| Author | Message | ||
     Blake |
Just a yes or no answer please. No explanations yet please. Will follow up later. Do you see yourself as a good person? | ||
| Patches |
no | ||
| Blake |
No | ||
| H0gwash |
yes | ||
| Ourdee |
No | ||
| Crusty |
Yes and No. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I'm a bad person who does some good things. Until we define "good", I can't give a more precise answer. | ||
| Hootowl |
Yes | ||
| Brentx1 |
Yes | ||
| Sami |
Short answer: No. Long answer: Dang, no explanation allowed yet. | ||
| Ourdee |
Are we going to Pro 16:2? | ||
| Hootowl |
If we’re playing trick question, I’m done here. | ||
| 86129squids |
I try to maintain myself, and set an example, as a very good quality person. Sometimes I fall short. Sometimes I exceed my own expectations. I work the average. I depend on my peers for opinion. God alone will judge me. | ||
| Ourdee |
What kind of trick question are you thinking Jeff? | ||
| 86129squids |
DERP. | ||
| Hootowl |
The two people who appear to be in the know about the details of the question have both professed to not being good people. One of them is Blake, whom I happen to know is not not a good person. So I question the question. | ||
| Ourdee |
Who is the other person? | ||
| Crusty |
Who or what is DERP? | ||
| Hootowl |
Our new friend, Sami. Just a hunch.  | ||
| Hootowl |
The other person. Not derp. I am similarly unaware of who derp might be. I suspect that it’s just an expression, similar to ‘duh’. | ||
| Blake |
It's not a trick question. It's a conversation starter. Thanks to all participating. It's a good thing. Of course the answer may depend on what standard of good one uses by which to judge oneself. If you see yourself as a good person, what standard of good are you using? Not Hitler? Nah, that's too low a hurdle. Not a murderer at all? Plus being charitable and kind? Lying is bad, right? What about "never lied"? Nah, everybody has lied, that's just human nature, so that's too rigorous a standard? Or is it? Is being good the same as being not that bad, being less bad than the average person, being less bad than most? A flock of sheep viewed against a background of lush green grass on a sunlit hillside appear brilliant white. However, cover that same hillside background with fresh fallen snow, and then the sheep appear filthy dirty, not white at all. Which is true? | ||
| Blake |
Squids, Great answer without answering. Hahah.  If God judges you by His moral law, the Ten Commandments, will you be judged guilty or innocent? | ||
| Hootowl |
We've all broken a commandment. Are we all bad people? I think not. | ||
| H0gwash |
I am using my peers and my superego as my standard. While this makes me no better than my puppy who I am sure thinks he is a good puppy as much as I think I am a good person, it allows me to slowly change for the better as new ethical situations emerge. | ||
| 86129squids |
"If God judges you by His moral law, the Ten Commandments, will you be judged guilty or innocent?" Of course I'm guilty. We're all guilty. Sin's no stranger to me. Hoping the sum total of my life allows forgiveness. | ||
| Sami |
 God hates the wicked, see Psalm 11:5. The wicked are those who love violence, who do evil for the sake of evil. I reckon that most people are not wicked, most people don't love violence, most don't do evil for the sake of evil. That doesn't mean that most people don't do evil or don't commit violence, rather they don't do it for the sake of it. My long answer would be: If you don't do evil or commit violence for the sake of it (for the love of it), then you are a ''good person'' for what's worth. However, even ''good persons'' are not without sin, see John 8: 7. | ||
| 86129squids |
Thanks for that pic, Sami. Petting my Good Boy as I type. Actually both of them. | ||
| Sami |
Cheers. How old are they? | ||
| Ourdee |
Not a murderer at all? Dale Carnegie in his book ‘How to Win friends and Influence People’ wrote, "On May 7, 1931, the most sensational manhunt New York City had ever known had come to its climax. After weeks of search, "Two Gun" Crowley - the killer, the gunman who didn't smoke or drink - was at bay, trapped in his sweetheart's apartment on West End Avenue. One hundred and fifty policemen and detectives laid siege to his top-floor hideway. They chopped holes in the roof; they tried to smoke out Crowley, the "cop killer," with teargas. Then they mounted their machine guns on surrounding buildings, and for more than an hour one of New York's fine residential areas reverberated with the crack of pistol fire and the rut-tat-tat of machine guns. Crowley, crouching behind an over-stuffed chair, fired incessantly at the police. Ten thousand excited people watched the battle. Nothing like it ever been seen before on the sidewalks of New York. When Crowley was captured, Police Commissioner E. P. Mulrooney declared that the two-gun desperado was one of the most dangerous criminals ever encountered in the history of New York. "He will kill," said the Commissioner, "at the drop of a feather." But how did "Two Gun" Crowley regard himself? We know, because while the police were firing into his apartment, he wrote a letter addressed "To whom it may concern, " And, as he wrote, the blood flowing from his wounds left a crimson trail on the paper. In this letter Crowley said: "Under my coat is a weary heart, but a kind one - one that would do nobody any harm." A short time before this, Crowley had been having a necking party with his girl friend on a country road out on Long Island. Suddenly a policeman walked up to the car and said: "Let me see your license." Without saying a word, Crowley drew his gun and cut the policeman down with a shower of lead. As the dying officer fell, Crowley leaped out of the car, grabbed the officer's revolver, and fired another bullet into the prostrate body. And that was the killer who said: "Under my coat is a weary heart, but a kind one - one that would do nobody any harm.' Crowley was sentenced to the electric chair. When he arrived at the death house in Sing Sing, did he say, "This is what I get for killing people"? No, he said: "This is what I get for defending myself."" | ||
| Blake |
Jeff (Hoot): Again, good relative to what standard? Our own? Or that of the supreme judge of the world? Test it out for yourself against that perfectly white snow so to speak. How many times do you reckon you've violated the big ten, or heck, just four of them?: How many lies, how many times invoking God in vain, ever stolen anything no matter how small, ever looked at anyone with lust (Jesus said that's committing adultery in your heart), ... That's just four. So you'd be guilty? But you should be forgiven, cause you've tried to reform? If a human judge accepted such a plea from a convicted criminal, would he be serving justice? Or would he be serving injustice, substituting his subjective feelings in place of the law? A good judge would reply that you darn well should reform, but you've still got to pay for your crimes. No? Thing is our Creator did something so that we may legally avoid the penalty for our crimes. You know it? |
