libertines and the most foul, We do not recognize the endorsement of a captive Priesthood as to the fitness of Our King in the Eyes of God. ( like England )
Third, it makes a lot of people uncomfortable to hear "Ordained by God". It might be indoctrination, unease at appearing to be a hick, lack of original thinking, or cold hearted public relations sense. Whatever.
I didn't hold my nose when I voted for Trump. But I wasn't enthusiastic, either. Lesser of evils, true, but that's not happy making.
As my buddy reminds me, I shouldn't complain, as my stated wish was "anything but Clinton". I didn't even care if it was a recognized life form. Virus or robot was a better choice, in my view.
Nope, not missing a fine point. Rejecting easily mocked thinking.
Pretty much my reasoning. While I do accept that a leader could be ordained by God, I personally have no way of knowing if or when this may be the case. I don't think, even the most devout religious leaders can know this any better than I can. It's also easily (and probably correctly) dismissed by any naysayers, so what's the point? It sure does seem like Trump is the right leader for tough times. Same for Reagan, Lincoln, Washington, etc. Who can say which, if any have been ordained by God? It's possible that sometimes the masses may just do the right thing. Even a blind squirrel...
Yeah, you missed the point. The author believes God ordained Trump to lead America and that sometimes he chooses non believers to do his good work. He made no assertion that Trump rules by divine right.
Did you read the article? It was a possible explanation for why an adulterer would enjoy such support from evangelical Christians. It’s their belief, not objective reality, that was the thrust of his writing. Mocking the theory doesn’t alter it, since your mockery doesn’t disprove that they believe it.
I just assumed evangelical Christians are at least as rational as anyone when it comes time to chose between adulterers.
That was 2016, in 2020 everybody gets to choose between whatever. Sin free ain't available.
I'm not going to speculate on who in the primary committed adultery. Smoked crack. Stole more money than you make in a lifetime. Or... Actually, I would make wild accusations on that last one.
Don't misunderstand, adultery is a good character tell. Break one oath, won't they break others?
There are lots of single issue voters. Others weigh multiple factors.
But, yeah, if the point is people rationalize like crazy? Uh huh.
FB1 worked hard to convert folks like me around here. I was lucky enough to get a surprise chance to share a breakfast with FB1 one morning and have some face to face discussion.
If easily mocked thinking is a standard for rejecting ideas, my goodness, really?
Consider that Obama was as ordained by God as Trump, as is every such leader. It's interesting to consider that absent Obama, Trump might likely not have become President.
FYI:
Romans 13:1-14 (English Standard Version aka ESV):
quote:
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ...
Context is vital to understanding. Paul was writing to Christians in Rome, circa 55 a.d., and he was under arrest by Roman authorities. Some folks may well have suggested organizing a jail break.
Hoot, I'm not "mocking the theory". I'm saying it is mocked. Will be mocked. Will trigger unbelievers. Scare the fearful. Be used as propaganda by atheists. Is bad public relations. Is impossible to prove.
And it's rationalizing, sugar coating, dipping the turd in chocolate, trying to justify...
Lying to themselves to try and feel better about making a cold choice for the not as bad.
Reality shows it was a better choice. For every annoying ego driven twit that deflates the illusion of Presidential "class", we have the former opponent blaming everyone else for her defeat. Pathological mentally ill. Zero self criticisms.
And as we see from the investigation into criminal abuse of the Justice system, many of the criminals counted on her being in charge to avoid well deserved prison terms. And we haven't even officially opened the can on the actual billion$ in corruption of the Clinton & Biden Crime families, much less Obama.
Barry Ordained by God? Ha! Nope. He WAS a god to them. That's an unsubtle difference.
If there was any Divine guidance in that administration it was inspired by Sharia or Marx. Neither is considered Divine by me, in fact, Satanic is appropriate.
( but as my own argument says, saying Marxism is Satanic is a good way to lose the appearance of rationality fight. Even when Marx discusses wanting to Be Lucifer. This aspect of truth doesn't sell well. Rules for Radicals is DEDICATED TO LUCIFER. That's their bible. Hillary's senior thesis. And it's still not a good way to show they're fracking evil. It's not good because of a century of atheist propaganda mocking any Other Faithful, yes. But that's the audience we've got. )
I (understanding that God places leaders over us) have had the impression that a nations leadership is a snapshot of those being lead. I try to keep this thought when looking at Presidents. What kept me in line during Obama was my respect for the office of President Of The United States. I keep that in mind with #45. I like his work ethic. I dislike how he comes off at times. And I praise his use of language to accentuate the positive potential of people and situations. He is a Really Great President and allows America to be a Great Nation with a Great People.
(I know God put my bosses over me. I had over 20 bosses at one time. He must have had quite the chuckle over my playing them off on each other to effect the best outcome for my customers and process changes to keep the effects in existence into the future as I retired. All nothing more than what I gleaned from those placed over me.)
Why is Roberts filtering questions? Does Roberts know who the whistleblower is? If not, how can he block a question because it contains a name? Would he block any name since anyone could be the whistleblower? The real question is, why is he protecting the identity of the whistleblower? He knows damn well there is no protection in the law for identity, only employment retribution. So WTF? The senate needs to take control of this fiasco.