| Author | Message | ||
     Aesquire |
A household member has the Safe Word from Eurotrip on his shield. I've seen the bumper sticker "If you can read this, you're following too close" on an armored butt. Also lots of smiley faces on Spear tips. Hello Kitty armor! How'd you like that be the last thing you see before getting hammered by a pole axe? We don't always take ourselves too seriously. There's nothing like waking up in camp to the Star Wars Imperial March on bagpipes. | ||
| Patches |
Star Wars Theme Bagpipe Cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdhe_6KfHBI | ||
| Blake |
Patches: Please don't post anymore of those nasty anti-Semitic images. I had to remove the one you decided was appropriate. Please don't go there. Thanks, Blake Hoot and others: Thanks for setting Patches straight on the folly of posting such garbage. | ||
| Blake |
Patches: To claim that Jews don't use the Torah or the rest of the Old Testament (the TaNaKh to religious Jews) is a bizarre thing to say. Are you trying to be inflammatory or sensationalistic to shock people, or are you ignorant of the Jewish faith, having been told by others what to believe about it? | ||
| Patches |
Blake,- Is it fair to censorship my post because some on here don't like my beliefs? Your Words,- "No censorship other than keeping discussion within PG-13 family oriented bounds. Not everyone's cup of tea, but it's interesting to me. So what is your world view, and why? Don't be timid. A world view to be valid must be coherent and must correspond to reality. To be meaningfully relavent a world view must address four profound questions: 1) Origin (How did we and the universe at large come to be?) 2) Purpose & Meaning (Why do we exist?) 3) Morality (What is good and evil?) 4) Destiny (How do we and the universe ultimately end up?)" Are you talking about the 'Black Hebrew Israelites'? Those guys are Bizarre, there are plenty of Videos of them on youtube. "(the TaNaKh to religious Jews)" They rely on there own interpretation 'Mans Understanding'(Oral Torah.) not 'Gods Understanding'. "Tanakh is an acronym of the first Hebrew letter of each of the Masoretic Text's three traditional subdivisions: Torah (‘Teaching’, also known as the Five Books of Moses), Nevi'im (’Prophets’) and Ketuvim (’Writings’)—hence TaNaKh. The books of the Tanakh were passed on by each generation and, according to rabbinic tradition, were accompanied by an oral tradition, called the Oral Torah." - If the Tanakh is reliable why is it everchanging? "Translations Further information: Jewish English Bible translations, Septuagint, Targum, Old Testament, and Bible translations The Holy Scriptures According to the Masoretic Text: A New Translation with the aid of Previous Versions & with the Constant Consultation of Jewish Authorities was published in 1917 by the Jewish Publication Society. It was replaced by their Tanakh in 1985 Tanakh, Jewish Publication Society, 1985, ISBN 0-8276-0252-9 Tanach: The Stone Edition, Hebrew with English translation, Mesorah Publications, 1996, ISBN 0-89906-269-5, named after benefactor Irving I. Stone. Tanakh Ram, an ongoing translation to Modern Hebrew (2010–) by Avraham Ahuvya (RAM Publishing House Ltd. and Miskal Ltd.) The Living Torah and The Living Nach, a 1981 translation of the Torah by Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan and a subsequent posthumous translation of the Nevi'im and Ketuvim following the model of the first volume" Hebrew Bible - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_Bible Overview: TaNaK / Old Testament - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALsluAKBZ-c - Before the Peanut Gallery start, the KJV Bible 1611- 1769 is the same doctrinally and unchanging. Modern Bibles change doctrine. King James Version - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version I will NOT Change My Beliefs to Please ANYBODY! !My Lord and Savior is JESUS CHRIST! Not man. You are allowed to Believe what you want, God gave you Freewill to do so. | ||
| Patches |
The Oral Traditions or 'Oral Torah' they speak of is the Talmud. History Main article: Oral Torah The first page of the Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Berachot, folio. The center column contains the Talmud text, beginning with a section of Mishnah. The Gemara begins 14 lines down with the abbreviation; (gimmel-mem) in larger type. Mishnah and Gemara sections alternate throughout the Talmud. The blocks of text on either side are the Rashi and Tosafot commentaries, printed in Rashi script. Other notes and cross references are in the margins. An early printing of the Talmud; with commentary by Rashi Originally, Jewish scholarship was oral and transferred from one generation to the next. Rabbis expounded and debated the Torah (the written Torah expressed in the Hebrew Bible) and discussed the Tanakh without the benefit of written works (other than the Biblical books themselves), though some may have made private notes (megillot setarim), for example, of court decisions. This situation changed drastically, mainly as the result of the destruction of the Jewish commonwealth and the Second Temple in the year 70 and the consequent upheaval of Jewish social and legal norms. As the rabbis were required to face a new reality—mainly Judaism without a Temple (to serve as the center of teaching and study) and Judea, the Roman province, without at least partial autonomy—there was a flurry of legal discourse and the old system of oral scholarship could not be maintained. It is during this period that rabbinic discourse began to be recorded in writing. The oldest full manuscript of the Talmud, known as the Munich Talmud (Codex Hebraicus 95), dates from 1342 and is available online." Talmud - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud | ||
| H0gwash |
I think a jury of our peers would consider the image of older men leering over a frightened young girl inappropriate for family viewing, and not PG-13. The rest of your arguments remain on this board. | ||
| Patches |
Why is Isaiah, chapter 53 the “forbidden chapter” in the TaNaKh? | ||
| Patches |
Is it OK to trash the Name of Jesus Christ the Word of God? | ||
| Patches |
Blake,- I guess it's OK to censor my post, but not memes depicting Joe Biden terrorizing a young girl (All your DEMOCRAT terrorist attacks rolled into one thread... Posted on Friday, January 17, 2020 - 09:14 pm: ). This seems to be a double standard, doesn't it? | ||
| H0gwash |
Only to you, therefore it is your problem. | ||
| Aesquire |
First, politicians choose to live a life of partisan public fame. That makes Joe & Barry & Donald open to hostile mockery. It could be slanderous bile pointed at a private citizen, and earn me deserved rebuke. But factually correct mockery aimed at Joe or Donald IS HOW THE. D PARTY HAS CHOSEN TO ACT. We are thus entitled to respond in kind. Lies about anyone are wrong. Party be damned. Was the post you note offensive? Yes. Factually untrue? Only partly, there have been zero photos of Vice Biden standing sans pants in front of a terrified little girl. He has spoken of odd interactions with children ( that can be innocent, or not ) and has a PUBLIC habit of inappropriate touching of girls and young women... That also can be explained as innocent behavior, except he keeps doing it after being told it is creepy. Then there's the scandal that fellow Party members and rich friends have had multiple accusations of pedophilia. Some credible, some probably conspiracy theory partisan attacks. This it's not an outright Lie like, say, Obama in the same meme. Personally I agree it's in very bad taste. And would understand completely if you condemned it. But instead you use it as an excuse. Bad morals. As to your objectionable post. I may safely complain that, say, the Catholic Church has a pedophile protection problem. ( true fact ) And an analysis of why. ( opinion ) and even that the whole organization is corrupt. ( untrue, and others may condemn & argue ) But I cannot say all Catholics are corrupt pedophiles. That's an outright lie. It's enticement to violence, in multiple ways. And it's actual hate speech. Happy to argue/agree that modern SJW censorship brand name Hate Speech can be & often is simply talk some dislike & want to silence. But "All Catholics are corrupt pedophiles" is real hate. Millions have been murdered in the 20th century alone using such rhetoric. And just to be crystal fracking clear. The above in quotes is not my opinion. Any one saying it is has zero excuse of misinterpretation, and shall be properly rebuked and insulted. | ||
| Aesquire |
I should add the above is my opinion, not anyone else's. Not site policy. Blake's opinion is his own, and he can respond as he chooses. His circus, his monkeys.  | ||
| Hootowl |
It’s a good thing I don’t run this place. | ||
| Hootowl |
The rules for this thread are: A world view to be valid must be coherent and must correspond to reality. To be meaningfully relevant a world view must address four profound questions: 1) Origin (How did we and the universe at large come to be?) 2) Purpose & Meaning (Why do we exist?) 3) Morality (What is good and evil?) 4) Destiny (How do we and the universe ultimately end up?) Antisemitism is outside those boundaries. The promise not to censor is based on the premise of thoughtful, respectful discussion. As I said, it’s a good thing I don’t run this place. | ||
| Patches |
gwash,- I am 'anti-Judaism' NOT 'Antichrist' and I will not change for you or anybody else. 1 John 2:18 King James Version (KJV) 18. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 1 John 2:22 King James Version (KJV) 22. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1 John 4:3 King James Version (KJV) 1. Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3. And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 2 John 1: 7 King James Version (KJV) 7. For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. --- Denying Jesus is the Christ will one day be your problem. Luke 16:19-31 King James Version (KJV) 19. There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20. And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21. And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23. And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28. For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead | ||
| Patches |
Hootowl,- Is it OK to trash the Name of Jesus Christ the Word of God? --- If Jewish Traditions was God's plan, what was Jesus the Christ trying to save them from? Why did Saul of Tarsus change his name to Paul and convert to Christianity and start teaching the gospel of Christ? | ||
| Patches |
"Pat, Why don't you take a hint and stop posting all the pedophilia crap." Because it is taught as doctrine in the jewish holy book known as the talmud. It destroys innocent lives, families and Gods Creation. The jewish holy book known as the talmud blasphemes the name of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. | ||
| Hootowl |
I told myself I wouldn’t engage. Damnit. “Is it OK to trash the Name of Jesus Christ the Word of God?” Straw man. No one has. You’re the only one posting defamatory content. And passages from the bible that have absolutely no relevance to anything being discussed. It makes you come off as a fraud. A huckster. Or maybe a little touched. Jesus came to save the world, not just the Jews. Jews are flawed because they are people, not because they are Jews. You profess to have a deep understanding of God, but your words put the lie to that assertion. I hope God touches your heart and allows you to release the anger you’re carrying. | ||
| Aesquire |
Theoretical question. Theological in part. Here's a definition from wicca.com. Wicca is a recognized religion, while Witchcraft itself is not considered a religion. Thus, Wicca might best be described as a modern religion, based on ancient Witchcraft traditions. I'm not arguing the definition. It's theirs. Wicca does rituals, like other religions. Church services. Witchcraft, OTOH, is a magic/mind over matter thing, wizardry? I'm not a believer that it's other than self delusion, scams, wishful thinking, etc. You can practice the matriarcal nature loving faith of Wicca & not practice witchcraft. Further, the meditation aspects of the rituals, are the same as Christian meditation mazes & rosary rituals, from a self hypnosis/mental exercise technique view. ( naturally, they are probably copied from medieval church practice ) The ( I think imaginary ) practice of witchcraft, sorcery, wizardry, is condemned in the bible. My opinion is that's more anti scam than fear of magic spells. The evil that even imagined power & superiority will bring. I consider the "3 fold way" concept to be fairly valid in a philosophical, moral sense, albeit often stated as either a warning against evil intent ( in magic and life ) Or a "karma" thing, which is a common religious theme. ( and perhaps worthy of a discussion ) So.... The question is, sorcery bad, and meditation good? My "trigger" here is a 3 day car ride FL-NY, with a fellow martial artist, talking meditation, Re: sports & martial performance. Meditation, unlike sorcery, seeks to improve awareness and control of the individual mind-body interface. I don't light candles with my mind or levitate/move objects, ( never seen it done either ) but do try and improve reaction time or breathing, etc. So Discipline, but not sorcery? | ||
| 86129squids |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma I used to love talking religion and politics. Now, only religion. God, she/he/it will be my judge. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://6dollarshirts.com/political-tees/polytheis m The message is... Political? I find the categorization more interesting than the joke. | ||
| H0gwash |
I didn't ask you to change, I only answered your question. | ||
| Patches |
When you censor my post and not someone else, isn't this a way of saying I need to change what I think? It was posted on this Jesus taught judisam. I only showed that was wrong and posted what the differences were. For that posting I was called an anti-semite. Therefor only my post were censored and removed. The drawing of the jews terrorizing the young girl is disturbing YES' but is still true that it is taught from the talmud(jewish holy book). The talmud also teaches Jesus is the bastard son of a roman soldier named pantera and a prostitute named Mary. The talmud also teaches Jesus is in Hell Fire burning in his own excrement. This is why I HATE the talmud(jewish traditions). Jesus IS Christ LORD My Savior, ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. I will Never Change My view of God, Jesus and The Word. | ||
| H0gwash |
I didn't censor you, although I agree with it. | ||
| Patches |
"I didn't censor you, although I agree with it." good,- have a cookie. | ||
| Hootowl |
More hateful propaganda. First, it’s Pandera. Pantera is a metal band. Second, when the Talmud mentions Yeshua, it is not referring to Jesus. That it does is just another antisemitic fairy tale concocted by idiots. Why do you believe this tripe? No serious biblical scholars believe the reference is to Jesus, and have described in detail their evidence to support that conclusion. It takes a special kind of person to repost something that had already been removed by the owner of the site for violating the rules of the board. You’ve successfully posted your philosophy, one I am in complete agreement with, regarding Jesus being the only begotten Son of God. If your life’s other philosophy is antisemitism based on demonstrable falsehoods, I think you need to take it elsewhere. I’m sure there are plenty of antisemitic web sites you can spew this crap on. Heck, you probably already have them bookmarked. | ||
| Patches |
Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera (c. 22 BC – AD 40) was a Roman soldier whose tombstone was found in Bingerbrück, Germany, in 1859. A historical connection from this soldier to Jesus has long been hypothesized by numerous scholars, based on the claim of the ancient Greek philosopher Celsus, who, according to Christian writer Origen in his Contra Celsum ("Against Celsus") (Greek Kata Kelsou; Latin Contra Celsum), was the author of a work entitled The True Word (Greek Logos ). Celsus' work was lost, but in Origen's account of it Jesus was depicted as the result of an affair between his mother Mary and a Roman soldier. He said she was "convicted of adultery and had a child by a certain soldier named Pantera". Tiberius Pantera could have been serving in the region at the time of Jesus's conception.Both the ancient Talmud and medieval Jewish writings and sayings reinforced this notion, referring "Yeshu ben Pantera", which translates to "Jesus, son of Pantera". The hypothesis is considered unlikely by mainstream scholars given that there is little other evidence to support the Pantera paternity outside of the Greek and Jewish texts. Historically, the name Pantera is not unusual and was in use among Roman soldiers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberius_Julius_Abde s_Pantera -- Tzoah Rotachat: The fate of Jesus in the Talmud. Boiling in excrement?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuzUOWQc2NI | ||
| Ebutch |
(patches go Ride Your huffy)  |
